Did the Obama Adm’s Abuse of Foreign-Intelligence Collection Start Before Trump?

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One clue: The Russia story is a replay of how the former White House smeared pro-Israel activists in the lead-up to the Iran Dea
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...gn-intelligence-collection-start-before-trump

Two inquiries now underway on Capitol Hill, conducted by the Senate intelligence committee and the House intelligence committee, may discover the extent to which Obama administration officials unmasked the identities of Trump team members caught in foreign-intelligence intercepts. What we know so far is that Obama administration officials unmasked the identity of one Trump team member, Michael Flynn, and leaked his name to the Washington Post’s David Ignatius.

“According to a senior U.S. government official,” Ignatius wrote in his Jan. 12 column, “Flynn phoned Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak several times on Dec. 29, the day the Obama administration announced the expulsion of 35 Russian officials as well as other measures in retaliation for the hacking. What did Flynn say, and did it undercut the U.S. sanctions?”

Nothing, the Times and the Post later reported.
But exposing Flynn’s name in the intercept for political purposes was an abuse of the national-security apparatus, and leaking it to the press is a crime.

This is familiar territory. In spying on the representatives of the American people and members of the pro-Israel community, the Obama administration learned how far it could go in manipulating the foreign-intelligence surveillance apparatus for its own domestic political advantage. In both instances, the ostensible targets—Israel and Russia—were simply instruments used to go after the real targets at home.

In order to spy on U.S. congressmen before the Iran Deal vote, the Obama administration exploited a loophole, which is described in the original Journal article.
The U.S. intelligence community is supposed to keep tabs on foreign officials, even those representing allies.
Hence, everyone in Washington knows that Israeli Ambassador Ron Dermer is under surveillance. But it’s different for his American interlocutors, especially U.S. lawmakers, whose identities are, according to NSA protocol, supposed to be, at the very least, redacted. But the standard for collecting and disseminating “intercepted communications involving U.S. lawmakers” is much less strict if it is swept up through “foreign-foreign” intercepts, for instance between a foreign ambassador and his capital. Washington, i.e. the seat of the American government, is where foreign ambassadors are supposed to meet with American officials. The Obama administration turned an ancient diplomatic convention inside out—foreign ambassadors were so dangerous that meeting them signaled betrayal of your own country.

During the long and contentious lead-up to the Iran Deal the Israeli ambassador was regularly briefing senior officials in Jerusalem, including the prime minister, about the situation, including his meetings with American lawmakers and Jewish community leaders. The Obama administration would be less interested in what the Israelis were doing than in the actions of those who actually had the ability to block the deal—namely, Senate and House members. The administration then fed this information to members of the press, who were happy to relay thinly veiled anti-Semitic conceits by accusing deal opponents of dual loyalty and being in the pay of foreign interests.

It didn’t take much imagination for members of Congress to imagine their names being inserted in the Iran deal echo chamber’s boilerplate—that they were beholden to “donors” and “foreign lobbies.” What would happen if the White House leaked your phone call with the Israeli ambassador to a friendly reporter, and you were then profiled as betraying the interests of your constituents and the security of your nation to a foreign power? What if the fact of your phone call appeared under the byline of a famous columnist friendly to the Obama administration, say, in a major national publication?

To make its case for the Iran Deal, the Obama administration redefined America’s pro-Israel community as agents of Israel. They did something similar with Trump and the Russians—whereby every Russian with money was defined as an agent of the state. Where the Israeli ambassador once was poison, now the Russian ambassador is the kiss of death—a phone call with him led to Flynn’s departure from the White House and a meeting with him landed Attorney General Jeff Sessions in hot water.

Did Trump really have dealings with FSB officers? Thanks to the administration’s whisper campaigns, the facts don’t matter; that kind of contact is no longer needed to justify surveillance, whose spoils could then be weaponized and leaked. There are oligarchs who live in Trump Tower, and they all know Putin—ergo, talking to them is tantamount to dealing with the Russian state.

Yet there is one key difference between the two information operations that abused the foreign-intelligence surveillance apparatus for political purposes. The campaign to sell the Iran deal was waged while the Obama administration was in office. The campaign to tie down Trump with the false Russia narrative was put together as the Obama team was on its way out.

The intelligence gathered from Iran Deal surveillance was shared with the fewest people possible inside the administration. It was leaked to only a few top-shelf reporters, like the authors of The Wall Street Journal article, who showed how the administration exploited a loophole to spy on Congress. Congressmen and their staffs certainly noticed, as did the Jewish organizations that were being spied on. But the campaign was mostly conducted sotto voce, through whispers and leaks that made it clear what the price of opposition might be.

The reason the prior abuse of the foreign-intelligence surveillance apparatus is clear only now is because the Russia campaign has illuminated it. As The New York Times reported last month, the administration distributed the intelligence gathered on the Trump transition team widely throughout government agencies, after it had changed the rules on distributing intercepted communications. The point of distributing the information so widely was to “preserve it,” the administration and its friends in the press explained—“preserve” being a euphemism for “leak.” The Obama team seems not to have understood that in proliferating that material they have exposed themselves to risk, by creating a potential criminal trail that may expose systematic abuse of foreign-intelligence collection.
 
What in the hell is "Tablet?" Is that up there with Brietfart, the Blaze, Pat Dollard, WTF, Insurrection something or other?

The entire article, and opinion, is totally baseless, there exists no proof other than accusations by the right that Rice did anything regarding leaking documents, nothing, zero, zilch. Just because you make up a scenario doesn't make that scenario valid
 
One clue: The Russia story is a replay of how the former White House smeared pro-Israel activists in the lead-up to the Iran Dea
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-new...gn-intelligence-collection-start-before-trump

Two inquiries now underway on Capitol Hill, conducted by the Senate intelligence committee and the House intelligence committee, may discover the extent to which Obama administration officials unmasked the identities of Trump team members caught in foreign-intelligence intercepts. What we know so far is that Obama administration officials unmasked the identity of one Trump team member, Michael Flynn, and leaked his name to the Washington Post’s David Ignatius.



Nothing, the Times and the Post later reported.
But exposing Flynn’s name in the intercept for political purposes was an abuse of the national-security apparatus, and leaking it to the press is a crime.

This is familiar territory. In spying on the representatives of the American people and members of the pro-Israel community, the Obama administration learned how far it could go in manipulating the foreign-intelligence surveillance apparatus for its own domestic political advantage. In both instances, the ostensible targets—Israel and Russia—were simply instruments used to go after the real targets at home.

In order to spy on U.S. congressmen before the Iran Deal vote, the Obama administration exploited a loophole, which is described in the original Journal article.
The U.S. intelligence community is supposed to keep tabs on foreign officials, even those representing allies.
Hence, everyone in Washington knows that Israeli Ambassador Ron Dermer is under surveillance. But it’s different for his American interlocutors, especially U.S. lawmakers, whose identities are, according to NSA protocol, supposed to be, at the very least, redacted. But the standard for collecting and disseminating “intercepted communications involving U.S. lawmakers” is much less strict if it is swept up through “foreign-foreign” intercepts, for instance between a foreign ambassador and his capital. Washington, i.e. the seat of the American government, is where foreign ambassadors are supposed to meet with American officials. The Obama administration turned an ancient diplomatic convention inside out—foreign ambassadors were so dangerous that meeting them signaled betrayal of your own country.

During the long and contentious lead-up to the Iran Deal the Israeli ambassador was regularly briefing senior officials in Jerusalem, including the prime minister, about the situation, including his meetings with American lawmakers and Jewish community leaders. The Obama administration would be less interested in what the Israelis were doing than in the actions of those who actually had the ability to block the deal—namely, Senate and House members. The administration then fed this information to members of the press, who were happy to relay thinly veiled anti-Semitic conceits by accusing deal opponents of dual loyalty and being in the pay of foreign interests.

It didn’t take much imagination for members of Congress to imagine their names being inserted in the Iran deal echo chamber’s boilerplate—that they were beholden to “donors” and “foreign lobbies.” What would happen if the White House leaked your phone call with the Israeli ambassador to a friendly reporter, and you were then profiled as betraying the interests of your constituents and the security of your nation to a foreign power? What if the fact of your phone call appeared under the byline of a famous columnist friendly to the Obama administration, say, in a major national publication?

To make its case for the Iran Deal, the Obama administration redefined America’s pro-Israel community as agents of Israel. They did something similar with Trump and the Russians—whereby every Russian with money was defined as an agent of the state. Where the Israeli ambassador once was poison, now the Russian ambassador is the kiss of death—a phone call with him led to Flynn’s departure from the White House and a meeting with him landed Attorney General Jeff Sessions in hot water.

Did Trump really have dealings with FSB officers? Thanks to the administration’s whisper campaigns, the facts don’t matter; that kind of contact is no longer needed to justify surveillance, whose spoils could then be weaponized and leaked. There are oligarchs who live in Trump Tower, and they all know Putin—ergo, talking to them is tantamount to dealing with the Russian state.

Yet there is one key difference between the two information operations that abused the foreign-intelligence surveillance apparatus for political purposes. The campaign to sell the Iran deal was waged while the Obama administration was in office. The campaign to tie down Trump with the false Russia narrative was put together as the Obama team was on its way out.

The intelligence gathered from Iran Deal surveillance was shared with the fewest people possible inside the administration. It was leaked to only a few top-shelf reporters, like the authors of The Wall Street Journal article, who showed how the administration exploited a loophole to spy on Congress. Congressmen and their staffs certainly noticed, as did the Jewish organizations that were being spied on. But the campaign was mostly conducted sotto voce, through whispers and leaks that made it clear what the price of opposition might be.

The reason the prior abuse of the foreign-intelligence surveillance apparatus is clear only now is because the Russia campaign has illuminated it. As The New York Times reported last month, the administration distributed the intelligence gathered on the Trump transition team widely throughout government agencies, after it had changed the rules on distributing intercepted communications. The point of distributing the information so widely was to “preserve it,” the administration and its friends in the press explained—“preserve” being a euphemism for “leak.” The Obama team seems not to have understood that in proliferating that material they have exposed themselves to risk, by creating a potential criminal trail that may expose systematic abuse of foreign-intelligence collection.

LMFAO
 
It's some Jewish mag.
It's saying minor leakage of Senators/etc under the Obama adm were used to try to paint them as dual loyalties.
IOW weaponization of the IC under Obama came before Trump
 
What IS it w/ you guys?

16 intel agencies say there might be something to the Russian thing, and you post for months to look the other way.

One whiff of anything w/ Obama, and it's time to call out the dogs.
 
What IS it w/ you guys?

16 intel agencies say there might be something to the Russian thing, and you post for months to look the other way.

One whiff of anything w/ Obama, and it's time to call out the dogs.
2 track investigation now..you are not getting the other track
 
Are you sure we aren't starting another war by investigating even more stuff?
LOL
You guys are cartoon characters now.
what war? more cold war? how could we possibly increase that escalation?
and more importantly- for the board, when did you decide to move exclusively into the peanut gallery?
 
what war? more cold war? how could we possibly increase that escalation?
and more importantly- for the board, when did you decide to move exclusively into the peanut gallery?

Oh, yeah - very true. We can't POSSIBLY escalate that tense Russian conflict any more than we have. How can the Russians ever forgive us for a congressional investigation into the election? It's a wonder they haven't started bombing us already.

Like I said - cartoon character. You have lost it.
 
Oh, yeah - very true. We can't POSSIBLY escalate that tense Russian conflict any more than we have. How can the Russians ever forgive us for a congressional investigation into the election? It's a wonder they haven't started bombing us already.

Like I said - cartoon character. You have lost it.
really Thing..you need to start saying something and not just knocking everyone's posts.
This is nonsensical
 
What IS it w/ you guys?

16 intel agencies say there might be something to the Russian thing, and you post for months to look the other way.

One whiff of anything w/ Obama, and it's time to call out the dogs.

LOL, just this morning you were using them as evidence there is something going on. But you know what you're lying about? Collusion. All they say is the DNC hacking part.

Poor Thingy.
 
really Thing..you need to start saying something and not just knocking everyone's posts.
This is nonsensical

It is all he does. He knocks people, calls them liars, hacks, silly, massive hacks, etc., but never really offers anything of substance. He has turned into Evince. You should have seen him yesterday. He didn't respond to a post that proved he was just a lying troll and he ignored it for a whole day. I then brought it up and he claimed I ignored the OP and then in three posts in a row, literally a minute apart each, he kept claiming I was ignoring the OP.

:rofl2:
 
And the mosquito is back in the HOUSE!

Stop projecting, Yurt. I know you got all upset today, but that's no reason to go sprinting madly all over the board & responding to everything I write.

I forgot that about you. You really get crazy-obsessive.
 
What IS it w/ you guys?

16 intel agencies say there might be something to the Russian thing, and you post for months to look the other way.

One whiff of anything w/ Obama, and it's time to call out the dogs.

perhaps its because the 16 agencies haven't found any evidence yet about any Tru-ssian connection, but we already have the evidence about Rice even though no one was looking for it.........
 
And the mosquito is back in the HOUSE!

Stop projecting, Yurt. I know you got all upset today, but that's no reason to go sprinting madly all over the board & responding to everything I write.

I forgot that about you. You really get crazy-obsessive.

I did that? Provide proof.

But we both know you won't.
 
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