"GOP cave on Obamacare repeal is the biggest broken promise in political history"

coolbreeze said:
the thread title should read Trump outsmarts the Democrat party....AGAIN.

The democrats will never learn, they already owned Obamacare, now it just has been cast in stone.
And when it crumbles under it's own weight, and it will, Trump and the GOP will ride in and be the savoir. AND be able to point back to this moment in time and say he tried to save it earlier, before it completely collapsed.

And if my calculations are right it will be right before the mid terms.
Where the Democrats will lose probably at least another 4 or 5 Senate seats. And countless house seats.
Being a follower of all things political over the last 3 decades+ I have never seen a man, a non-politician no less pull off some of things Trump is pulling off.
there is no other way to describe it except "Art of the Deal".
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So your analysis is better than the CBO? :0) I'm betting .. No.

You've never seen someone pull off what Trump has? :0) Neither has anyone else?

Trump's Approval Rating Falls As 'Trumpcare' Flops
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...e-flops/ar-BByT8jM?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Hey, maybe his goal is to be the least liked least supported president in history ..

.. oh wait, he's already accomplished that. :0)
 
Truth Detector said:
Oh, it's a "conservative" source therefore you liberals gulp that crap down right?

This was hardly a "cave." What it was is an attempt to not supplant one "Obamanation" (sounds like abomination) with another.

There was no vote; there will be one in the future once the bill has been worked on. I bet idiots like you still think liberals are winning don't you? Dunce.
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Truth Rejector acknowledges the best the GOP could come up with in SEVEN YEARS is just another abomination!
 
cawacko said:
you're complaining about lying and here you are lying. Obama's team knew the phrase was a lie when he was saying it yet he continued to do so.
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Oh, so you're a mind reader?

Because unless you can read minds, you've got NO PROOF and no WAY to corroborate your claim that Obama and his team KNEW the phrase was a lie when he was saying it.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Oh, so you're a mind reader?

Because unless you can read minds, you've got NO PROOF and no WAY to corroborate your claim that Obama and his team KNEW the phrase was a lie when he was saying it.
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Actually I do Zap, it's called reading. And I posted the link to the book in this thread.
 
Jarod said:
How so? How was it a lie? It was an over-broad promise, but it was not a lie. The Government did nothing to prevent you from choosing your doctor.

If I promise my tenant that they can continue renting my house for the next 5 years, but then its destroyed by a hurricane, was I lying to her?
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It was not a lie.

It wasn't until AFTER Obama made that pronouncement that insurance companies went and changed specific portions of plans in order to make it appear as though Obama lied.
 
I Love America said:
That is lawyerly spin and you know it. That wasn't how it was sold and you know it.

Why don't you trying being fucking intellectually honest for once? Are you that much of an Obama pole smoker that you can't even tell the truth about one thing he did?

Are you askeered of being called racist?
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ROFL...oh the hilarity.

IHA!

Asking OTHERS to be "intellectually honest for once"!!
 
coolbreeze said:
the thread title should read Trump outsmarts the Democrat party....AGAIN.

The democrats will never learn, they already owned Obamacare, now it just has been cast in stone.
And when it crumbles under it's own weight, and it will, Trump and the GOP will ride in and be the savoir. AND be able to point back to this moment in time and say he tried to save it earlier, before it completely collapsed.

And if my calculations are right it will be right before the mid terms.
Where the Democrats will lose probably at least another 4 or 5 Senate seats. And countless house seats.
Being a follower of all things political over the last 3 decades+ I have never seen a man, a non-politician no less pull off some of things Trump is pulling off.
there is no other way to describe it except "Art of the Deal".
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...so when ObamaCare does collapse, "right before the midterms", and the GOP STILL has not come up with a meaningful replacement plan, causing 24+ MILLION AMERICANS to lose their coverage, who do you think we the people will hold accountable?

The party with NO political clout in DC, or the party in control of BOTH HOUSES of congress and the WHITE HOUSE?
 
cawacko said:
Actually I do Zap, it's called reading. And I posted the link to the book in this thread.
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That's GREAT!!

Now all you've got to do is post the relevant portions of the book that back up your claim.

It's not my job to do your homework for you.

So either post some corroboration or admit your claim is just more unfounded nonsense.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
That's GREAT!!

Now all you've got to do is post the relevant portions of the book that back up your claim.

It's not my job to do your homework for you.

So either post some corroboration or admit your claim is just more unfounded nonsense.
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I told you where you can find it. You have nothing to back up your claim. I'm not doing your homework, this info is out there. You're just being lazy so you can claim ignorance.
 
cawacko said:
I told you where you can find it. You have nothing to back up your claim. I'm not doing your homework, this info is out there. You're just being lazy so you can claim ignorance.
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Y-O-U made the claim that the "proof" that Obama lied is in some book.

Except when I ask to SEE this "book" you won't post it.

Typically evasive wacko.
 
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ZappasGuitar said:
Y-O-U made the claim that the "proof" that Obama lied is in some book.

Except when I ask to SEE this "book" you won't post it.

Typically evasive wacko.
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Buy the Book Zap. If you read you might learn something. Do a google search. This info isn't new, it's been around for years. WaPo gave it four pinnichoios, Polifact the lie of the year. Glad you keep up.
 
Chlorate said:
The mystique of James K. Polk is that he came into office with four objectives and accomplished them all. The only thing that was technically not delivered upon was the exact coordinates of the US-Canada border, which he famously promised to fight for in his "54-40 or Fight" campaign slogan. We settled on the 49th parallel, and there was no war as a result of that lower latitude.
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thank goodness......or Michigan would have had an Upper Penninsula and an Upper Upper Peninsula.......
 
If I promise my tenant that they can continue renting my house for the next 5 years, but then its destroyed by a hurricane, was I lying to her?
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the health care industry was destroyed in a hurricane called liberalism......
 
It's not over.

Why does everyone think that the media are colleagues of those in power?

Why does everyone think that the media are privy to the workings of those in power?

It is all second-hand information.

It is all speculation information.

The term "SPIN" did not evolve from spokesperson's defending the reason foor some actions taken ...
The term "SPIN" evolved from Media Editors and pitchman spokesmen Spinning the headline to get attention.

**THE MAN BIT THE DOG** ---this is what get's your attention!

Just because Trump didn't get the permit to build a "swimming pool" ---doesn't mean we are aware of the work being done to continue work on the project.

Have you ever seen a construction site, where it seems the men with the hard hats are just standing around?
How about the same, but with police officers? We don't know anything until it's Time to fill expensive broadcast time.


As WE say in the Yoga world of the Hare Krishna Movement: Avoid Bogus Gurus and Pundits.
 
Chlorate said:
LBJ had dedicated himself to never losing another election in the corrupt system of Texas politics, by becoming all-powerful himself. He was long past hope by the time he became president.
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He wasn't supposed to ever be POTUS.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
It was not a lie.

It wasn't until AFTER Obama made that pronouncement that insurance companies went and changed specific portions of plans in order to make it appear as though Obama lied.
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And many doctors refused to take certain insurance.
 
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