AGW and belief in God

sear said:
PS

" God gave us science " S #128

Religion, not god.

Perhaps the most brilliant scientist of all time, Sir Isaac Newton* was a religious man.
Newton gave us calculus.

Algebra came from Islam.

Sciences like fermentation (delicious wine) were developed at friaries, convents, etc.

Religion didn't part ways with science until science started contradicting (proving wrong) holy scripture. Galileo is often cited as the turning point.

* Newton, Sir Isaac (1642-1727), English mathematician and physicist, considered one of the greatest scientists in history. Born in Lincolnshire, Newton was educated at Trinity College at the University of Cambridge, and became Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at the university. In 1696 he moved to London, where he supervised the Royal Mint and, in 1703, became president of the Royal Society.

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God gave us everything. Calm down, get a job, get a life, check the ego, float on down to earth with the rest of us, give up strife and live in peace.
 
"So now, you agree with "drill baby, drill"." Bd #140

My posted comment was:

"I'm such an unbridled, strident advocate for abundant cheap energy !!" #132

I never said it had to be fossil fuel, or even that it had to be carbon-based. Read Jeremy Rifkin's The Hydrogen Economy.

He describes an energy infrastructure that's nearly carbon-free.

"Got it!" Bd #140

I never doubted it.
Perhaps if you go to the VD clinic, they can cure it.
 
Bigdog said:
Stupid fucks like Sear, have no clue that cheap energy is the reason we have a fantastic technological modern society.

Without the oil companies, we would still be killing whales to light our houses, and stripping forests for fire wood to heat our homes. And billions more humans would live in poverty stricken socialists shitholes. .... er I mean ... Libtopia.
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By definition every great advancement was radical, and every attempt to put the kibosh on them were conservative. We get credit for all the science tech and advancement. You get credit for inquisition, climate science denial, flat earth, and every grotesquery imaginable, you disgusting filthy fat slob.
 
What does AGW have to do with 'God'? Leave people's religion out of this long-going debate. I could give two shits what people believe, science doesn't give a shit either.
 
PS

"God gave us everything." S #141

And that's why I love my Chevy Vega so much!

"Calm down, get a job, get a life, check the ego, float on down to earth with the rest of us, give up strife and live in peace." S #141

You've NAILED it!!

You are so right!!
That is PRECISELY the formula I used to get where I am today.

And you're right again! The rewards of following that formula as you present it are manifold.
 
Micawber said:
By definition every great advancement was radical, and every attempt to put the kibosh on them were conservative. We get credit for all the science tech and advancement. You get credit for inquisition, climate science denial, flat earth, and every grotesquery imaginable, you disgusting filthy fat slob.
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Following your logic, human sacrifice that is practiced by the leftwing, is really conservative.

The Homosexual dominance of pre-Helenistic Greece means conservatives own homosexuality. You are ridiculous.
 
sear said:
"So now, you agree with "drill baby, drill"." Bd #140

My posted comment was:

"I'm such an unbridled, strident advocate for abundant cheap energy !!" #132

I never said it had to be fossil fuel, or even that it had to be carbon-based. Read Jeremy Rifkin's The Hydrogen Economy.

He describes an energy infrastructure that's nearly carbon-free.

"Got it!" Bd #140

I never doubted it.
Perhaps if you go to the VD clinic, they can cure it.
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So you're NOT really for cheap energy.

Got it!
 
sear said:
R #118

Please don't be silly R.

Zeus is not Vishnu
Thor is not Jehovah
Poseidon is not Shiva

It may be true that there's more overlap between the Holy Bible and the Holy Qur'an than some might wish to acknowledge. BUT !! Would you have us believe

Allah is Christ?
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Would you have us believe that Islam Christianity and Judaism are not Abrahamic faiths?

Would you have us believe that Tor and Wodin are not father and son?
 
Dick from the Internet said:
Don't care. Your faith risks eternal damnation according to some religions just as my non belief. The fact that you have created your own faith to support your circular nonsense actually refutes Pascal's wager, and presents another opportunity cost which he failed to consider.
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Belief in a singular power greater than one's self is hardly creating one's own faith
 
Bigdog said:
Following your logic, human sacrifice that is practiced by the leftwing, is really conservative.

The Homosexual dominance of pre-Helenistic Greece means conservatives own homosexuality. You are ridiculous.
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Yes, fool. ANY radical change IS definitionally radical. Every attempt to thwart it is conservative, fat ugly slob. If you believe that the change in human advancement over time is beneficial, then you should be a liberal. If you have a dark bleak worldview and fear, and for example pine for 13th century values, you are a REPUBLICAN Luddite superstitious PIG!

Fact.
 
sear said:
"humans are responsible for global warming just like they were 150,000 years ago and 300,000 years ago and 450,000 years ago......" PP #121

Thank you so much for making this important and completely bogus point!

I've read no comment here that claims that Earth's climate has never changed. If you think otherwise, please post the quotation with link. Thanks.

Instead, the scientific consensus is not merely that Earth's climate is changing at an alarming rate. Current news cites the example as the huge crack developing in our polar ice, and if the ice separating from the ice cap becomes an iceberg, it'll according to professor Rosemary Armeo be the largest iceberg ever known to humankind.

Our climate is not static. It is dynamic. The term "the ice age" is familiar in our lexicon. It's a misnomer. Earth has had numerous ice ages. Earth's climate varies. Earth's top climatologists will swear to it.

The issue in this thread is ANTHROPOGENIC climate change. It's not merely that it's warming. That alone would be cause for concern. It's that it's warming BECAUSE of human industry.

Do the cost benefit analysis. Is clinging to a non-scientific delusion by denying it worth dying for? Even if they're wrong, is having cleaner air and water really such a severe penalty to pay for switching from coal burning commercial power to wind turbines and solar farms?

We can decentralize the grid!

We can render the entire nation less vulnerable to sabotage, to terrorist mayhem, if 40% or more of U.S. homes have their own in situ power generating capacity.

You think being MORE secure is a BAD thing ?! Are you with al Qaida ?!
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Not to mention trade deficits and National security
 
Bigdog said:
Any Al Gorian want to explain "tree ring divergence"? ... are you even aware of it? IN proper scientific methodology, you don't splice together proxy data with instrument data. That is a huge no no.

You want to tell me why You Cherry Pick the end of the Little Ice Age as the beginning of AGW?

You want to explain why Global Warming "paused" for the last 18-19 years proving all YOUR computer models wrong?
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Simple.
It didn't.
 
"So you're NOT really for cheap energy.
Got it!" BD #147

"I'm such an unbridled, strident advocate for abundant cheap energy !!" sear #132

I didn't realize how profoundly mentally impaired you are.

Obviously abstract concepts like absolute obvious logical opposites are beyond your capacity to comprehend, differentiate.

So tell us Bd. What's your favorite brand of crayon?
 
Micawber said:
Yes, fool. ANY radical change IS definitionally radical. Every attempt to thwart it is conservative, fat ugly slob. If you believe that the change in human advancement over time is beneficial, then you should be a liberal. If you have a dark bleak worldview and fear, and for example pine for 13th century values, you are a REPUBLICAN Luddite superstitious PIG!

Fact.
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It is leftwingers like you that promote, excuse, justify and support the spread of the 13th century beliefs of Islam, Doofus.

I see you could not support your contention that "old" equals conservative. Oh, well.
 
Bigdog said:
I seriously doubt that Al Gorians have even HEARD of Milankovitch cycles.

Climatology is one of the simplest sciences I've ever studied. Partly because it's still in its infancy. Climatologists are just glorified weathermen.
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Well the core requirements for admission to say Scripps requires all the hard core sciences and calc 1 and 2, physics with lab, chem with lab, extra year of either chem or physics.

And atmospheric physicists would disagree that the weather is simple science. Your comments are less than scintillating. Yes pun intended.
 
NOVA said:
They have yet to explain away PMP's post....sarcastic as it was....

"humans are responsible for global warming just like they were 150,000 years ago and 300,000 years ago and 450,000 years ago...:)
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Another easy one.
The point is our actions are making it worse
 
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