Scots seek to leave sinking UK.

Support for Scottish independence is at its highest-ever level, according to an academic study.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39265997

It was carried out by ScotCen Social Research and has been published two days after First Minister Nicola Sturgeon confirmed she wants to ask the UK government for permission to hold a second referendum on Scottish independence.
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That 's just today. Wait until Mantis May slits Brit throats with her callous disregard for ordinary working folk.
 
Milagro said:
Spain has told the Scots in no uncertain terms that they will be at the back of the queue for the EU.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/spain-says-independent-scotland-would-back-eu-queue/

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It may even cause the breakup of Scotland!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...referendum-wouldnt-just-put-union-risk-could/

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Northern Ireland vote jolts already disunited Kingdom

By Ian Graham | BELFAST

A nationalist surge at elections in Northern Ireland and a Scottish demand for a second independence referendum have raised doubts over whether the United Kingdom can hold together after it leaves the European Union.

Last year's referendum on EU membership saw England and Wales vote to leave while Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain, straining the ties that bind the UK together.

Scottish leader Nicola Sturgeon dealt a blow to British Prime Minister Theresa May on Monday by demanding a new vote on independence in late 2018 or early 2019, making her move much sooner than expected.

But while the Scottish issue had been well flagged since the Brexit vote, a snap provincial assembly election in Northern Ireland produced a genuine shock: for the first time since the partition of Ireland in 1921, unionists lost their majority.

Nationalist party Sinn Fein, backed by many of Northern Ireland's Catholics, narrowed the gap with the Democratic Unionist Party, whose support base is among pro-British Protestants, to just one seat.

This has revived the slow-burning question of whether Northern Ireland will stay in the United Kingdom over the long term or become part of the Republic of Ireland. This could be achieved by a referendum, often referred to as a border poll.

"A border poll might be 10 years away and it might still be lost, but clearly this election has shown a different dynamic in Northern Ireland politics," said Peter Shirlow, Director of Irish Studies at the University of Liverpool.

"This opens the door for a different scenario."

Nationalist leader Gerry Adams, who is 68 and still hopes to see a united Ireland in his lifetime, told Reuters Sinn Fein had sensed new interest in Irish unity from voters.

But May, whose party is officially called Conservative and Unionist, has stated a deep personal commitment to keeping the 300-year-old UK together and is determined not to go down in history as the prime minister who allowed it to fall apart.

Opinion polls in the past have shown only limited support for Irish unity, including among Catholics. That is partly because of high awareness of the province's dependence on public sector jobs, welfare benefits and other flows of UK cash.

"BREXIT CHANGES EVERYTHING"

Senia Paseta, a professor of modern Irish history at the University of Oxford, said the economic context was a key part of the picture south of the border as well.

"I don’t think reunification is likely in the short to medium term, not least because the Irish Republic is rightly wary of taking on Northern Ireland," she said.

But while Irish unity may not be on the cards anytime soon, the balance of opinion could change over time under the combined impact of Brexit and of demographic shifts that could favor Irish nationalism.

In Belfast's mainly Catholic Ardoyne area, a frequent flashpoint of communal tensions, no one was getting carried away just yet.

"I really hope what happened will make a border poll more likely, the sooner the better. But there are more of them than us still, so it would need some Protestants to vote for unity," said resident Sean Doherty.

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Northern Ireland vote jolts already disunited Kingdom

By Ian Graham | BELFAST

A nationalist surge at elections in Northern Ireland and a Scottish demand for a second independence referendum have raised doubts over whether the United Kingdom can hold together after it leaves the European Union.

Last year's referendum on EU membership saw England and Wales vote to leave while Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain, straining the ties that bind the UK together.

Scottish leader Nicola Sturgeon dealt a blow to British Prime Minister Theresa May on Monday by demanding a new vote on independence in late 2018 or early 2019, making her move much sooner than expected.

But while the Scottish issue had been well flagged since the Brexit vote, a snap provincial assembly election in Northern Ireland produced a genuine shock: for the first time since the partition of Ireland in 1921, unionists lost their majority.

Nationalist party Sinn Fein, backed by many of Northern Ireland's Catholics, narrowed the gap with the Democratic Unionist Party, whose support base is among pro-British Protestants, to just one seat.

This has revived the slow-burning question of whether Northern Ireland will stay in the United Kingdom over the long term or become part of the Republic of Ireland. This could be achieved by a referendum, often referred to as a border poll.

"A border poll might be 10 years away and it might still be lost, but clearly this election has shown a different dynamic in Northern Ireland politics," said Peter Shirlow, Director of Irish Studies at the University of Liverpool.

"This opens the door for a different scenario."

Nationalist leader Gerry Adams, who is 68 and still hopes to see a united Ireland in his lifetime, told Reuters Sinn Fein had sensed new interest in Irish unity from voters.

But May, whose party is officially called Conservative and Unionist, has stated a deep personal commitment to keeping the 300-year-old UK together and is determined not to go down in history as the prime minister who allowed it to fall apart.

Opinion polls in the past have shown only limited support for Irish unity, including among Catholics. That is partly because of high awareness of the province's dependence on public sector jobs, welfare benefits and other flows of UK cash.

"BREXIT CHANGES EVERYTHING"

Senia Paseta, a professor of modern Irish history at the University of Oxford, said the economic context was a key part of the picture south of the border as well.

"I don’t think reunification is likely in the short to medium term, not least because the Irish Republic is rightly wary of taking on Northern Ireland," she said.

But while Irish unity may not be on the cards anytime soon, the balance of opinion could change over time under the combined impact of Brexit and of demographic shifts that could favor Irish nationalism.

In Belfast's mainly Catholic Ardoyne area, a frequent flashpoint of communal tensions, no one was getting carried away just yet.

"I really hope what happened will make a border poll more likely, the sooner the better. But there are more of them than us still, so it would need some Protestants to vote for unity," said resident Sean Doherty.

more @ source
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This article is premium quality bullshit!!

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A united Ireland would be a lovely little cherry atop the Brexit sundae.

There is a concern since the Irish Republic is part of the Euro zone and Northern Ireland will not be. The dismantled border will need to be rebuilt, a prospect neither side wants.
 
Taft2016 said:
A united Ireland would be a lovely little cherry atop the Brexit sundae.

There is a concern since the Irish Republic is part of the Euro zone and Northern Ireland will not be. The dismantled border will need to be rebuilt, a prospect neither side wants.
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A unified Ireland is inevitable- as Scotland breaks free of the English, long, long past their sell-by date and attempting to disguise the smell with business suits and petty foreign investments.
 
Taft2016 said:
A united Ireland would be a lovely little cherry atop the Brexit sundae.

There is a concern since the Irish Republic is part of the Euro zone and Northern Ireland will not be. The dismantled border will need to be rebuilt, a prospect neither side wants.
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Well as long as Ireland is not party to the Schengen Treaty that is not a problem. I wouldn't be surprised if Ireland leaves the EU as well in years to come.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...llion-migrants-expert-warns-Brexit-referendum
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A unified Ireland is inevitable- as Scotland breaks free of the English, long, long past their sell-by date and attempting to disguise the smell with business suits and petty foreign investments.
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You are an ignorant oaf, unfortunately Septics are little different to you.

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Bill said:
I guess you ppl will be dropping the united kingdumb & going w/ use to be great Britain??
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Why? There is no chance that Northern Ireland will leave the UK. Only fools and Americans believe that crap.

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I think it's more likely that Irish Reunification will occur than Scottish Independence. I mean, the only obstacle to unification was the issue of NI being a political, cultural, and religious minority within the republic. Now that those three things aren't much of an issue compared to the past, there isn't much fear left.
 
Chlorate said:
I think it's more likely that Irish Reunification will occur than Scottish Independence. I mean, the only obstacle to unification was the issue of NI being a political, cultural, and religious minority within the republic. Now that those three things aren't much of an issue compared to the past, there isn't much fear left.
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Well if the truth were known the politicians in the South fear unification, of course it is political suicide to day so publically but it's true nonetheless.

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Milagro said:
Well if the truth were known the politicians in the South fear unification, of course it is political suicide to day so publically but it's true nonetheless.
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I'd think the British Isles are a basket case politically. Northern Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Scotland. And what's going on with Wales?
 
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