That 15 minutes went fast.

Thing1 said:
And the Trump train is a calm, sane one then?
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It's tough to govern when you are undermined by the press/John McCain and the Democrats.
He either makes it or doesn't -but at least he's not a fascist intolerant like the Dems
 
anatta said:
It's tough to govern when you are undermined by the press/John McCain and the Democrats.
He either makes it or doesn't -but at least he's not a fascist intolerant like the Dems
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Oh, wow - the poor thing! He actually has people who disagree w/ him and oppose him? I can't remember the last President who had to deal w/ something like that. What a hardship.
 
Thing1 said:
Oh, wow - the poor thing! He actually has people who disagree w/ him and oppose him? I can't remember the last President who had to deal w/ something like that. What a hardship.
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there is the opposition and there is the mindless #resistance.
Plus his own party is infected with McCain types + the press is a running dog of the Dems
 
anatta said:
It's tough to govern when you are undermined by the press/John McCain and the Democrats.
He either makes it or doesn't -but at least he's not a fascist intolerant like the Dems
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You probably shouldn't go down the path complaining about this President being undermined.
 
domer76 said:
You probably shouldn't go down the path complaining about this President being undermined.
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sure I can/will. I excoriated the Republicans for doing the same to Obama.
But Obama wasn't getting spurious IC "conclusions" leaks/ a hostile press/and the McCains at the same time.
It's a matter of degree, but those are bigly factors
 
anatta said:
sure I can/will. I excoriated the Republicans for doing the same to Obama.
But Obama wasn't getting spurious IC "conclusions" leaks/ a hostile press/and the McCains at the same time.
It's a matter of degree, but those are bigly factors
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When you continuously shit on an entity (IC), you should probably expect some push back. That demonstrates just one portion of Orangetweet's inadequacy as President.

McCain is but one senator making his observations. It's that he's the same Party is what pisses the Trumptards off.

Obama had a hostile CONGRESS. Which do you think hinders a President more? Someone who writes bad words, albeit TRUE words, about you or those who set filibuster records?
 
anatta said:
sure I can/will. I excoriated the Republicans for doing the same to Obama.
But Obama wasn't getting spurious IC "conclusions" leaks/ a hostile press/and the McCains at the same time.
It's a matter of degree, but those are bigly factors
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McCain is ONE GUY. Every President has their hardships & opposition. Obama had the drumbeat of talk radio every day, the birther movement, a Congress openly determined to obstruct. He had opposition in his own party on many issues.

It comes w/ the job. You & Trump need to stop whining. It's not an easy gig.
 
domer76 said:
When you continuously shit on an entity (IC), you should probably expect some push back. That demonstrates just one portion of Orangetweet's inadequacy as President.

McCain is but one senator making his observations. It's that he's the same Party is what pisses the Trumptards off.

Obama had a hostile CONGRESS. Which do you think hinders a President more? Someone who writes bad words, albeit TRUE words, about you or those who set filibuster records?
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Obama had a complaint congress in the beginning. He lost any desire to try to legislate and went for a "pen and a phone" instead -that's why his record is being overturned.

You are defending the IC -leakage and spurious reports because they got butthurt?
Does the IC serve the POTUS or not? Do we have a Republic or a deep state?

McCain is more then one Seantor by all accounts -serving the deep state ..

Yes I agree the Tweets give the hostile press yet more fodder-and Trump is guilty of that.
The erst is mindless opposition/ butthurt,and Long Knives
 
anatta said:
Obama had a complaint congress in the beginning. He lost any desire to try to legislate and went for a "pen and a phone" instead -that's why his record is being overturned.

You are defending the IC -leakage and spurious reports because they got butthurt?
Does the IC serve the POTUS or not? Do we have a Republic or a deep state?

McCain is more then one Seantor by all accounts -serving the deep state ..

Yes I agree the Tweets give the hostile press yet more fodder-and Trump is guilty of that.
The erst is mindless opposition/ butthurt,and Long Knives
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Obama had a short window with Congress to get his agenda through. That you dismiss the record number of Senate filibusters and the record number of ACA repeal attempts by the House is telling.

I'm not taking a stance on the leaks one way or another. I'm talking about reality. What the fuck did you or Trump think would happen when he shit all over the competency and integrity of the intelligence community? That they would welcome him with open arms? Ever hear the phrase "you reap what you sow"?

The "deep state". Is that another one of the RW's new trite phrases these days? Along with "fake news". What? Wasn't "activist judges" sufficient for you guys? You need more conspiratorial bullshit to fan the flames?
 
Darth Omar said:
Given that those were the media's October numbers, yes! lol

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews....d-boosted-broad-disapproval/story?id=42993821
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Trump had a large lead at a singular point in the campaign, also. That doesn't mean that by election day, it's what Trump supporters presumed.

Hillary's lead shrank pretty fast after the Comey letter. It would be neat if you could find anyone here (or elsewhere) who was predicting a win of 10% or more on election eve.
 
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