Oh. My. God.

Dumb as a stump.

Where did I say I accept the entire theory of evolution?

I accept part of it, which I have repeated ad infinitum.


Yes you are as dumb as a stump.

I never said that you accept the entire theory of evolution??? I said, "You have unambiguously rejected a basic synopsis of the theory of evolution." It's not a minor point that you are disagreeing with.

Do you read each word individually or are you guessing at the content of my posts after recognizing the shape and form of a few words? I am not sure of the nature of your disability but it is clear that you and the PiMPle have some very severe comprehension problems.
 
Two unproven theories are not mutually exclusive. Pretty simple, and they can coexist without disproving each other.

You have no proof that the tenets of creationism coexist in reality with those of evolution. You cannot prove that as theories, they have equal weight.

Science and evolution which rely on observable data have a huge advantage over religion and creationism which rely on feelings, emotions and superstitions.

No contest and you cannot prove that the two are intertwined in any way, shape or form.
 
Yes you are as dumb as a stump.

I never said that you accept the entire theory of evolution??? I said, "You have unambiguously rejected a basic synopsis of the theory of evolution." It's not a minor point that you are disagreeing with.

Do you read each word individually or are you guessing at the content of my posts after recognizing the shape and form of a few words? I am not sure of the nature of your disability but it is clear that you and the PiMPle have some very severe comprehension problems.

You said:

You can't do that then claim to accept the theory of evolution.

And I never said I accept the theory of evolution. I said I accept part of it.
 
You have no proof that the tenets of creationism coexist in reality with those of evolution. You cannot prove that as theories, they have equal weight.

Science and evolution which rely on observable data have a huge advantage over religion and creationism which rely on feelings, emotions and superstitions.

No contest and you cannot prove that the two are intertwined in any way, shape or form.

And what did I say?

I said they are not mutually exclusive.

If you can disprove that I would be very interested.
 
You said:

And I never said I accept the theory of evolution. I said I accept part of it.

You did imply that you accept the theory of evolution while being a creationist. That was your entire point.

You completely reject the theory of evolution at a fundamental level.

What is your basis for rejecting that man has evolved? If man was created by a supernatural being then why not assume that that being created all things and controls all things?

As Einstein may have asked you, why bother entertaining cause and effect at all if you are not going to take it seriously? If you argue that there is a being that can set aside cause and effect substituting only his will then you have rejected science at a fundamental level.
 
Like Albert Einstein and his similarly weak mind, I believe in a Creator.

I am not a Calvinist, and do not believe my fate is pre-ordained by a Superior Being.

The funny thing is, by reducing my positions to a caricature of what you presume to all Creationists to be, you have made this discussion so easy for me by arguing like the caricatures your side inevitably proves to be.

You believe in magic ...You are a retard...
 
You did imply that you accept the theory of evolution while being a creationist. That was your entire point.

And you then reduced evolution to an all-or-nothing proposal. Which I reject. And I have at least 10 times already, so you may as well stop bringing it up.

The possibility that species evolved separate and apart from the Creation of man is not only possible, I'd call it probable.

No other species has evolved this quickly or as a far.

The ancient civilizations like that of the Egyptians appear to have emerged from a complete void of even primitive cultures. If this was the product of man evolving, it was a relative 0 to 60 in 2 seconds of evolutionary speed.

It's basically saying, "OK, this species of bird over here evolved a broader bill over 50,000 years, and in the same time period this species of ape developed a written language, architecture, mathematics, music, engineering..."

No, it's illogical.

And all of those civilizations recognized that some greater power brought them into existence, separating them from the beasts of the world. That can not be a coincidence either.

I don't say I know what happened. Nobody does. But SOMETHING happened significantly beyond the ordinary scope of species evolving. I think that's rather obvious in fact.
 
God has not been proven to be non-existent.

Socialism however, has proven to be a failure.


Socialism in it's many forms and manifestations is alive and well all over the world, including the good ole USA, liar...
That being said, prove anything supernatural, shitstain...
You don't really believe that shit ...you hope it is real so you can entertain your dream of living forever...
That is fucking truly retarded ...
 
And you then reduced evolution to an all-or-nothing proposal. Which I reject. And I have at least 10 times already, so you may as well stop bringing it up.

The possibility that species evolved separate and apart from the Creation of man is not only possible, I'd call it probable.

No other species has evolved this quickly or as a far.

The ancient civilizations like that of the Egyptians appear to have emerged from a complete void of even primitive cultures. If this was the product of man evolving, it was a relative 0 to 60 in 2 seconds of evolutionary speed.

It's basically saying, "OK, this species of bird over here evolved a broader bill over 50,000 years, and in the same time period this species of ape developed a written language, architecture, mathematics, music, engineering..."

No, it's illogical.

And all of those civilizations recognized that some greater power brought them into existence, separating them from the beasts of the world. That can not be a coincidence either.

I don't say I know what happened. Nobody does. But SOMETHING happened significantly beyond the ordinary scope of species evolving. I think that's rather obvious in fact.


I did not reduce it to an all or nothing proposal. I demonstrated that you reject evolution at a fundamental level. You have taken issue with a simple and common synopsis of the theory, not some minor detail. Whatever it is you believe, it is not the theory of evolution.

No other species has evolved this far or quickly??? Huh, I thought you said we did not evolve? Which is it?

How does one evolve "far"? What makes you think we have evolved more "quickly" and how is it possible that we did that without evolving?

You are obviously showing some basic misunderstanding of evolution and appear to be suggesting that man is the end result or "farthest" result evolution has reached while you claim we have not evolved (fuck your cognitive dissonance must be unbearable).

"OK, this species of bird over here evolved a broader bill over 50,000 years, and in the same time period this species of ape developed a written language, architecture, mathematics, music, engineering..."

Wait, you think that architecture was brought to us through an evolutionary process? I mean, the skillset was brought to us by an evolutionary process, but the actual practice is not a product of evolution.

Did beavers evolve into architects? Lots of animals demonstrate music skills (whales, dolphins, birds, etc), language skills (koko) etc. We still don't know for sure what animals know so you are mostly just speculating here about our "unique" abilities. None of your speculation has anything to do with science or testable and observable data.

If humans have not evolved then one would expect that we would not have those traits that indicate evolution in other animals. Yet, we share all the signs of common descent with apes, primates, mammals, vertebrates, etc that any other member of those groups displays. For instance, human fossils show signs of evolution just as the fossils of any other species shows signs of evolution. Our dna proves common ancestry just as it proves it with any other species. The facts of bio geography support our evolution just as it supports the evolution of other species.

There is no scientific reason to suppose that we alone did not evolve.

You are using illogical to mean anything that conflicts with your preconceived ignorance. You have not even bothered to identify any problem in the logic.

The only problem in logic here is your contradictory claims that we have evolved farther and more quickly than any other species but did not evolve at all.
 
I did not reduce it to an all or nothing proposal. I demonstrated that you reject evolution at a fundamental level.

No, I don't. I accept the possibility of the evolution of every form of life on this planet except for one. And for that, you say I reject the entire premise.

Enough of your nonsense already.
 
No, I don't. I accept the possibility of the evolution of every form of life on this planet except for one. And for that, you say I reject the entire premise.

Enough of your nonsense already.

You believe humans are magical...You believe in fucking magic ... Nothing could be more nonsensical...
Earth to Taft; You will not live forever...
 
You are obviously showing some basic misunderstanding of evolution and appear to be suggesting that man is the end result or "farthest" result evolution has reached while you claim we have not evolved (fuck your cognitive dissonance must be unbearable).



Wait, you think that architecture was brought to us through an evolutionary process? I mean, the skillset was brought to us by an evolutionary process, but the actual practice is not a product of evolution.

No, you really can't be this dumb.

If I take trombone lessons does that mean I've gone through a stage of evolution?

Learning is not evolving.

I'm discussing man's capacity to learn, which you clearly can not cite a species with an equal capacity.
 
No, you really can't be this dumb.

If I take trombone lessons does that mean I've gone through a stage of evolution?

Learning is not evolving.

I'm discussing man's capacity to learn, which you clearly can not cite a species with an equal capacity.

You are retarded...
Do you still believe in Santa ?
 
No, I don't. I accept the possibility of the evolution of every form of life on this planet except for one. And for that, you say I reject the entire premise.

Enough of your nonsense already.

The premise is that "all living things are related through common descent and have reached their present form through natural processes." You reject the entire premise.

Have you figured out how it could be that we have evolved farther and more quickly than any other species even though you claim it is not possible that we have evolved? I mean, it might be just me, but it seems those two points disagree with one another.
 
No, you really can't be this dumb.

If I take trombone lessons does that mean I've gone through a stage of evolution?

Learning is not evolving.

I'm discussing man's capacity to learn, which you clearly can not cite a species with an equal capacity.

Totally irrelevant to anything.
 
No, you really can't be this dumb.

If I take trombone lessons does that mean I've gone through a stage of evolution?

Learning is not evolving.

I'm discussing man's capacity to learn, which you clearly can not cite a species with an equal capacity.

Liar.

No other species has evolved this quickly or as a far.

You have proven to be a complete and total idiot. You offer what you believe to be our extensive evolution as proof that we have not evolved. And you are a cop? God, help us!
 
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