NEW BOMBSHELL: Jared Kushner and Mike Flynn met with the Russians in December

christiefan915 said:
Cons have the golden showers dossier, libs have the Pizzagate dossier.

A wikileak that turned into an ugly story that Hillary and her allies headed up a pedophile ring is a million times worse than the golden showers stuff. Cons spread pizzagate through viral emails, forums and social media.

Ignoramuses like Mike Flynn's perverted son gave credence to that abomination and helped keep it alive.

The IC didn't create the golden showers story, they just let trump and Obama know it existed. Would it have been better if the story got out and blindsided trump? I don't think so. Letting him know about it is no different IMO than letting Obama know about all the birth certificate conspiracies and other damaging lies being spread about him.
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that's the convenient explanation..but think logically..why would the IC
think it important to brief what is essentially fake news?
How much fake news is there?Thre has to be a YUGE amount -so why this?

And then....why leak it? Or the REST of the constant drip.. drip.. drip.. leaks?
There can only be 1 unifying principle behind all this -purposeful damaging to Trump by the deep state
 
anatta said:
that's the convenient explanation..but think logically..why would the IC
think it important to brief what is essentially fake news?
How much fake news is there?Thre has to be a YUGE amount -so why this?

And then....why leak it? Or the REST of the constant drip.. drip.. drip.. leaks?
There can only be 1 unifying principle behind all this -purposeful damaging to Trump by the deep state
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Did the IC know it was fake news at the time?

Anti-trump Republicans hired the author of the documents to do opposition research on trump. McCain got hold of them and passed them on to the FBI, then Obama and trump got a summary.

I think this is a good article that calls out both sides in this debacle. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/trump-russia-report-explained
 
christiefan915 said:
Did the IC know it was fake news at the time?

Anti-trump Republicans hired the author of the documents to do opposition research on trump. McCain got hold of them and passed them on to the FBI, then Obama and trump got a summary.

I think this is a good article that calls out both sides in this debacle. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/trump-russia-report-explained
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good article. I take issue with this:

Now let’s look at the motives of our own intelligence agencies, which did not produce the current dossier but which have allegedly found it credible enough to summarize, adding a warning to Trump that Moscow has dirt on him. On the one hand, they want to stay professional and credible, and that means getting things right, regardless of personal feelings. On the other hand, they undoubtedly dislike Trump, since the man has repeatedly insulted them, and revenge is in the air. As Chuck Schumer told Rachel Maddow, “You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” Is that conspiratorial? Of course it is. But so is everything else surrounding this story. There’s conspiracy one way or another.
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The IC has no right to hate Trump, and then ACT on that hate. That is Deep State governing.
Moreover everything else I've read says the IC did know it was fake news..even if they wanted to "warn Trump"
 
christiefan915 said:
Sessions isn't on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, dum dum.
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Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet Senate Foreign Relations Committee member meets with foreigner......bombshell news at 11......
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He was when the so-called meeting took place...I say 'meeting', singular, because the encounter at the RNC can't even be loosely called a meeting.
 
anatta said:
good article. I take issue with this:

The IC has no right to hate Trump, and then ACT on that hate. That is Deep State governing.
Moreover everything else I've read says the IC did know it was fake news..even if they wanted to "warn Trump"
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The IC acted on Hillary too, when Comey released that phony info two weeks before the election and then walked it back. So as far as I'm concerned, it's equal opportunity acting.
 
christiefan915 said:
The IC acted on Hillary too, when Comey released that phony info two weeks before the election and then walked it back. So as far as I'm concerned, it's equal opportunity acting.
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The FBI had a valid, unquestionable investigation of Clinton Emails going on.
Comey promised to update Congress of anything new -and he did.it wasn't "phony" it was duplicative upon review
 
anatta said:
The FBI had a valid, unquestionable investigation of Clinton Emails going on.
Comey promised to update Congress of anything new -and he did.it wasn't "phony" it was duplicative upon review
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Then he should have reviewed first and released (or not) second.
 
christiefan915 said:
Then he should have reviewed first and released (or not) second.
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that's a reasonable position.He was jammed up by time,and his letter made it clear he wasn't evaluating the material.
I blame Clinton for her own actions - she caused her own problems- but i see your point
 
Why is it that almost all Congressmen and Senators have met with the fascist, Netanyahu- and nobody cares ?

He went away with 50 billion dollars of US tax-payers money. And nobody cares ?
 
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