Meanwhile, Gorsuch gets confirmed

I am very glad he's confirmed but remains to be seen if using the nuclear option will be a good strategy long term
 
Democrats should have given in. The man is far less extreme than future judges might be. The nuclear option will definitely bite congress in the ass.
 
I am very glad he's confirmed but remains to be seen if using the nuclear option will be a good strategy long term

they can think Harry Reid for opening that door, I will be dead in in less than 50 years, probably 30 years and will live long enough to see our high court correct some of the Ginsburg activism.:hedb:
 
I am very glad he's confirmed but remains to be seen if using the nuclear option will be a good strategy long term

the alternative is withdrawal. Would this have been preferable to you? Who would you be ok with that the left would be as well?
 
I'm glad he was confirmed, I'm also glad the nuclear option was used. In the long run it will help Democrats.
 
I am very glad he's confirmed but remains to be seen if using the nuclear option will be a good strategy long term

It is not. That door is opened now to what ever party is in power. No one ever thinks of the consequences of these things looking forward.
 
It is not. That door is opened now to what ever party is in power. No one ever thinks of the consequences of these things looking forward.

what would you have done? Who would your candidate acceptable to the left be?
 
what would you have done? Who would your candidate acceptable to the left be?

I think the man selected is good. That is not the issue. Once you open pandora's box, it bites you in the kista. And it will continue to happen now.
 
I think the man selected is good. That is not the issue. Once you open pandora's box, it bites you in the kista. And it will continue to happen now.

Surely you realize its not about Gorsuch. The democrats would have shot down anybody to embarass Trump. So you think its bad they nuked the filibuster. Great. What would you have done?
 
Surely you realize its not about Gorsuch. The democrats would have shot down anybody to embarass Trump. So you think its bad they nuked the filibuster. Great. What would you have done?

Tsuke, what part of what I am saying are you not getting? Congress is a bunch of fucked in the head individuals. They are all about one side getting over something on the other. Screw America, it is just about one side winning. Whatever one side in power does now to screw over the the other....will come back and bite the other side in the ass when they come into power. Both side are incapable of looking ahead. What would I have done? Tried to work with the other side. Twist a few political arms. Maybe compromise a little. A little statesmanship maybe? What a concept.
 
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I'm glad he was confirmed, I'm also glad the nuclear option was used. In the long run it will help Democrats.

Will you be as glad when 1 or maybe 2 more are put on the Court by Trump and that pushes it to a Conservative stronghold?
 
Will you be as glad when 1 or maybe 2 more are put on the Court by Trump and that pushes it to a Conservative stronghold?
in an ideal world, Ginsberg dies in the fourth year of Trump's presidency......Dems refuse to vote on her replacement because its too close to the election.......who gets to pick her replacement is the driving force behind Trump's re-election while Warren spends all her time campaigning in Southern California......Dems blame the loss on Cherokee hackers who release DNC emails.....
 
in an ideal world, Ginsberg dies in Trump's 4th year.....Dems refuse to vote on a replacement because its too close to the election.......who gets to pick her replacement is the driving force behind Trump's re-election because Warren spends all her time campaigning in Southern California......

It gets over run by Trump related events but there's a division in the Dem ranks. Do they move back to the center or go left?

Go left...go left...go left lol.
 
Nothing whatsoever has changed.......SCOUTS appointments have been nothing but a dog and phony political show since FDR attempted to stack the court to pass his New Communist Deal in the 30s. From that time forward the SCOTUS seat goes to the political party with the most power and available wealth. The parties purchase the best judges that money can purchase.

The democrats especially have abused the Judicial Branch in order to circumvent the legislative branch as they know their radical and unconstitutional policies can never get by the people under the constitutional method of drafting law.....democrats love radical judges that amend the constitution by adding or taking away from the original language.

That method is how they removed God from the public domain and infiltrated the original democrat party and replaced it with social communism with the ACLU being the transmission to help legislate law from the bench.

Thus, THE Nuclear method changes nothing...except to remove the false hope from the minority party. This option hurt the social demwits more than the conservatives as the conservatives have always folded to demwit pressure even when they have the power to stop them. Take for instance Robert Bork.....Bork could have and should have been confirmed but the Conservatives simply stepped aside....they COULD HAVE used the tactics the democrats have engaged recently....and stood their ground with a filibuster...but they simply stepped aside and allowed the 42-58 vote reject possibly the best judge SCOTUS would have ever known. This will never happen again thanks to Harry Reid. All the nuclear option did was LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD as demonstrated by history actual. Now its a straight up and down political vote instead of having the DOG AND PHONY show just for media effect.
 
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