Week 3, Vacation #2.. how much does it cost?

Christie, you mused about Obama earlier....so a little insight....

WASHINGTON — Less than three months into President Obama’s first term, a top White House national security official told reporters that the new commander in chief’s diplomacy would be different from the regular-guy friendships with foreign leaders sought by President George W. Bush.

No longer would the goal be “to establish some, you know, buddy-buddy relationship,” said the official, Michael A. McFaul.

The lack of such a relationship was starkly evident in Washington last week, when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel took the extraordinary step of de nouncing Mr. Obama’s Iran policy in a speech to a joint meeting of Congress. The president responded icily hours later from the Oval Office. The two did not meet face to face.

Mr. Obama’s strained association with Mr. Netanyahu, who has clashed with other American presidents as well, has been difficult from the start. But the absence of any real connection between them underscores the rule, not the exception, for Mr. Obama, who has only occasionally invested time in cultivating foreign leaders.

It is a cool, businesslike approach, similar to the way Mr. Obama deals with members of Congress, donors and activists at home. But historians and some of the president’s former foreign policy advisers say the distance the president keeps from foreign leaders leaves him without the durable relationships that previous presidents forged to help smooth disagreements and secure reluctant cooperation.

“Personal relationships are not his style,” said Martin S. Indyk, a former special envoy for Middle East peace in the Obama administration who is now vice president of the Brookings Institution. Mr. Indyk said Mr. Bush and President Bill Clinton “yukked it up with everybody.”

“With Obama, some he invested in, some he clicked with,” Mr. Indyk said. “But you could count them on one hand.”

White House officials say that while warm relationships may be desirable, they do not necessarily lead to success in American foreign policy, and that Mr. Obama has made headway without them.

“The president is driven by an assessment of our interests in dealing with world leaders,” said Benjamin J. Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser to Mr. Obama. “It’s more about how do you get off the talking points with somebody, see where they are coming from.”

Mr. Rhodes pointed out that Mr. Obama has methodically assembled support from like-minded leaders for sanctions against Russia for its actions in Ukraine, for the fight against the Islamic State, and in some cases to confront climate change.

Robert Dallek, a historian who has written extensively on the American presidency, called Mr. Obama a “cool customer” and said he appears not to exude the kind of warmth that characterized the relationships between Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher or between Franklin D. Roosevelt and Winston Churchill.

“If a foreign leader connects with another head of government, it can be salutary in helping them work through difficulties or problems that may exist,” Mr. Dallek said. “If they have a lot of animus toward each other, it impedes the diplomatic give-and-take.”

Churchill spent several weeks at the White House bonding with Roosevelt after the attack on Pearl Harbor, a time that Mr. Dallek said helped them form “a kind of comfort zone” that deepened the already strong relationship between the United States and Britain during World War II.

Aides say it is unlikely that a friendship between Mr. Obama and Mr. Netanyahu could ease the fundamental disagreement the two have over how to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. But former advisers say the hard feelings have made the rift worse.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/11/us/politics/with-foreign-leaders-obama-keeps-it-mostly-business.html?_r=0


Guess Obama didn't make many friends...
 
"Locals are bitching about the negative impact these visits are having on their businesses. Local hotels are sick of all the cancellations they keep having and restaurants and shops are upset about the lack Of tourists." That was the comment I was responding too. Have no idea where foreign leaders came from.

I don't think Obama made many 'friends' with foreign leaders.....imo. He was too arrogant and aloof....
 
He doesn't have to play golf with the guy. He can entertain him other ways.

And saying he's entertaining him as a "gift" has an ick factor.

Perhaps the Japanese PM enjoys golf....what do you suggest.....Disneyworld, lawn darts.....

Have you never entertained a friend with dinner or something....why the 'ick' factor.....wtf does that even mean.

Honey, you're becoming more deranged by the day......
 
"Mr. Obama’s own efforts to get closer to prime ministers and his fellow presidents have ended with largely disappointing results."

If we go by trump's comments to the PMs etc. of Mexico and Australia, he's heading down a bumpy path also.
 
Perhaps the Japanese PM enjoys golf....what do you suggest.....Disneyworld, lawn darts.....

Have you never entertained a friend with dinner or something....why the 'ick' factor.....wtf does that even mean.

Honey, you're becoming more deranged by the day......

:rolleyes: I'm suggesting he take him somewhere in DC, or maybe Camp David. Is that so hard to understand?
 
"Mr. Obama’s own efforts to get closer to prime ministers and his fellow presidents have ended with largely disappointing results."

If we go by trump's comments to the PMs etc. of Mexico and Australia, he's heading down a bumpy path also.
Australia is vastly disputed -although I would be pissedif I had to take in that bunch of Pacific terrorists Obama negotiated for.
Mexico will get over it.
http://pamelageller.com/2016/12/oba...gives-ok-australia-rejects-terror-spots.html/
President Obama and his top administrative staffers, in what’s being described as an unprecedented move, have agreed to allow 2,465 refugees from terrorism hotspots into the United States, after Australia rejected them.

What’s more, Obama’s State Department is granting the refugees classified status, so even Congress can’t get details on their backgrounds.
 
Australia is vastly disputed -although I would be pissedif I had to take in that bunch of Pacific terrorists Obama negotiated for.
Mexico will get over it.
http://pamelageller.com/2016/12/oba...gives-ok-australia-rejects-terror-spots.html/

Geez, Pamela Geller...

"She's relentlessly shrill and coarse in her broad-brush denunciations of Islam and makes preposterous claims, such as that President Obama is the "love child" of Malcolm X. She makes no pretense of being learned in Islamic studies, leaving the argumentative heavy lifting to her Stop Islamization of America partner Robert Spencer. Geller has mingled comfortably with European racists and fascists, spoken favorably of South African racists, defended Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic and denied the existence of Serbian concentration camps. She has taken a strong pro-Israel stance to the point of being sharply critical of Jewish liberals."
 
:rolleyes: I'm suggesting he take him somewhere in DC, or maybe Camp David. Is that so hard to understand?

Was it too hard to understand that maybe the PM enjoys a little golf....a little warm weather....

Who the hell are you tell others how or where they should entertain their guests....what the hell difference does it make to you....

its none of your business.....
 
"Locals are bitching about the negative impact these visits are having on their businesses. Local hotels are sick of all the cancellations they keep having and restaurants and shops are upset about the lack Of tourists." That was the comment I was responding too. Have no idea where foreign leaders came from.

Then that applies to any president going anywhere, not just Martha's Vineyard.
 
Was it too hard to understand that maybe the PM enjoys a little golf....a little warm weather....

Who the hell are you tell others how or where they should entertain their guests....what the hell difference does it make to you....

its none of your business.....

It's my business if tax dollars are going to pay for these junkets. Maybe you don't pay taxes.
 
Geez, Pamela Geller...

"She's relentlessly shrill and coarse in her broad-brush denunciations of Islam and makes preposterous claims, such as that President Obama is the "love child" of Malcolm X. She makes no pretense of being learned in Islamic studies, leaving the argumentative heavy lifting to her Stop Islamization of America partner Robert Spencer. Geller has mingled comfortably with European racists and fascists, spoken favorably of South African racists, defended Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic and denied the existence of Serbian concentration camps. She has taken a strong pro-Israel stance to the point of being sharply critical of Jewish liberals."

From Fox News: (hotlinked)

“When staffers probed the number of individuals being considered for resettlement, they were told it was ‘classified,’ even though refugee admissions are traditionally public. Officials, however, did confirm countries of origin to be Iran, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq and Sudan, as well as some deemed ‘stateless.’

“Iran, Sudan and Syria are the three countries on the U.S. current State Sponsors of Terrorism list. But Barnett said the ‘stateless’ category is most worrisome.

“These could be Burmese Muslims, who have posed assimilation issues for every nation which has taken them,’ said Barnett. ‘It’s a dangerous precedent which says, ‘We’ll take any ethnic group with which you don’t get along.'”
 
Geez, Pamela Geller...

"She's relentlessly shrill and coarse in her broad-brush denunciations of Islam and makes preposterous claims, such as that President Obama is the "love child" of Malcolm X. She makes no pretense of being learned in Islamic studies, leaving the argumentative heavy lifting to her Stop Islamization of America partner Robert Spencer. Geller has mingled comfortably with European racists and fascists, spoken favorably of South African racists, defended Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic and denied the existence of Serbian concentration camps. She has taken a strong pro-Israel stance to the point of being sharply critical of Jewish liberals."

Anatta's post wasn't about Geller.....if you didn't like the source, try this one....why do pinheads always do that.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...awmakers-questioning-secret-refugee-deal.html
 
Perhaps the Japanese PM enjoys golf....what do you suggest.....Disneyworld, lawn darts.....

Have you never entertained a friend with dinner or something....why the 'ick' factor.....wtf does that even mean.

Honey, you're becoming more deranged by the day......

Congressional Golf Course in Bethesda, Maryland.
 
presidents play golf..( I think it's an electoral requirement! :) )

I have absolutely no concerns about Presidents playing golf, unless they spent the last 8 years complaining about the previous president playing golf. Its the sign of demented person.
 
Was it too hard to understand that maybe the PM enjoys a little golf....a little warm weather....

Who the hell are you tell others how or where they should entertain their guests....what the hell difference does it make to you....

its none of your business.....

She is paying for it.

Plus its just fun because Rump spent 8 years complaining about the President playing golf.
 
Lol, Faux is better than Geller? How about the Red Cross?

Refugees in Australia

Know the people, know the facts

https://www.redcross.org.au/campaigns/refugees.aspx?gclid=CPznlYzgg9ICFdqNswodumALwA


Never did care for the Red Cross...:)

These people went to Australia for asylum....its not our problem .....

The Aussies won't even let them into the country.....people seem to think they have the right to invade any country and make demands, they don't.

but Trump did cave and took them in.
 
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