Why Trump’s rollback of Obama rules won’t do much for coal country

signalmankenneth

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It's just a pipedream if you think coal will be king again?!!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...o-much-for-coal-country/ar-BByZ77Z?li=BBnbcA1
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Just goes to show that P.T. Barnum was right.... there's a sucker born every minute.

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putting miners back to work, putting anyone back to work should be cause for celebration, not ridicule.
Shame on you

Don't be so bloody daft! Miners will be put back to work when there is profit in it for bosses. There ain't - trump is just showing up the mugs!
 
Don't be so bloody daft! Miners will be put back to work when there is profit in it for bosses. There ain't - trump is just showing up the mugs!

The Welsh love coal apart from this miserable bugger. Coal has to compete with fracked gas in the US, but it still has a future for a decade or so anyway.

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The Welsh love coal apart from this miserable bugger. Coal has to compete with fracked gas in the US, but it still has a future for a decade or so anyway.

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Yeah, I kept thinking of the coal workers and Thacher. They were definitely fans of coal back then right?
 
Yeah, I kept thinking of the coal workers and Thacher. They were definitely fans of coal back then right?
Thatcher became a major hate figure for the Welsh in the 80s somewhat unfairly. The miners held successive governments to ransom and the electricity generators finally had enough. They stockpiled at least six months supply of coal and increasingly bought in cheap coal from overseas mainly Australia. The miner's leader Arthur Scargill also called a national strike without a ballot in the summer, not very bright. To be fair though, it did have a profound effect on the Welsh Valleys and indeed Yorkshire where I live.

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Yeah, I kept thinking of the coal workers and Thacher. They were definitely fans of coal back then right?

They were fans of democracy and a job. I was on the Notts/Derbyshire border at the time, and I saw what a police-state looks like. It wasn't pleasant. Like a political prison, if you're lucky, mining produces solidarity. There is nothing much else to be said for it, except it would do bloody Milagro good to try a week'sworth, if he were up to it.
 
They were fans of democracy and a job. I was on the Notts/Derbyshire border at the time, and I saw what a police-state looks like. It wasn't pleasant. Like a political prison, if you're lucky, mining produces solidarity. There is nothing much else to be said for it, except it would do bloody Milagro good to try a week'sworth, if he were up to it.
I live in South Yorkshire boyo, so spare me your bullshit for somebody else. I've also seen Brassed Off many times.


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Aside from coal being a dirty and inefficient energy source, coal miners develop lung disease from decades of inhaling coal dust, then cost the state and Federal govts millions of dollars in health care, straining the system even more than it already is, which just compounds the problems related to his expanding it's use.

But since Trump and the Repugnantcans don't give a crap about health care for poor people or whether or not these people can even access it, he's not worried about that anyway.

As long as he can find a group of willing dupes to pander to, he's happy.

Suckers.
 
Aside from coal being a dirty and inefficient energy source, coal miners develop lung disease from decades of inhaling coal dust, then cost the state and Federal govts millions of dollars in health care, straining the system even more than it already is, which just compounds the problems related to his expanding it's use.

But since Trump and the Repugnantcans don't give a crap about health care for poor people or whether or not these people can even access it, he's not worried about that anyway.

As long as he can find a group of willing dupes to pander to, he's happy.

Suckers.

Well on the plus side ryan & rumpf will do away w/ their health care & save zillions... Oh, my bad, give them the freedumb to chose, to make their own choices:rofl2: :palm:
 
I think the vital point is that coal is obviously not the fuel of the future, so sensible capitalists are not going to over-invest in it anyway. As has, I think, been mentioned, anyone who has observed the effects of silicosis will not be mourning too hard, though we miss the solidarity of the mining communities here, this Valley having had 58 pits at one time. Sensible people have known this for a very long time, and when I was in school, everyone said, 'My Dad reckons I should do anything rather than go down the pit'. They were right.
 
I think the vital point is that coal is obviously not the fuel of the future, so sensible capitalists are not going to over-invest in it anyway. As has, I think, been mentioned, anyone who has observed the effects of silicosis will not be mourning too hard, though we miss the solidarity of the mining communities here, this Valley having had 58 pits at one time. Sensible people have known this for a very long time, and when I was in school, everyone said, 'My Dad reckons I should do anything rather than go down the pit'. They were right.
UCG can be used to extract methane and hydrogen from coal seams, the hydrogen to provide clean electricity using alkaline fuel cells of the type being developed by AFC or to power the cars of the future. The methane can be used to produce power or as a feedstock for the chemical industry. This is a fledgling technology which could become massive in the future, predictably the usual suspects are against it.

http://www.afcenergy.com/technology/how-it-works/

http://www.bgs.ac.uk/research/energy/UCG.html



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