Is obama interfering in the election of France?

PostmodernProphet said:
lol.....of course, you've never heard them have you......must have been on that same YouTube video of Hillary's Benghazi excuses that you only watch with the sound turned off.......
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I heard Clapper say he had no such information “at the time,” meaning before he left office in January.

Who else?
 
christiefan915 said:
What is your point? The Russia investigation is still ongoing. It ain't over until they close it with a report of the findings.

Are you saying that what trump did and what Obama did is an apples-to-apples comparison?

trump supporters should be horrified at him for congratulating Erdogan on his victory, saying it would be an "honor" to meet with Kim Jong Un, and saying that murderous thug Duterte is handling the drug problem "the right way." I recall the right-wing firestorm when Obama stated he'd be willing to talk with Iran without pre-conditions. Now that trump is in office, suddenly talking to dictators is realpolitik.
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it sure beats interventionism,like Iraq and Libya!
Even talking to Iran,and a treaty ( whatever that thing was) with Iran is fine.
The devil was in the details.

Vast amounts of frozen money -much of it cash to fund it's regional Qods force was the problem.
So as the fact the treaty really didn't do much except delay nukes, and in return Iran gets to run wild while Obama was shredding our Egyptian and SA relationships was the problem
 
christiefan915 said:
Admittedly, Sarah Palin's shrillness always made me want to run away screaming.
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That's the difference between you and me. Sarah does the same to me as does hrc. Somehow hrc's hyper-obnoxiousness doesn't seem to phase you.
christiefan915 said:
Btw, since you said you're a liberal what is it about Hillary's positions that you hate?
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War mongering is the first thing that pops up. Other than that I think it's hard to pin down her positions. They change depending on the latest polls.
But I'd say her 'position' last Oct. was 1. I'm not Donald Trump and 2. I will continue Obamaism political correctness.
I agree with the former and disagree with the latter.
 
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anatta said:
it sure beats interventionism,like Iraq and Libya!
Even talking to Iran,and a treaty ( whatever that thing was) with Iran is fine.
The devil was in the details.

Vast amounts of frozen money -much of it cash to fund it's regional Qods force was the problem.
So as the fact the treaty really didn't do much except delay nukes, and in return Iran gets to run wild while Obama was shredding our Egyptian and SA relationships was the problem
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The frozen money was their money that we were holding for over 30 years.
 
aloysious said:
That's the difference between you and me. Sarah does the same to me as does hrc. Somehow hrc's hyper-obnoxiousness doesn't seem to phase you. War mongering is the first thing that pops up. Other than that I think it's hard to pin down her positions. They change depending on the latest polls.
But I'd say her 'position' last Oct. was 1. I'm not Donald Trump and 2. I will continue Obamaism political correctness.
I agree with the former and disagree with the latter.
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you fool no one putin cock holster
 
aloysious said:
That's the difference between you and me. Sarah does the same to me as does hrc. Somehow hrc's hyper-obnoxiousness doesn't seem to phase you. War mongering is the first thing that pops up. Other than that I think it's hard to pin down her positions. They change depending on the latest polls.
But I'd say her 'position' last Oct. was 1. I'm not Donald Trump and 2. I will continue Obamaism political correctness.
I agree with the former and disagree with the latter.
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I can't believe you hate Hillary because of her supposed war-mongering and what you claim are her hard-to-pin-down positions.

I originally didn't support her in the primary because I considered her a war hawk who might go to war, but she's not a saber-rattler. trump is the one who keeps pushing the envelope, as with NK, and if he goads them into using nukes against us, he'll try to blame them completely and absolve himself completely. Because that's how he runs his life and his businesses, never accepting responsibility for his own errors.

Maybe you can point out a trump position where he's remained steadfast. He's flip-flopped so many times on every single issue it would take a computer program to keep it all straight.

As I said before, you consider Hillary hyper-obnoxious because you don't like her. I consider trump's whiny sing-song threats and bullying using a sixth-grade vocabulary to surpass Hillary rhetoric any day of the week. And his voice quality just adds to the reasons why I despise him.
 
he is a right wing shill


I was trying to warn the the dems about these fake left posters who at election time trash whatever candidate emerges on the left


then it turned out they are paid by russia
 
evince said:
he is a right wing shill


I was trying to warn the the dems about these fake left posters who at election time trash whatever candidate emerges on the left


then it turned out they are paid by russia
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Nonsense, you would have won handily with Bernmaster Sandy.
 
christiefan915 said:
Btw, since you said you're a liberal what is it about Hillary's positions that you hate?
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christiefan915 said:
I can't believe you hate Hillary because of her supposed war-mongering and what you claim are her hard-to-pin-down positions.
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Good for you because I don't hate her for her hawkishness. I hate the policy, no different than McCain.
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christiefan915 said:
Maybe you can point out a trump position where he's remained steadfast.
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His opposition to the overreach of the EPA is the most important one for me. The EPA unilaterally and illegally claimed jurisdiction of my paid for property under its WOTUS rule. I also savor the fact that someone as outlandish as Trump squashing the hillary threat makes it sting to not only hrc but to the alt left because of their behavior since the election.
christiefan915 said:
He's flip-flopped so many times on every single issue it would take a computer program to keep it all straight.
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I know that. He's all over the place. That's why I didn't vote for him.
christiefan915 said:
As I said before, you consider Hillary hyper-obnoxious because you don't like her.
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You got it backwards. I don't like hrc because she's hyper-obnoxious. But that's just one of many reasons. Google "I hate Hillary" and see what you get. I agree with every single reason given on every article and/or interview by every person who hates her. And those folks come from the entire political spectrum.
christiefan915 said:
I consider trump's whiny sing-song threats and bullying using a sixth-grade vocabulary to surpass Hillary rhetoric any day of the week.
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I can appreciate that. I think most of his tweet rants are immature.
christiefan915 said:
And his voice quality just adds to the reasons why I despise him.
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I'm usually surprised at how he can be quite charming and funny, e.g. , his speech on the U.S.S. Intrepid.
Despite Earlier Spat, Smooth Sailing Aboard Intrepid for Trump and Turnbull https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/04/world/australia/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-meeting.html?_r=0
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Compare his campaign rallies and hrc's. Enthusiasm in abundance vs. no enthusiasm.
 
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