Erin Moran, of Happy Days, dies from opiate overdose

Thing1 said:
These are 2 separate concepts. Most value individual liberty at least on some basic level. But we can still feel sad when people make bad choices, with tragic results.

Of course, addicts and substance abusers are responsible for their own actions. But we can still mourn for them when they lose those battles.
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Those concepts are directly related. If someone makes a bad choice and tells others to butt out of it because it's his/her body, when that choice produces such a result, why should someone told to butt out be expected do anything but butt out of that?

If you choose to do action (fill in the blank) and tell me to butt out when you're doing it, don't expect me to feel sorry for you when the results are bad. I'm not saying someone deserves it but sometimes people get what they ask for. There is a difference.
 
Milagro said:
Well we all know that you are a heartless bastard without an ounce of decency.

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Come on, that's weak sauce. The point was a good one. She chose to use opiates. Blame the doctor who prescribed them unless she got them illegally.

People sometimes make bad choices in life despite knowing the dangers. Why is it so taboo to accept this?
 
CFM said:
Those concepts are directly related. If someone makes a bad choice and tells others to butt out of it because it's his/her body, when that choice produces such a result, why should someone told to butt out be expected do anything but butt out of that?
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Well it's called compassion, an emotion that is entirely alien to somebody like you.

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tinfoil said:
Come on, that's weak sauce. The point was a good one. She chose to use opiates. Blame the doctor who prescribed them unless she got them illegally.

People sometimes make bad choices in life despite knowing the dangers. Why is it so taboo to accept this?
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Because he has a track record and he never fails to prove that he's totally without any compassion or sympathy. I do blame the doctors they seem to just shell out opiates over there, the bastards ought to be struck off.

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tinfoil said:
Come on, that's weak sauce. The point was a good one. She chose to use opiates. Blame the doctor who prescribed them unless she got them illegally.

People sometimes make bad choices in life despite knowing the dangers. Why is it so taboo to accept this?
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That's all I was saying. Milagro is the kind that thinks people should be able to make whatever choice they want, tells others to butt out AND expect people to feel sorry for them when something like this happens.
 
Milagro said:
Well it's called compassion, an emotion that is entirely alien to somebody like you.

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It's called butting out just like the person making the choice expects others to do when they make the choice.
 
Milagro said:
Because he has a track record and he never fails to prove that he's totally without any compassion or sympathy. I do blame the doctors they seem to just shell out opiates over there, the bastards ought to be struck off.

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Yet you place no blame on the person that misused them.
 
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anatta said:
i have little sympathy for pill OD's. you know the damn milligrams, and you know that taking more then the recommended dose puts you at risk.. Use responsibly and you don't OD.

Heroin is different - you never know the dosage
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Like Russian roulette

R I P Erin...........
 
Milagro said:
Very sad, I used to love Happy Days even though it was cheesy at times. Opiates are a massive problem in the US but are hardly talked about, as evidenced by there being no threads about them on here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituari...ld-actress-played-joanie-happy-days-obituary/

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1) Opiates are a regional problem.

2) Erin Moran was not a star even when she was on Happy Days and her death really shouldn't be in the news.
 
why blame the doctor? The doctor didn't make her take an overdose.people abuse drugs knowingly.
addiction may cause you to seek out drugs,but how many you take at one time is your choice.

1 pain pill gets you a small buzz going-it's part of the therapeutic property of an opiate.
If you need to make yourself higher then the recommended dosage, you are the one to blame if you OD
 
anatta said:
i was a Baltimore junkie for almost 20 years.
I was very careful -and I never shot dope -just snorted it..less chance of an OD that way
as well as infections/hepatitis -all that crap.
With fentanyl it's a whole new ball game out there -you just can't dose safely.."no hope in dope"

for pills there are no excuses..none.
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holy shit man I have so many questions about the wire I should run by you lol
 
{O said:
holy shit man I have so many questions about the wire I should run by you lol
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feel free. but while that was fictional- what you see is what you got, down to the corner boys,
and up to the corrupting power of drug money thru the police dept and government.

It's nothing you didn't already know-even if it was presented in dramatic form.
 
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