TrumpCare 2.0, failed!

Jarod said:
But Rump keeps promising the people to keep the Pre-Existing condition prohibition. Don't you agree that puts the Republicans in Congress into an impossible position, very similar to what Obama did??
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No I don't agree. You are getting hung up on one single thing as if that is the only thing keeping McCuntell and Ryan from doing their jobs
 
I Love America said:
The GOP has been duped into accepting a flawed premise.

Preexisting conditions negates insurance

It is like getting in a car accident and then demanding an insurance company allow you to buy car insurance.

Answer this question

Should someone who has three moving violations and two car accidents in the last two years pay the same auto insurance premiums as someone who has zero moving violations and no accidents over that same time frame?
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That's how the NHS works, nobody is turned away.

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I Love America said:
Irrelevant.

If McCuntell and Ryan just put a bill in front of Trump repealing all of Obamacare in its entirety Trump would be forced to sign it.

I know you have an irrational hatred of Trump and will never give him the benefit of the doubt. So I have no illusions of changing your mind. All I will say is that over the last year my political prognostication has been far more accurate than yours. Just sayin

Maybe I should take over your blog
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So now the gop needs to start forcing him to sign stuff??? :rofl2:

Did it not occur to you that there may be some good reasons, political & practical as to why they don't just dump ObamaCare as the rumpster promised??
 
Milagro said:
That's how the NHS works, nobody is turned away.

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This guy should be a lesson for stupid redneck USA conservatives. This guy is moderate and a pro big oil conservative and he lives with state healthcare and likes it. That is where it is guaranteed stupid redneck ignorant United States conservatives will be in 30 years.

Being a conservative means always having to say you're sorry a generation later.
 
Micawber said:
This guy should be a lesson for stupid redneck USA conservatives. This guy is moderate and a pro big oil conservative and he lives with state healthcare and likes it. That is where it is guaranteed stupid redneck ignorant United States conservatives will be in 30 years.

Being a conservative means always having to say you're sorry a generation later.
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LOL
 
TheDonald said:
Trump was approved by the American people, so get used to it kiddy
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Nope. He was elected by 77,000 voters in three states that gave him the EC win. 11,000,000 more people voted for somebody else. His approval is the worst of any incoming President. With the same party dominating all three branches, the only thing he can muster are Executive Orders.

Pathetic
 
I Love America said:
Actually it is you who are obfuscating or you didn't understand what I was trying to say. We were talking about preexisting conditions.

Let me break it down for you.

Here are two world examples of purchasers of insurance

1) 65 year old male with a history of diabetes, hypertension and hypercholesterolemia. He has sustained one myocardial infarction for which he received a stent and 2B3A as primary treatment. He takes a statin, and ACE inhibitor, metformin and aspirin

2) 35 year old male with no medical history. Appendectomy when was 21.

Now which one of these patients is a higher risk from a medical standpoint?

That is the argument I was making using car insurance and why pre-existing conditions and caps is a perversion of economics. That Trump supports it matters little to me. He is wrong for pushing it, although I understand the politics as he is trying to appeal to ignorant people like you

As for your last statement, he government is under no obligation to pay your healthcare
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The government is absolutely under no obligation to pay for anyone's healthcare, but should they?

Here is the fact, at this time the government does pay for the healthcare of the un and under insured. In fact they pay much more for it than if the government had simply bought them healthcare in the first place. Americans are not going to allow people to die of preventable medical issues. Its simply something our culture does not allow. But paying for it the way we did before Obamacare is much more expensive than paying for it once more people are able to be insured. Yes insurance is more expensive on the front end, but the fact remains, MANY MANY more Americans are now insured, and when those bills are high, its not the government paying for it, its the shared pool of insured people. Ultimately it is cheaper on the collective.
 
domer76 said:
Nope. He was elected by 77,000 voters in three states that gave him the EC win. 11,000,000 more people voted for somebody else. His approval is the worst of any incoming President. With the same party dominating all three branches, the only thing he can muster are Executive Orders.

Pathetic
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And yet, Hillary is still the loser.

:evilnod:
 
Bill said:
So now the gop needs to start forcing him to sign stuff??? :rofl2:

Did it not occur to you that there may be some good reasons, political & practical as to why they don't just dump ObamaCare as the rumpster promised??
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all you need to know, if you really care, is that Obamacare can NOT be payed for.
What part of that do you not understand.

Obama put us an additional 9 trillion in debt, woul dyou like to see that doubled again?

Well Trump and the adults in the room are trying to save Democrats from their own foolishness, they might want to take him up on it.
 
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