Why is it...?

global leaders generally have to be intelligent enough to become global leaders.........intelligence is not a requirement of domestic critics......
 
Why is it Trump's domestic critics don't take him seriously but global leaders do?

Discuss.

Hmmmm. Good question. He has yet to put the equivalent of a bomb up their tailpipe yet. Agree with it or not it does tend to make folks take notice...
 
Trump's domestic agenda has been largely derailed so far.
It will get better -but they didn't realize just how dug in the swamp creatures are
 
Trump's domestic agenda has been largely derailed so far.
It will get better -but they didn't realize just how dug in the swamp creatures are

He's had success in foreign policy. Generally, that translates into domestic success. Though there may be a bit of a lag.

But everything is different with Trump, so we'll see lol.
 
He's had success in foreign policy. Generally, that translates into domestic success. Though there may be a bit of a lag.

But everything is different with Trump, so we'll see lol.
well they got to get it together..i'm tired of the confusion
 
because they cant block it. If trump wants to bomb NK then he bombs NK. Since he is able to implement his strategy in the foreign policy sphere it generally works.

Domestically you can block anything. There are enough friendly courts for both sides that you can find a place to file a constitutional challenge anywhere and get the policy delayed until it reaches the supreme court which could take years. Then you have media and other stuff so he cannot easily implement his strategies.
 
because they cant block it. If trump wants to bomb NK then he bombs NK. Since he is able to implement his strategy in the foreign policy sphere it generally works.

Domestically you can block anything. There are enough friendly courts for both sides that you can find a place to file a constitutional challenge anywhere and get the policy delayed until it reaches the supreme court which could take years. Then you have media and other stuff so he cannot easily implement his strategies.

Bingo.
 
Why is it Trump's domestic critics don't take him seriously but global leaders do?

Discuss.

Interesting question. I was in Asia a bit a go, and out to lunch with the bosses or owners, and the one boss asked me what I thought of Trump. I said he is an idiot and will never win. This guy told me he thinks Trump will win. I said, why. He is different and exciting. No joke, he said that.

And then Trump wins.
 
The swamp as it were has a lot at stake.

The dirty little secret is that to the elites, party labels don't matter. What matters is that someone like Trump has crashed the gates

They have always walked this delicate line of letting people think they elect their leaders while the global elite really run the show behind the scenes

Politicians are merely actors.

Trump is an existential threat to their world order and they will stop at nothing to stop him
 
Interesting question. I was in Asia a bit a go, and out to lunch with the bosses or owners, and the one boss asked me what I thought of Trump. I said he is an idiot and will never win. This guy told me he thinks Trump will win. I said, why. He is different and exciting. No joke, he said that.

And then Trump wins.

asians know the trouble america is in. Mainly because they have been the main beneficiaries of the job flight. Malaysia, India, and the Philippines are benefit from contact centers. Vietnam, china, and others from manufacturing. Japan and south korea from tech and if you think about it they have also managed to set up something that can challenge hollywood culturally. ingapore for financial.
 
The swamp as it were has a lot at stake.

The dirty little secret is that to the elites, party labels don't matter. What matters is that someone like Trump has crashed the gates

They have always walked this delicate line of letting people think they elect their leaders while the global elite really run the show behind the scenes

Politicians are merely actors.

Trump is an existential threat to their world order and they will stop at nothing to stop him

That may be a little melodramatic [then again, maybe not] but I totally agree that some of Trump's domestic critics perceive him as a threat. It's also manifestly obvious they will stop at nothing to stop him---in the form of impeachment.

It's amusing that many of them are sure Trump will be impeached---but they aren't quite sure for what, exactly lol. But Trump's poll numbers do suck; partly, because much of his domestic agenda has been thwarted; and partly because of the media's obsession with the Russian pseudo-scandal, tax returns or the Trump outrage or the day.

Globally, it seems a different issue altogether. In foreign affairs, we haven't had a president with this much gravitas since Reagan.

I agree with tsuke: it's because he's able to act with impunity. And Trump *acts* more than he talks. He promised to bomb ISIS and ISIS got bombed like never before. I get the sense ISIS is reeling after the MOAB.

He acted in Syria without getting sucked into the quagmire. He's got China moving in the right direction---China made a couple historic moves last week, and you have to think Trump had everything to do with it.

Yet there's this gulf in perceptions about Trump: domestically, he's percieved as an orange clown; globally, Trump is anything but a clown. In fact, ISIS wants the clowns to come back.

Fascinating, from a political perspective.
 
Why more seriously than Obama?

We killed 10's of thousands in ISIS under Obama. You think killing about 100 is a big deal, just because it was a really big bomb?

Yes. Escalation is a thing. ;) There is a difference between a drunk driver killing 10 people and someone shouting allahu akbar and killing 5. One does it out of carelessness the other is out to get you.

More than anything Trump represents a message to ISIS saying we do not care about human shields anymore.
 
Yes. Escalation is a thing. ;) There is a difference between a drunk driver killing 10 people and someone shouting allahu akbar and killing 5. One does it out of carelessness the other is out to get you.

More than anything Trump represents a message to ISIS saying we do not care about human shields anymore.

I'm trying to figure out who is who in this incredibly bogus & inappropriate analogy.
 
Why more seriously than Obama?

We killed 10's of thousands in ISIS under Obama. You think killing about 100 is a big deal, just because it was a really big bomb?

Obama has a head start.

Yes, I think the manner in which ISIS got bombed matters.
 
Why is it Trump's domestic critics don't take him seriously but global leaders do?

Discuss.

Because they don't know enough about him, if indeed they do take him seriously.

If you watched any of his pressers with foreign leaders, they all look brilliant compared to trump's bumbling idiocy.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when the leaders are speaking privately about trump.
 
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