U.S. Won’t Spray Opium in Afghanistan Because Crops ‘Might Be Too Close to a Mosque’

Bill

Malarkeyville
Will the new regimes war on drugs do anything about it??



WASHINGTON D.C. — The United States had the ability to use aerial spraying to destroy the opium crops in Afghanistan used by the Taliban to fund their terrorist activities after 9/11 but refused to do so out of concern that the plants “might be too close to a mosque,” declared Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) during a congressional hearing.
Rep. Rohrabacher said that U.S. government has been able to aerial spray and eradicate the opium crops in Afghanistan used to make the deadly heroin drug for at least 20 years but has declined to employ that capability.


During an April 27 hearing on Afghanistan held by the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Terrorism, the Republican congressman said in reference to the lucrative opium business:

Let me note for the record, Mr. Chairman, we have had that [spraying] capability for at least 20 years and have not touch it, have not done it. We didn’t do it after 9/11. We had that capability, and we didn’t do it. After 9/11 there were store houses of opium where the Taliban had stored billions of dollars of opium and heroin in special locations in Afghanistan. And I will just go on the record for the first time on this — I notified our government at the very highest level exactly where those were, and they needed to be bombed because the Taliban needed to be denied that money and our government never did that. Our government never did it. They always, The excuse was always “Oh we think they might be too close to a mosque.”

Despite the estimated $8.5 billion in American taxpayer funds that the United States has already invested on anti-narcotics measures in Afghanistan since the war started in October 2001, the country remains the world’s top producer of opium and its heroin derivative.


According to the U.S. military, the Taliban, considered the strongest terrorist group in Afghanistan, generates as much as 60 percent of its funding from the illicit opium trade.

Currently, the Taliban controls more territory than during any time since the group was removed from power by the U.S. military in late 2001.

Rep. Rohrabacher noted:

So the Taliban gets a fair amount of money [from the opium trade] and of course, the Afghan government who we put into place — corrupt officials in that group including the family of [former Afghan president] Mr. [Hamid] Karzai, maybe. We’re talking about billions of dollars of wealth. Well, with billions of dollars going like that, coming out like that, I can imagine that would buy a lot of AK-47 bullets, and people wonder where people get the money.

Are any of you aware that we now have the ability to spray an area and within a short period of time, in a way that will not hurt other crops, that would eliminate the poppy production in Afghanistan and basically would not be permitted to grow in that area again for 10 years?

Using the latest United Nations data available, Breitbart News has determined that estimated opium production and the cultivation area in Afghanistan have skyrocketed more than 25-fold over the course of the ongoing war in the country, to 4,800 metric tons and 201,000 hectares (ha), respectively.

In 2016, the latest year for which data is available, the Afghan territory under cultivation was equivalent to an area more than 11 times the size of Washington, D.C.

Some experts, like Ioannis Koskinas from the New America think-tank, suggest the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) branch in Afghanistan may be involved in the opium trade.

Nevertheless, Dr. Vanda Felbab-Brown from the Brookings Institution wrote in her written testimony prepared for the House panel hearing, “The Taliban has also sponsored opium poppy cultivation in Afghanistan and the jobs and income it provides for ordinary Afghans, thus generating political capital.”

“IS [Islamic State] in Afghanistan, on the other hand, has prohibited opium poppy cultivation both on grounds of ideological purity the strategic goal of ensuring that the only employment available to local men is as IS foot soldiers,” she also wrote

Asked by Rep. Rohrabacher if Islamic extremist groups in Afghanistan were using opium to fund their activities, Dr. Felbab-Brown responded that other than the Taliban, “There is no evidence that the money has been going to other terrorist groups.”

However, Dr. Seth Jones of the RAND Corporation who also testified interrupted her, saying, “But the Taliban, which does have relations with other groups, the Taliban does get a fair amount of money.”

The U.S. military has said the Afghanistan-Pakistan region is home to the largest concentration of jihadist groups in the world.
 
The two hate groups going after each other is good but the USA allowing the locals to grow seems pretty stupid.. Especially w/ a growing opiate problem @ home...

What should trumpf do about it??
I don't think they hate each other as much as they are rivals -although it does seem some of the disgruntled Taliban wind up with ISIS.
I think it's kinna like Syria where "the enemy of my enemy..." produces at least temporary battlefield alliances.
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What to do about AfPak?
we can stay there and let it bleed by propping up the ANF- a failure at nation-building,
but bleeding out terrorists ( a bleeding type of counter-terrorism) "better there then here" thing
Or
We can call it what it is - a failure - and leave the hellhole to the interested parties.
 
I didn't say they hate each other, I said they are hate groups... Many of the daesh are taliband rejects...

Since we have made no progress in our longest war, I would think leaving it up to the folks living there is the best of the bad options...

Maybe bush can go & help out, do some mountain scape paintings & fix them...
 
^ I misread.

Ya or just keep a steady stalemate going, bleeding for nothing really except full Taliban takeover
 
Obama had eight years to implement spraying, Trump should do it without hesitation.
downsides to that too.
Poppy is a cash crop, and while it finances the Taliban, it also keeps the country from going completely broke too.
 
downsides to that too.
Poppy is a cash crop, and while it finances the Taliban, it also keeps the country from going completely broke too.
It would be far cheaper to just destroy the crops and pay the farmers compensation.

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It would be far cheaper to just destroy the crops and pay the farmers compensation.
I'm sure you are correct on that -good point.
..the entire war has been a drain on money and manpower with little to show for it.

Nation building a stable Afghanistan is un-doable
 
I'm sure you are correct on that -good point.
..the entire war has been a drain on money and manpower with little to show for it.

Nation building a stable Afghanistan is un-doable
Did you know that growing heroin is a recent phenomenon in Afghanistan largely brought about by US hydrologists attempting to build dams and raising the water table so much in the process that it poisoned the soil with salt. Heroin loves both alkaline and saline soils so it replaced wheat which grew very poorly with tiny yields. This blog by Adam Curtis documents it in some detail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/302443a3-c143-3a71-8046-10ba64464fe6



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Did you know that growing heroin is a recent phenomenon in Afghanistan largely brought about by US hydrologists attempting to build dams and raising the water table so much that it poisoned the soil with salt. Heroin loves both alkaline and saline soils so it replaced wheat which grew very poorly with tiny yields. This blog by Adam Curtis documents it in some detail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/302443a3-c143-3a71-8046-10ba64464fe6

No I didn't; although I do recall something about making Afghanistan into a western styled paradise back during the cold war ( the details elude my memory)--from the link:

but almost immediately things started to go wrong. In 1949 the first, small diversion dam was built. But it raised the level of the water table in the whole area. And that brought salt to the surface.

The American engineers realised this meant that the whole project probably wouldn't work. But at that very moment President Truman made a speech promising to give aid to poor countries. It was the start of the Cold War and Truman was going to use development projects and American money to stop countries from becoming communist.

The Americans liked dams. They were a way of challenging the communists because they would create more fertile land - so people could be better off without having to redistribute land through a revolution. In 1952 the Helmand Valley Authority was set up. It was modelled on the Tennessee Valley Authority - the TVA - created by Roosevelt in the 1930s.

Faced with this the engineers' doubts about the project were buried and forgotten. Massive loans poured in from America and two giant dams were built plus 300 miles of big canals.

But more problems emerged. Everything became waterlogged which led to weeds. Salt kept on suddenly appearing. And the reservoirs and the canals made the water cooler which meant that there couldn't be any vineyards and orchards any longer. In future they could only grow grain.
Of course we had no real business in Afghanistan but the Cold War 1,0 distorted everything into a zero sum game between the US/west and the USSR.

Sidebar:
i did get some either Pakistani or Afghan hashish back in the 70's.
it was opiated with white stripes, and very shiny and coal black and very soft/malleable.
This was back when weed in the USA was all Mexican scrub- so it was a fine pleasure to smoke imported hashish
 
No I didn't; although I do recall something about making Afghanistan into a western styled paradise back during the cold war ( the details elude my memory)--from the link:

Of course we had no real business in Afghanistan but the Cold War 1,0 distorted everything into a zero sum game between the US/west and the USSR.

Sidebar:
i did get some either Pakistani or Afghan hashish back in the 70's.
it was opiated with white stripes, and very shiny and coal black and very soft/malleable.
This was back when weed in the USA was all Mexican scrub- so it was a fine pleasure to smoke imported hashish
Back in the day, there used to be a lot of Afghan Black about in the UK, it came in blocks and was almost pure resin. Incredible stuff, obviously a thing of the past now.

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Back in the day, there used to be a lot of Afghan Black about in the UK, it came in blocks and was almost pure resin. Incredible stuff, obviously a thing of the past now.

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an older friend of a friend body taped it and brought it back.
Midnight Express (movie) sort of thing but was successful-and Afghan not Turkey.
 
^ I misread.

Ya or just keep a steady stalemate going, bleeding for nothing really except full Taliban takeover

I still believe that @ some point the Neo Talliband will take over, w/ the full blessing of the USA...

They will be re-branded but they will be the same players, or their children........
 
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