Trump caves, Amnesty now ok!

lets give amnesty on the condition that anyone accepting it makes themselves ineligible for any government assistance for the rest of their lives.
 
Amnesty is the only to prevent the enslavement of an underclass of people who work here illegally. Until we have an amnesty we will have a class of workers afraid to complain about indecent treatment.

amnesty will not solve that problem......creating a functioning immigration system would.....
 
So for you and TTQ464, you're both Democrats and voted for Bill Clinton. In his SOTU he spoke about us being a nation of laws and illegals needing to be deported. How could a Democrat not understand human decency? And y'all supported his wife.

Let's be clear. I didn't support Hilary, but not for the same reasons as the right.... you know that. My vote was against Dump and any other republican running for office.

Like I've said before Clinton had a republican congress who gave him what he wanted as long as he fucked over Blacks and Mexicans.

Nation of laws, crime, violence, dominance, oppression etc. is what your side advocates for. It's your platform, it's what you all beg for.
So ya, unfortunately, we have some dems who will sell their souls to the devils for what ever their agenda might be and Clinton is one of them.
 

Did everyone forget.....he promised to secure the border and deport the criminal elements before addressing any future actions that would take a bilateral commitment? Where has this been attempted before? Only by the greatest president of the last century Ronald Reagan. Its demonstrable that Trump is attempting to mirror the actions of Mr. Reagan....when one can't get a whole loaf of bread...its more than stupid to turn down half a loaf. Just to kick start the memories of the left on this board, the law of the land as it still stands is the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986...signed into law on Nov. 6, 1986 by Ronald Reagan. The reform act of 1990 in no way rescinded any provisions of the 86 act...it was to appease Ted Kennedy

If you wish to spin.....upholding the standing rule of law as CAVING in or getting bitch slapped then indeed you are not in touch with the reality that surrounds you. There is more than enough room under the 86 and 90 acts of congress to deport those who are draining the economy and bringing violence and drugs into our nation. No one is against LEGAL IMMIGRATION....if the two sides can get together to modernize Mr. Reagan's approach....then Legal will have a whole new meaning..no? Who is against anyone wanting to better themselves through legal immigration? No one....but everyone must be forced out of the shadows through one method or another to determine their potential worth or harm to this nation....while curbing the illegal flood of immigration at our border.

It appears to me.....Mr. Trump is simply fishing for more Latino support and will most likely get it...as most Latino's are more conservative than liberal with their societal more's. If he can successfully pull something of this magnitude off...he's a shoe in for an 8 year administration.
 
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What was the substance of this first address to congress and the nation? As always, Mr. Trump is a negotiator...he presented his terms to congress (in particularly the democrats of congress) in the area's that he was willing to negotiate and to the GOP in areas where he was never to going to bend his core principles that were promised before the election....he would negotiate in some areas but never back away from the duty that got him elected, TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

He never backed down in calling the evil of Islamic Terrorism by its true name....and clearly stated with no ambiguity....that the United States was engaged in a war THAT MUST BE WON with the evil that is Islamic Terrorism...something missing from the vocabulary of the last commander in chief....WAR, evil, win, enemy and ISLAMIC...he exposed the lies of Obama Care....the lies of political correctness that refused to define the enemy in this war on terror, the lies of the worthless foreign policies that have accomplished little except to waste some 6 trillion dollars being redistributed to the middle east to purchase the supposed help with the FAKE Muslim member nations that numbered 68 but where only 2 actually existed in that false coalition with any type of support....

All in all....a great first volley in the war against the democrats in negotiating to place American Citizens first...above political correctness, wealth redistribution, and radical ideologies. What was witnessed last night was the tactic made famous by Muhammad Ali....the Rope a Dope....he presented the appearance of someone against the ropes but in reality he was merely tiring his opponent to the point of physical exhaustion...leaving the democrats with a false sensation that they had somehow accomplished something with all those wasted blows. Last night demonstrated the fact that the democrats once again have underestimated the abilities and talent of Donald J. Trump. They looked for him to back down from his tone and mission....wrong, he simply dug in deeper for the long haul.
 
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Amnesty is the only to prevent the enslavement of an underclass of people who work here illegally. Until we have an amnesty we will have a class of workers afraid to complain about indecent treatment.

Or send them back. They have no inherent right to be here.

You support their lawbreaking because you think it improves your party's electoral chances

Questions for you

1) do you think we should enforce the immigration laws we have on the books today?
2) do you even believe we should have immigration laws at all?
 
I'm still trying to understand the Democratic excitement over amnesty. Is it because the thought these people will vote Democrat? For the costal elites I totally get it. For minority voters I get it to. But for those who aren't rich what's the appeal?

No clearly you don't and that is a shame.
 
That's gotta' be fake news, right? :0)

Trump couldn't be caving on his signature issue already, right?

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Amnesty!!!! JEB style!

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It's about something those on the right obviously have no understanding of.... human decency.

What is so "decent" about ignoring the disaster we are seeing in black communities stuck in liberal controlled urban sewers?

What is so "decent" about not accepting an election result while purposefully diminishing the office of the President?

What is so "decent" about a media that promotes false narratives?

Moron.
 
Amnesty is the only to prevent the enslavement of an underclass of people who work here illegally. Until we have an amnesty we will have a class of workers afraid to complain about indecent treatment.

Another stupid and false claim. You lying liberals are quite full of them.
 
I think he should do a Reagan type amnesty and then say that's it. Anymore who come will be sent back straight away without let or hindrance.

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To piss off snowflakes, bottom feeders and racists

The Reagan amnesty was a failure because the lying Democrats who agreed to do it failed to do their part and pass immigration reforms that would prevent further illegal incursions from the South of our borders.
 
Or send them back. They have no inherent right to be here.

You support their lawbreaking because you think it improves your party's electoral chances

Questions for you

1) do you think we should enforce the immigration laws we have on the books today?
2) do you even believe we should have immigration laws at all?

I think the immigration laws should be changed, regardless of how and when you got here you should be allowed to apply for citizenship or legal residency and have the same set of criteria apply. I don't believe that totally controlling any of our borders is realistic, it is both cost prohibitive and counterproductive. The fact is that people will come her illegally. Once they are here if there is not a way for them to then apply and become "legal" there will always be an enslaved underclass afraid to seek legal protection, they will be taken advantage of by Corporations and gangs. They will produce an underclass of children who were raised in poverty and did not get educated well enough to be profitable Americans, they will raise children who saw America take advantage of their parents.

At no time in history has it been beneficial to society or culture to have a legally unprotected underclass who were enslaved.
 
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