^ *OMG Bill*
the election has sucked out your brain..
LOL, you are the one that has gone from anti-hillary to full blown trumpsky............ I am where I have been....
^ *OMG Bill*
the election has sucked out your brain..

globalism is a dead letter. It's a multi-polar world and the way to navigate it is by temporary to permanent national alliances..That's exactly what Putin is doing. and he's poaching our alliances while expanding his.Candidate Trump’s admiration for Putin; his declared preference for nationalism over globalism;
Revert?? "spheres" are realpolitik not some grand UN impositions. understand and play the existing spheres.his apparent intention to revert to a world order based on great-power spheres of influence;
his skepticism of the EU is well founded since Trump is a nationalist and not some kina pan_Americanism like Clinton and her call for open borders.Nationalism is realpolitik also.his skepticism toward the European Union (he has urged members to follow Britain to the exit); and his denigration of NATO as “obsolete.”
^ *OMG Bill*
the election has sucked out your brain..
Trump is a nationalist and not some kina pan_Americanism like Clinton and her call for open borders.Nationalism is realpolitik also.
Don't even notice it.
populism means political power from the populace -not from the so called establishment.Ya'll supported him & called him a populist, now he re-brands himself again & ya'll seamlessly call him a nationalistDon't even notice it.
Fuck hillary, lets talk about wtf the trumpf has done & is doing.............
why not join NATO? there are no downsides for those little countries, but more importantly James Baker did say after German unification that NATO would not expand eastwards. Look at a map to see how far they did.
Trump is not advocating a nuclear arms race -he is advocating modernization -but nukes and detente
are not the only reason for detente. The sheer number of conventional weapons pointed at each other
is a costly arms race..
Yes Russia is pushing back on NATO expansionism,,that's hardly surprising
quoting Brookings is like quoting the Clinton campaign.The United States Never Promised to Not Expand NATO: Says Gorbachev
It is abundantly evident that Russian President Vladimir Putin is no fan of NATO. Indeed, he displays a pronounced—almost obsessive—antipathy toward the Alliance. He claims that NATO took advantage of Russian weakness after the collapse of the Soviet Union to enlarge to its east, in violation of promises allegedly made to Moscow by Western leaders. But no such promises were made—a point now confirmed by someone who was definitely in a position to know: Mikhail Gorbachev, then president of the Soviet Union.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-f...ato-promise-not-to-enlarge-gorbachev-says-no/
With your incorrect assertion, you actually sound like Kremlin propaganda. It your incorrect assertion was this far off from the truth, I really do not feel I should waste my time looking into your other assertions. Please check your information before posting. Rightwing blogs are not known for accuracy, truthiness, and standard journalistic practices.
Donald J. Drumpf is a war monger. There is no way to put lipstick on that pig. He supported the Iraq War in the beginning, he talked of "stealing" Iraq's oil, he is always talking about bombing the shit out of everything, and his first budget proposals reflect his moral priorities: massive increased in spending for the military, and vast cuts for public services for the American people.
Apparently I'm not an expert either lol.
But aren't Ukraine and Crimea part of Russia, culturally? Poland, East Germany etc, not so much? What I was getting at is I'm under the impression Putin's motives aren't open-ended empire so much as bringing the culturally Russian countries back into Russia.
I may be wrong about that too lol. But if that's the case, he's no threat to NATO and certainly not to Western Europe.
You haven't met any Ukrainians or Georgians, have you? I have. I have relatives in Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine, and have visited and travelled there.
Yes, in principle Putin would like to reconstitute the old Russian empire in some form or other.
There are many Ukrainians and Belarusians who would take offense at your implication that they are culturally Russian and belong in Russia's sphere of influence. A Georgian might actually punch you in the face for suggesting they submit to the Russians.
Hitler also thought it was his right to unite the "Germanic" peoples of Scandinavia and central Europe under German domination. It is an old argument we have seen before, an argument used to justify hegemony and empire.
It is fair to say that these east Slavic nations have some shared history with Russia, and that there are ethnic Russian speaking minorities who have some sympathy for Russia. I certainly saw a lot of those types in Belarus. But to support armed insurrection and military aggression against your neighbors, as Russia did in Ukraine and Georgia? Is that something you are seriously going to defend/excuse/gloss over?
quoting Brookings is like quoting the Clinton campaign.
Please feel free not to engage.
Bakes promise was nebulous -agreed on that, but it's clear expanding NATO beyond the GDR was never in the cards -implied or not..
So what happened after that? Implied or not NATO expanded, and not just a little bit but right up to former Soviet Block states like Romania , and the US used that expansion to even influence the Euromaiden and the Orange Revolution.
Get that? the US meddling in a border state of Russia's election , and undermining Yanukovych because of his economic ties to Russia?
I'm not going to debate Trump's military.. If you don't understand sequestor greatly diminished US military readiness
and cut back our Navy to very low numbers -it's pointless.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/27/2003-clip-backs-up-trump-on-iraq-war-opposition.html
“The record shows that I’m right,” he said. “When I did an interview with Howard Stern, very lightly, first time anyone’s asked me that, I said, very lightly, ‘I don’t know, maybe, who knows?’ essentially. I then did an interview with Neil Cavuto. We talked about the economy is more important [than going to war].”
Nearly two months before the Iraq War began on March 20. In the video, Cavuto asks Trump how much time President Bush should spend on the economy vs. on Iraq.
Trump continued: “Perhaps he shouldn’t be doing it yet. And perhaps we should be waiting for the United Nations.”
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You haven't met any Ukrainians or Georgians, have you? I have. I have relatives in Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine, and have visited and travelled there.
Yes, in principle Putin would like to reconstitute the old Russian empire in some form or other.
There are many Ukrainians and Belarusians who would take offense at your implication that they are culturally Russian and belong in Russia's sphere of influence. A Georgian might actually punch you in the face for suggesting they submit to the Russians.
Hitler also thought it was his right to unite the "Germanic" peoples of Scandinavia and central Europe under German domination. It is an old argument we have seen before, an argument used to justify hegemony and empire.
It is fair to say that these east Slavic nations have some shared history with Russia, and that there are ethnic Russian speaking minorities who have some sympathy for Russia. I certainly saw a lot of those types in Belarus. But to support armed insurrection and military aggression against your neighbors, as Russia did in Ukraine and Georgia? Is that something you are seriously going to defend/excuse/gloss over?
Then Baker conversation wasn't recorded. There is disagreement as to what was said and understood.Moving the goal posts? You went from unequivocally saying there was a Promise to not expand NATO, to saying here it was nebulous and unclear?
Don't like Brookings as a source?
Yet the claim that the negotiations towards this treaty included guarantees barring Nato from expansion into Eastern Europe is entirely unfounded.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/24/russia-nato-expansion-memory-grievances
Your hero Donald J. Drumpf is a war monger, and your support for him is premised on the fact that he want to expand the war on ISIS, "bomb the shit out of people", steal Iraq's oil, supported Bush's invasion of Iraq, and proposed a seemingly unprecedented military buildup at the expense of vast cuts to public programs for American citizens. Trump has spent his whole life as a wanna be alpha male, chest beating gorilla. If you want to believe he is interested in diplomacy, soft power, negotiation, and peaceful resolutions to conflicts you are either deluded or misinformed. .
Obviously the Ukraine and Georgia are a different matter, but, don't a majority of the people in Belarus support reunification with Russia?
No way was I going to vote for a warmongering, borderline criminal,big donor driven, plutocratic, serial liar as Clinton.Donald J. Drumpf was not the superior choice to Hillary Clinton, and most voting Americans agreed on November 7.
History is going to show what a costly and tragic mistake your vote for Donald J. Drumpf was. Just as it was with George Dumbya, who was such a horrible president, even the GOP won't let him show up at the national conventions.
No way was I going to vote for a warmongering, borderline criminal,big donor driven, plutocratic, serial liar as Clinton.
I didn't vote for Shrub -I did vote for Bernie in the primary..
We had a couple of crappy choices for POTUS- in the end I voted as a federalist, anti-interventionist, and hope for the best.
a large amount of the electorate voted for the "lessor evil"-obviously you don't understand electoral politics-What I have noticed about rightwingers, wingnuts, trumptards, and neocons is they always define themselves politically as being against something. Against Hillary. Against Obama. Against Al Gore. Modern wingnuts do not appear to have any principles at all, they simply define themselves as being against Democrats and Liberals. There is never any compelling reason provided for voting for Donald J. Drumpf, Mittens Romney, George Dumbya Bush, Dick Cheney, or Sarah Palin. Why, it is almost as if winguts are ashamed and embarrassed of their candidates!
I was, and always will be proud of voting for Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama (now rated 12th best president of all time, leaves office with 60 percent approval), John Kerry, Al Gore, and Bill Clinton. Shame and embarrassment of my votes is not something I am familiar with, which appears to stand in sharp relief compared to wingnut explanations for their voting choices!
But, feel free to stick with the story that Democrats forced you to vote for a deranged, sexist reality TV star because they had the nerve to nominate Hillary.
As for Russia, you and I are going to have to disagree. I find your opinion to be almost synonymous with Kremlin propaganda; what on God's green earth are you reading?
You seem the type that likes to get the last word in, so have it and carry on!