Blaming the dems

Interesting, first time ever to make a thread with Tapatalk.

Anyhoo, how is it the dems fault? Trump claims to be this great negotiator, and he could not get his party to agree.

I believe, if the pubs had all come together, the dems could not have stopped a repeal, I might be wrong on the numbers, say a filibuster, but I don't see how the dems are responsible for this.
 
Yaya said:
Interesting, first time ever to make a thread with Tapatalk.

Anyhoo, how is it the dems fault? Trump claims to be this great negotiator, and he could not get his party to agree.

I believe, if the pubs had all come together, the dems could not have stopped a repeal, I might be wrong on the numbers, say a filibuster, but I don't see how the dems are responsible for this.
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Trump has to find someone to blame.

It can't possibly be from his own FAILURE.
 
Yaya said:
How can Trump possibly blame the dems?
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“We had no Democratic support,” Trump said from the Oval Office. “They weren’t going to give us a single vote.”

You gotta have more than that.....even if the tv talking heads say it.....
That statement is certainly true but its a leap to say he was blaming dems for anything.....
That may be your interpretation of his statement but that doesn't say your interpretation is the truth of the matter....

He made a simple, factual statement about Dem support, nothing more, nothing less..... that I'm aware of.....
 
NOVA said:
“We had no Democratic support,” Trump said from the Oval Office. “They weren’t going to give us a single vote.”

You gotta have more than that.....even if the tv talking heads say it.....
That statement is certainly true but its a leap to say he was blaming dems for anything.....
That may be your interpretation of his statement but that doesn't say your interpretation is the truth of the matter....

He made a simple, factual statement about Dem support, nothing more, nothing less..... that I'm aware of.....
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Not a single republican vote on Obamacare.

He left that part out.
 
NOVA said:
Its also irrelevant....thats not what we're talking about.

Besides, there was no vote, so we'll never know for sure.
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Might be irrelevant to you .. but that doesn't make it so. It makes what he said downright laughable.

Additionally, Trump rejected democrat attempts to work with him to make Obamacare better .. he rejected them. Also laughable.
 
blackascoal said:
Might be irrelevant to you .. but that doesn't make it so. It makes what he said downright laughable.

Additionally, Trump rejected democrat attempts to work with him to make Obamacare better .. he rejected them. Also laughable.
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Of course he would reject attempts to revamp Obamacare....his aim was to repeal it, not fix it.....

by the same token, Dems would not suggest ways to make his plan work better either.....

All that is irrelevant anyway, we're off the topic of the op....ie, his blaming dems is a stretch unless he said more than that one liner...

which could be since I haven't been following it that closely....
 
NOVA said:
Of course he would reject attempts to revamp Obamacare....his aim was to repeal it, not fix it.....

by the same token, Dems would not suggest ways to make his plan work better either.....

All that is irrelevant anyway, we're off the topic of the op....ie, his blaming dems is a stretch unless he said more than that one liner...

which could be since I haven't been following it that closely....
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Agreed .. but truth be told, there is no way Trump and democrats could fashion a compromise .. especially now that democrats smell blood in the water.
 
NOVA said:
“We had no Democratic support,” Trump said from the Oval Office. “They weren’t going to give us a single vote.”

You gotta have more than that.....even if the tv talking heads say it.....
That statement is certainly true but its a leap to say he was blaming dems for anything.....
That may be your interpretation of his statement but that doesn't say your interpretation is the truth of the matter....

He made a simple, factual statement about Dem support, nothing more, nothing less..... that I'm aware of.....
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Why didn't he mention the pubs he didn't get support from?
 
Yaya said:
Why didn't he mention the pubs he didn't get support from?
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He did.....but I don't remember his exact words....he did say they were 15 or 20 votes short....

So interpret that as saying he was blaming both sides....lol
 
NOVA said:
He did.....but I don't remember his exact words....he did say they were 15 or 20 votes short....

So interpret that as saying he was blaming both sides....lol
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I don't interpret it that way. He flat out blamed the dems, when in reality, he could't get his own party to come to the table and negotiate a bill.

I don't see how this works out for him in any positive way. He claims to be this great negotiator and couldn't even get his own party to come to terms. How does this look for him negotiating with other nations, especially nations opposed to our interests? He is a blowhard and talks smack. He thinks he carries a big stick and doesn't need a carrot.

I wanted Obamacare repealed, in order to get something like universal h/c, which Trump has said he is for, and Trump failed big time. He insulted so many people in the republican party and it is now clear that many republicans don'nt view him as their leader. That is a major failure for the President, who is usually the party leader. Funny thing is, if Trump had not insulted so many party folk, he wouldn't have won, so it is a catch 22, but I don't see how it is going to work out for him.
 
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