2 out of 5 California millenials live at home

Those are great professions, too - and can be lucrative.

But the basic fact is that college grads make $1 million more than non-college grads - just w/ a basic degree. At minimum, they pay for tuition several times over w/ tax revenue, without even counting money pumped back into the economy & other intangibles.

Then let their parents make the investment if it is such a good one.
 
It isn't the responsibility of the taxpayers to fund higher education for a kid whose own parents won't do it regardless of what he/she studies.

The point was middle class kids don't need "free college". As far as keeping community and state college cheap for poor kids that's a good idea. A kid shouldn't be excluded from college because his parents don't have money.

Now we can argue the private market can provide loans/grants etc for those type kids and that's fine.

But just saying sorry kid is a great way to create a caste system
 
The point was middle class kids don't need "free college". As far as keeping community and state college cheap for poor kids that's a good idea. A kid shouldn't be excluded from college because his parents don't have money.

Now we can argue the private market can provide loans/grants etc for those type kids and that's fine.

But just saying sorry kid is a great way to create a caste system

If you want to keep education "cheap" get the gobblement out.

Unfortunately too many people have been seduced
 
The point was middle class kids don't need "free college". As far as keeping community and state college cheap for poor kids that's a good idea. A kid shouldn't be excluded from college because his parents don't have money.

Now we can argue the private market can provide loans/grants etc for those type kids and that's fine.

But just saying sorry kid is a great way to create a caste system

I fully agree with the Sociology degree vs. a trade mindset. What I don't agree with is one group being forced to do for someone else's kids what their own parents won't do for them.

There is a technical college in the area where I live. The State has an "Education Lottery" that helps offset the costs to those schools. When the school began, it was considered a "trade school", however, it has evolved into much more than that today. The tuition/fees pricing has three tiers. In county, out of county, and out of state. For someone living in the county, which is cheaper because property taxes also offset the cost and lottery money is available, a two-year degree (64 semester hours) can be earned for a TOTAL of $6800 plus books. Not a high price for personal investment or investment in a child when the return can be great.

Just saying taxpayer fund it for someone else's kid is a great way to create someone with an entitlement mentality that thinks anything they want should be provided by someone else.
 
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