No excuse for Trump's persistent wiretap lie

[Darth Omar]

Obama did that in order to keep trump from being able to bury the info. He's already brought a Turkish operative into the classified briefings. He had to fire Manafort for being a Russian operative, but don't think for one minute that information is not being funneled to him regularly.

Bury what info? And if Manafort was a Russian operative [spy] where is the indictment? That's a serious charge.

Shit or get off the pot. In the meantime, stop lying about Trump until you have actual evidence.

Everyone gets held to the same standard now.

 

[Althea]

Bury what info? And if Manafort was a Russian operative [spy] where is the indictment? That's a serious charge.

Shit or get off the pot. In the meantime, stop lying about Trump until you have actual evidence.

Everyone gets held to the same standard now.

There's a big difference between an operative, and a spy. Manafort legally worked for Putin, installing a pro Russian leader in Ukrain. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. That's not even up for debate.

Flynn is a Turkish operative, who sat in on highly classified meetings before he was ousted.

 

[Darth Omar]

There's a big difference between an operative, and a spy. Manafort legally worked for Putin, installing a pro Russian leader in Ukrain. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. That's not even up for debate.

Flynn is a Turkish operative, who sat in on highly classified meetings before he was ousted.

They either did something illegal or they didn't.

If Hillary can pull off a Uranium deal with the Russians and come off clean, I'm confident Flynn and Manafort can do the same; particularly, since they were private citizens at the time whereas Hillary was Sec State.

You seem a little selective with your outrage.

 

[domer76]

You don't need to find the leaker to know that a leak occurred. We also now know you don't need a FISA warrant to wire tap someone: just have someone inside the IC, break the law, and not redact parts of wiretapping intelligence that involves a US citizen.

If that happens to you, you've effectively been wiretapped.

Then, as president, lower the classification level of the unredacted intelligence so it finds its way into the hands of a few of your partisan allies in the IC---and bingo, you have some dirt on Trump scattered all over the media.

I know how important the Trump liar meme is to you, Thingy and other anti-Trump hacks. But some of us find this degree of lawlessness a tad more unsettling than whatever Trump has Tweeted, about anything.

(laughing)

You really are stretching this conspiracy thing to get Obama in the picture. Keep diverting, moron. We all can see how you want to avoid the obvious that your orange hero is a chronic, compulsive, pathologically lying clod. He has made this lie an international incident.

 

[Darth Omar]

(laughing)

You really are stretching this conspiracy thing to get Obama in the picture. Keep diverting, moron. We all can see how you want to avoid the obvious that your orange hero is a chronic, compulsive, pathologically lying clod. He has made this lie an international incident.

Obama inserted himself into the picture when he lowered the classification of intelligence. It also renders the lack of a FISA warrant meaningless; since, you don't need one if you don't redact private citizen's conversations from the raw intelligence derived from a wiretap.

Though all that matters is they get Trump, right?

 

[domer76]

Obama inserted himself into the picture when he lowered the classification of intelligence. It also renders the lack of a FISA warrant meaningless; since, you don't need one if you don't redact private citizen's conversations from the raw intelligence derived from a wiretap.

Though all that matters is they get Trump, right?

lol

"Stretch" is already taken as a name on this forum, moron.

 

[anatta]

Obama did that in order to keep trump from being able to bury the info. He's already brought a Turkish operative into the classified briefings. He had to fire Manafort for being a Russian operative, but don't think for one minute that information is not being funneled to him regularly.

"operative" is the new favorite word..lol
Manafort was fired because he was a crappy campaign manager and why would he bring him in as an "operative" and then fire him in a month?

If you believe Obama did this for security reasons, then in reality Obama had intelligence reasons to think Trump was a Russian___ (fill in the collusion)
how did Obama find this out? Did the IC find out Trump collusions and then tell Obama?

That would mean Trump actually colluded with Putin ( since the IC says Putin is behind all this)
So....when this is debunked -will you drop this operative stuff?

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Darth & Anatta's posts are soooooo sad on this thread.

Are you guys really planning on doing this for FOUR YEARS?

Everyone else in America gets it, guys. It's pretty obvious at this point.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Any rightie who defends Trump for this blatantly pathological lying on the wiretap, or dismisses it (and the rest of his lies) as "just tweets," is forever ceding honesty as any kind of issue.

I mean, you can never again point to any Democrat with an accusation of dishonesty, as you did w/ Hillary. Ever again.

 

[Darth Omar]

Darth & Anatta's posts are soooooo sad on this thread.

Are you guys really planning on doing this for FOUR YEARS?

Everyone else in America gets it, guys. It's pretty obvious at this point.

Really lol? Don't you mean everyone in the anti-Trump Bubble gets it?

 

[Darth Omar]

"operative" is the new favorite word..lol
Manafort was fired because he was a crappy campaign manager and why would he bring him in as an "operative" and then fire him in a month?

If you believe Obama did this for security reasons, then in reality Obama had intelligence reasons to think Trump was a Russian___ (fill in the collusion)
how did Obama find this out? Did the IC find out Trump collusions and then tell Obama?

That would mean Trump actually colluded with Putin ( since the IC says Putin is behind all this)
So....when this is debunked -will you drop this operative stuff?

No, they'll move onto something else lol.

When you look at it that way, Obama found out 'something' about Trump. Probably, illegally. Apparently, whatever 'something' is, it's not something they can hang Trump with---or they would have by now.

Or maybe Obama is between a rock and a hard place, since whatever goods he has on Trump, exposing them would mean exposing himself and others to indictment.

That...would be kind of funny actually lol. Most likely it's all smoke and mirrors---intended to give Trump the steady drip-drip treatment.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Really lol? Don't you mean everyone in the anti-Trump Bubble gets it?

No. Republicans are extremely embarrassed by this. Merkel was embarrassed. The British were ticked about it.

Trump has taken America's credibility down a notch globally w/ his persistence on this obvious lie. It's alarming to see any person stick w/ something like this in the face of clear facts. It shows a disturbing pathology - but also makes everyone question anything the man says.

 

[anatta]

No, they'll move onto something else lol.

When you look at it that way, Obama found out 'something' about Trump. Probably, illegally. Apparently, whatever 'something' is, it's not something they can hang Trump with---or they would have by now.

Or maybe Obama is between a rock and a hard place, since whatever goods he has on Trump, exposing them would mean exposing himself and others to indictment.

That...would be kind of funny actually lol. Most likely it's all smoke and mirrors---intended to give Trump the steady drip-drip treatment.

it certainly was a pernicious move by Obama. generating "breadcrumbs" to gin up reports ,and the disseminate the reports across the INTEL services, where the Obamatrons and political appointees as well as the IC carrierists who hate Trumps lack of Russiaphobia would do the leaking.

I think you are finally going to see some coverage/exposure of some leaks -
once this Russian collusion plays itself out.

The drip drip drip was harmful,and they should pay for usurping their role as subservient to POTUS

 

[tinfoil]

Trump supporters, you guys know that it doesn't reflect poorly on you to recognize Trump has a problem. You do look silly defending an obvious fibber. Do you simply not care about being misled?

 

[Darth Omar]

Trump supporters, you guys know that it doesn't reflect poorly on you to recognize Trump has a problem. You do look silly defending an obvious fibber. Do you simply not care about being misled?

I don't know about anyone else, but I care about reviving the economy; getting a conservative appointed to SCOTUS; returning sane immigration policy. Things like that concern more than Trumps Twitter account.

As long as Trump delivers---and he's off to decent start, I just don't care what he says.

What do you care about?

 

[anatta]

Trump supporters, you guys know that it doesn't reflect poorly on you to recognize Trump has a problem. You do look silly defending an obvious fibber. Do you simply not care about being misled?

i definately hate his Tweeting. It's self destructive and distractive..
But am I going to base my judgement on just that alone? no.

 

[Darth Omar]

i definately hate his Tweeting. It's self destructive and distractive..
But am I going to base my judgement on just that alone? no.

Liberals pretend they hate it lol.

He does give them ammo with it, so it's mostly counter productive. But after all the handwringing is done, Trump will live or die politically, on his results and not his Tweets.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

I don't know about anyone else, but I care about reviving the economy; getting a conservative appointed to SCOTUS; returning sane immigration policy. Things like that concern more than Trumps Twitter account.

As long as Trump delivers---and he's off to decent start, I just don't care what he says.

What do you care about?

Truth.

Someone who is actually capable of telling the truth once in awhile.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Liberals pretend they hate it lol.

He does give them ammo with it, so it's mostly counter productive. But after all the handwringing is done, Trump will live or die politically, on his results and not his Tweets.

He's done. The economy could soar; people are already tired of this circus.

 

[anatta]

Liberals pretend they hate it lol.

He does give them ammo with it, so it's mostly counter productive. But after all the handwringing is done, Trump will live or die politically, on his results and not his Tweets.

Trump speaks fractured English..I factored that into my vote..
Obama was a smooth talker but towards what ends?

He shoved mindless regulations into the economy - and he left us Obamacare, which was fne as a transitional
but not so fine going forward. Of course there was his foreign policy too -almost as bad as Bush's
except Libya wasn't quite as bad as Iraq - but Obama completely screwed up Russian relations to the point Trump is being denied a Russian reset.

Oh well.. I agree with you. like the people of Missouri say "show me"..