Federal scientist cooked climate change books ahead of Obama presentation

sear said:
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"20 year "pause"" #34

Do tell.
Which 20 years?
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You cited CO2 concentration. How does that disprove the well documented hiatus (slowdown in rate of climate change)?

Karl et al 2015 used the ERSST v4 by NOAA. Take a look at the adjustments they made to erase the pause. The had ship water inlet temp data and they had buoy data that showed the ship data was biased warmer (water temp measured after being pumped into an engine room showed warming? say it ain't so). They had a choice to correct the ship data to account for the warm bias or they could correct the buoy data by adding the warm bias to it. The claim is it doesn't change the trend, but it does change where the trend fall.
 
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"Actually it is so the scientists can get richer" AG #39

And they need a global conspiracy for that?!
Why then instead of climatology did they not study investment banking in college?

"Science has been no less politicized than anything else." AG

Italo Benin PhD says cultural standards for the criterion of truth evolve with human culture.
In some pre-literate cultures for example, truth was determined by religious authority, or by monarchic edict.

In 3rd Millennium U.S. culture, the criterion of truth is science.

"Science has been no less politicized than anything else." AG

Corrupt politicians may abuse science to their own ends. But science is pure, even where imperfect.

"Politicians want science "proving" man made global warming and many scientists comply."

President Trump is a politician.
I thought President Trump denies anthropogenic climate change.

"I have a general rule of thumb. If it comes out of a lefties mouth it is assumed to be a lie"

No doubt.
It's called "confirmation bias". It is the small mind that believes it can lift itself up by putting others down.
 
sear said:
"Seriously you make Chauncey Gardiner look intelligent!!" M #36

Excellent.
Seriously.
Which 20 years?

Any reply that is not a two decade date range, or no reply will be proof that the point I'd have refuted if a responsive reply had been provided, is not valid. Thanks for making it so easy for me.
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Sorry mate but you speak in riddles most of the time!!

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tinfoil said:
The left don't care about scientists cooking the books. My best friend has a son who is employed in the scientific field as a molecular engineer. She said her son is such a believer in CAGW that he and his wife are going to forgo having children. She has asked me to help her understand the skeptic arguments so she can convince her son he doesn't need to sacrifice. I linked her up with some evidence of collusion between scientists such as the climategate emails where the scientists wrote about adjusting sea surface temps to get rid of the 40s blip. I sent them the link about Gates. Her son's response was that the two datasets (HADCRUT and NOAA) align very well. He doesn't care that the scientists colluded to adjust the past temps. He just didn't care. I have to tell her I think there's no hope of changing his mind when he ignores a whistleblower from the source he cites. He also continues to cite skepticalscience despite the site owner being a dubious researcher.
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Lmao 😂
 
2013 paper in Environmental Research Letters reviewed 11,944 abstracts of scientific papers matching "global warming" or "global climate change". They found 4,014 which discussed the cause of recent global warming, and of these "97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming".

Now 3-2-1 for stupid right wingers to make an inapt Hillary election poll analogy.😅
 
Today’s challenge is to manage and meet growing worldwide demand for energy while addressing climate change and other environmental and social issues

BP

😅
 
The two key headlines from today's IPCC report were:

• Scientists are 95% certain that human are responsible for the 'unprecedented' warming experienced by the Earth over the last few decades

• Global temperatures are likely to rise by 0.3C to 4.8C, by the end of the century depending on how much governments control carbon emissions

Ipcc
 
"Chevron shares the concerns of governments and the public about climate change risks and recognizes that the use of fossil fuels to meet the world’s energy needs contributes to the rising concentration of greenhouse gases (GHGs) in Earth’s atmosphere. GHGs contribute to increases in global temperature"

Chevron

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Micawber said:
Climate change deniers are no different than creationists.
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How original, are you always so stupid? This is Richard Lindzen's opening statement in the House of Commons in 2012.


"Stated briefly, I will simply try to clarify what the debate over climate change is really about. It most certainly is not about whether climate is changing: it always is. It is not about whether CO2 is increasing: it clearly is. It is not about whether the increase in CO2, by itself, will lead to some warming: it should. The debate is simply over the matter of how much warming the increase in CO2 can lead to, and the connection of such warming to the innumerable claimed catastrophes. The evidence is that the increase in CO2 will lead to very little warming, and that the connection of this minimal warming (or even significant warming) to the purported catastrophes is also minimal. The arguments on which the catastrophic claims are made are extremely weak – and commonly acknowledged as such. They are sometimes overtly dishonest."

https://americanelephant.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/richard-lindzen-speaks-to-the-house-of-commons/




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Micawber said:
2013 paper in Environmental Research Letters reviewed 11,944 abstracts of scientific papers matching "global warming" or "global climate change". They found 4,014 which discussed the cause of recent global warming, and of these "97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming".

Now 3-2-1 for stupid right wingers to make an inapt Hillary election poll analogy.😅
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Holy fuck, how many times will ignorant arseholes refer to that totally discredited John Cook study?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/05...ot-based-on-any-credible-research-whatsoever/

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/05...sting-that-it-agw-is-a-weaker-case-today-not/
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Milagro said:
That is truly one of the most ignorant statements ever, you must be so proud.

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"Chevron shares the concerns of governments and the public about climate change risks and recognizes that the use of fossil fuels to meet the world’s energy needs contributes to the rising concentration of greenhouse gases (GHGs) in Earth’s atmosphere. GHGs contribute to increases in global temperature"
 
Micawber said:
The two key headlines from today's IPCC report were:

• Scientists are 95% certain that human are responsible for the 'unprecedented' warming experienced by the Earth over the last few decades

• Global temperatures are likely to rise by 0.3C to 4.8C, by the end of the century depending on how much governments control carbon emissions

Ipcc
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By "unprecedented", do you mean it's never been this warm or warmer at any time in the past?
 
Milagro said:
Holy fuck, how many times will ignorant arseholes refer to that totally discredited John Cook study?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/05...ot-based-on-any-credible-research-whatsoever/

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/05...sting-that-it-agw-is-a-weaker-case-today-not/
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"Whether people 'believe in' climate change, like whether they 'believe in' evolution, expresses who they are," writes Kahan.
 
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