Russiagate Shrinks to Flynngate

Thing1 said:
I don't seem to have noticed yet, but i will: the buck stops virtually anywhere but Obama's desk. He's incapable of admitting he is wrong, or accepting blame for anything. If I weren't so blinded by devotion, that would be pretty easy for me to spot.
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FTFY
 
I Love America said:
FTFY
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Too bad that Obama said quite a few times that the buck stopped w/ him, and took personal responsibility for everything from intelligence failures to Benghazi.

Trump would never come close to that. Trump is incredibly insecure - he'll only take credit for successes (even for successes he had nothing to do with). He'll never take blame or accountability for anything.
 
Clingy Thingy said:
Too bad that Obama said quite a few times that the buck stopped w/ him, and took personal responsibility for everything from intelligence failures to Benghazi.

Trump would never come close to that. Trump is incredibly insecure - he'll only take credit for successes (even for successes he had nothing to do with). He'll never take blame or accountability for anything.
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Bullshit. Obama never took responsibility. Hell for his entire presidency he lived off of a steady diet of blame Bush and you sucked it all up
 
Thing1 said:
Too bad that Obama said quite a few times that the buck stopped w/ him, and took personal responsibility for everything from intelligence failures to Benghazi.

Trump would never come close to that. Trump is incredibly insecure - he'll only take credit for successes (even for successes he had nothing to do with). He'll never take blame or accountability for anything.
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I've seen whopper hack lies, but this one takes the cake.
 
GazzaQueen said:
Lefties are put to shame because they defend their party criminals with zeal. They can't understand that Reps don't care who it is, if they break the law they must be punished.
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:rofl2: You elected a criminal and you're calling out lefties? Short memory re: trump University.
 
Yaya said:
You dishonest tool. Russiagate is about Trump's supposed COLLUSION with Russia.

You are getting close to Thingy in terms of dishonesty.
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I'm pretty sure, though not 100%, that the use of the word "collusion" began with trump and his surrogates.
 
Yaya said:
Didn't you make the claim?
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I already said I'm not 100% sure but in reading trump's comments and those of his supporters, the word collusion comes up a lot. Comey said "meddling", CNN said "coordinating", Hillary said "meddling, and act of aggression", Clapper said "at this time not to my knowledge", Yates didn't say there was collusion...

If you want to see where the word "collusion" is used regularly go to @realDonaldTrump on Twitter.
 
christiefan915 said:
I already said I'm not 100% sure but in reading trump's comments and those of his supporters, the word collusion comes up a lot. Comey said "meddling", CNN said "coordinating", Hillary said "meddling, and act of aggression", Clapper said "at this time not to my knowledge", Yates didn't say there was collusion...

If you want to see where the word "collusion" is used regularly go to @realDonaldTrump on Twitter.
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Okay, you're not 100% sure, but yet, you want me to cite something, to counter your, "not 100% sure" claim.

Do you think that is fair? Do you think that is how debates, claims, or discussions work? Do you think it fair that I make a claim I'm not totally positive on, and then ask you to back it up?
 
Jarod said:
SO desperate, last week they said Rumpgate was dying, not they are trying desperately to limit it to just Flynn.

It came out that Obama warned Rump.
It came out that Yates told Rump Flynn was compromised.
It came out that despite all this Flynn passed the vetting process.

The question for Rump is what happened during those 18 days!
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Obviously, Flynn was discussed and questioned and deemed to be unacceptable .... so he was fired....

whats the big deal ?.....18 days, 12 days, 8 days?....who gives a shit how long it took....

really, is that all you've got....how many days it took to fire him ?
 
It would seem lefties like Clingy Thingy, GayRod and KKKhristiefan are trying to split the baby. They want to give the illusion that Trump did something nefarious while giving themselves an out when it invariably yields nothing.
 
christiefan915 said:
I'm pretty sure, though not 100%, that the use of the word "collusion" began with trump and his surrogates.
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It began with the Democrats using it as a political club to go after Trump.
Manchin, Feinstein, Schiff have all commented within the last week "there is no evidence as of now" of collusion.
That's the political "gotcha" they want.

If the political focus wasn't on collusion-and simply Russian meddling -nobody would care except the Russiaphobes-
or Clinton searching for excuses for her loss.
 
Yaya said:
Okay, you're not 100% sure, but yet, you want me to cite something, to counter your, "not 100% sure" claim.

Do you think that is fair? Do you think that is how debates, claims, or discussions work? Do you think it fair that I make a claim I'm not totally positive on, and then ask you to back it up?
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We both said the same thing from opposing viewpoints. I said I was pretty sure it came from cons, you said you were pretty sure it didn't. I gave some examples of how lefties used other words than "collusion." Mostly I read the word from trump, Spicer and the WH, denying that it occurred. IMO it's a defense mechanism.
 
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