AGW and belief in God

It's an obvious fallacy. Tsuke pointed out why. Opportunity costs.

I don't think you believe that one can be saved by pretending to be a Christian the way Trump does. It requires a sincere belief and actions that do represent a cost.

True, although I don't see Douchebag Donald as even pretending. The Evangelicals just adore him, for whatever reason. I do think that pretending is a core feature of the Anglicans, however.
 
The Al Gorians are unable to comprehend that periods like the current interglacial period are relatively short lived. I know this chart will be shocking to Al Gorians ... IF they can read it.

Vostok ice core data ...

Vostok-ice-core-petit.png

Climate science denial fits in perfectly with all the other prejudices the elite have against you unwashed, uneducated, rural, superstitious Republican trash. Take every backward ass and distasteful belief and glom it all together, its basically the Republican party official platform.
 
It's an obvious fallacy. Tsuke pointed out why. Opportunity costs.

I don't think you believe that one can be saved by pretending to be a Christian the way Trump does. It requires a sincere belief and actions that do represent a cost.

YOU are going to let tsuke speak for you?
Don't lower yourself Rick.
 
True, although I don't see Douchebag Donald as even pretending. The Evangelicals just adore him, for whatever reason. I do think that pretending is a core feature of the Anglicans, however.


Then you should see that Pascal's wager is fallacious as he failed to account for all the "costs" associated with faith.

I don't feel any guilt for having sex outside of marriage. I will never have to sell my daughter to her rapists. I don't have to make my wife camp out in the yard during her period like you do either. But more importantly, I don't have to deny science.

Of course, most of you don't think you should really bet on your ridiculous beliefs and Pascal's wager is treated as little more than tongue in cheek nonsense.
 
Then you should see that Pascal's wager is fallacious as he failed to account for all the "costs" associated with faith.

I don't feel any guilt for having sex outside of marriage. I will never have to sell my daughter to her rapists. I don't have to make my wife camp out in the yard during her period like you do either. But more importantly, I don't have to deny science.

Of course, most of you don't think you should really bet on your ridiculous beliefs and Pascal's wager is treated as little more than tongue in cheek nonsense.

Pascal addressed the cost of belief as minimal.
Tsuke described the cost as restraint from amoral behavior.
Perhaps you should have considered his entire statement as it was stupid
 
Calculate the total quantity of petroleum produced in 20th Century.

Expressed in Cubic Feet (iow: cubic area) (not in Joules nor BTUs etc)

NOTE:
1 Cubic Feet = 7.48052 US Liquid Gallon

Factoid:
Fossil fuels [oil, coal, natural gas] hydro, solar, and nuclear power are referred to as primary energy.
World consumption of primary energy increased from 1965 to 2007: 3.8 billion tonnes of oil equivalent to 11.1 billion tonnes of oil equivalent.

NOTE:
The barrel of oil equivalent (BOE) is a unit of energy based on the approximate energy released by burning one barrel (42 U.S. gallons or 158.9873 litres) of crude oil.

So, if we can calculate the cubic feet of petrol taken out of earth + coal extracted .... and then compare that Cubic Feet of Mass to known masses ....it will paint a better picture of the ratio of:
cubic feet of the earth's atmosphere versus
versus
cubic feet of all the gallons and coal volume extracted



NOTE:
Total Water on Earth = 332,500,000 cubic miles (mi3) (1,386,000,000 cubic kilometers (km3)).

Total Atmosphere of Earth = 3,095 cubic miles (12,900 cubic km).
http://www.ecology.com/2011/09/14/earth-glance/

Other source:
All the water in the world (1.4087 billion cubic kilometres of it) including sea water, ice, lakes, rivers, ground water, clouds, etc.
All the air in the atmosphere (5140 trillion tonnes of it) [At sea level, a cubic foot of atmosphere weighs about an ounce and a quarter].

MY POINT ---my Speculation:
All the petrol extracted from the ground is a Hoax. I speculate that motor petrol, gasoline is 99% laboratory-made concoctions.
Bio-fuel technology has made Oil drilling obsolete and unnecessary ... maybe I wrong ---so, I'd adjust and say that a gallon of crude oil can yield 100,000 gallons of high-octane gas good enough for most uses.

Dude
Can I get drugs like you use and not end up a junkie bitch like anatta?
'Cause you are high as a kite.
 
The cost of being a Christian is minimal.

The cost is at least as high as non belief. Your faith in Christ risks your eternal damnation according to several other faiths which you could have chosen to follow. That's an opportunity cost.

Pascal's wager is a joke and fallacious for lots of reason "opportunity costs" is the most obvious.
 
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Pascal addressed the cost of belief as minimal.



By ignoring all the costs associated.

Tsuke described the cost as restraint from amoral behavior.
Perhaps you should have considered his entire statement as it was stupid

I responded to his entire statement and pointed out that the cost is the rejection of reason, not morality.

Tsuke's argument seems fallacious in it's own right assuming that the Bible's moral code is correct but he is right about the opportunity costs.
 
The cost is at least as high as non belief. Your faith in Christ risks your eternal damnation according to several other faiths which you could have chosen to follow. That's an opportunity cost.

Pascal's wager is a joke and fallacious for lots of reason "opportunity costs" is the most obvious.

I disagree.
I believe that all religions represent the same God.
 
By ignoring all the costs associated.



I responded to his entire statement and pointed out that the cost is the rejection of reason, not morality.

Tsuke's argument seems fallacious in it's own right assuming that the Bible's moral code is correct but he is right about the opportunity costs.

So now you rebuff Tsuke's stupid comment?
 
By ignoring all the costs associated.



I responded to his entire statement and pointed out that the cost is the rejection of reason, not morality.

Tsuke's argument seems fallacious in it's own right assuming that the Bible's moral code is correct but he is right about the opportunity costs.

No.
Opportunity costs could be applicable to green energy (except it would be incorrect) but not to faith.
 
Quote Originally Posted by sear
b) Why do they always hit trailer parks?

"good lord....." PP


Good aim?

“The debate between science and religion ended when churches put lightning rods on their steeples.” shiftless2
 
Then you should see that Pascal's wager is fallacious as he failed to account for all the "costs" associated with faith.

I don't feel any guilt for having sex outside of marriage. I will never have to sell my daughter to her rapists. I don't have to make my wife camp out in the yard during her period like you do either. But more importantly, I don't have to deny science.

Of course, most of you don't think you should really bet on your ridiculous beliefs and Pascal's wager is treated as little more than tongue in cheek nonsense.

Again this is not true.
Pascal defended his statement that the cost of faith is minimal.
 
I disagree.
I believe that all religions represent the same God.

Yes, I see that and you're wrong.

That is circular nonsense which makes your wager meaningless. Apparently you think you are only at risk if you do not believe whatever it is you wanted to believe.
 
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Please don't be silly R.

Zeus is not Vishnu
Thor is not Jehovah
Poseidon is not Shiva

It may be true that there's more overlap between the Holy Bible and the Holy Qur'an than some might wish to acknowledge. BUT !! Would you have us believe

Allah is Christ?
 
You have proof that my faith is wrong?
Please provide it.


Don't care. Your faith risks eternal damnation according to some religions just as my non belief. The fact that you have created your own faith to support your circular nonsense actually refutes Pascal's wager, and presents another opportunity cost which he failed to consider.
 
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