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Jarod

Jarod

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With the Court System stoping Trump's "executive order" in its tracks and illustrating a limit to his perceived absolute power I have been watching all weekend to see what happens next.

I was concerned that Trump would refuse to follow the rule of law and would instruct his administration to enforce the travel ban, despite the ruling, the Administration has obeyed the rule of law. I don't know if that was due to Trump's instruction or their own patriotism, but it is a good sign.

There are many indications that Trump does not understand or care about the separation of powers and that he was going to attempt to rule by decree as a king. It appears that, at least in this instance, he will bow to the power of the judiciary when they say he has overstepped his bounds. It is a good sign that my primary concerns of totalitarianism are, at least for the moment premature.
 
Nomad said:
Someone is sitting on him.
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The Washington Post has a series of articles about this, one particularly interesting story is about Bannon going to the DHS secretary and instructing him NOT to issue a waiver for Green Card holders, the DHS secretary refused and told Bannon he only takes orders like that from the President himself and instructed Bannon to have the President call him, the president did not call.
 
I think Bannon is trying to egg him on while others are trying to sit on him. It seems trump is lost and just goes with whoever is with him at the time.


I do think, so far, the cabinet heads seem to at least care about the rule of law.
 
Jarod said:
With the Court System stoping Trump's "executive order" in its tracks and illustrating a limit to his perceived absolute power I have been watching all weekend to see what happens next.

I was concerned that Trump would refuse to follow the rule of law and would instruct his administration to enforce the travel ban, despite the ruling, the Administration has obeyed the rule of law. I don't know if that was due to Trump's instruction or their own patriotism, but it is a good sign.

There are many indications that Trump does not understand or care about the separation of powers and that he was going to attempt to rule by decree as a king. It appears that, at least in this instance, he will bow to the power of the judiciary when they say he has overstepped his bounds. It is a good sign that my primary concerns of totalitarianism are, at least for the moment premature.
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The judiciary has no power. Trump should tell them to fuck off

The judiciary has now power to enforce their rulings. ZERO
 
Jarod said:
With the Court System stoping Trump's "executive order" in its tracks and illustrating a limit to his perceived absolute power I have been watching all weekend to see what happens next.

I was concerned that Trump would refuse to follow the rule of law and would instruct his administration to enforce the travel ban, despite the ruling, the Administration has obeyed the rule of law. I don't know if that was due to Trump's instruction or their own patriotism, but it is a good sign.

There are many indications that Trump does not understand or care about the separation of powers and that he was going to attempt to rule by decree as a king. It appears that, at least in this instance, he will bow to the power of the judiciary when they say he has overstepped his bounds. It is a good sign that my primary concerns of totalitarianism are, at least for the moment premature.
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Oh, I wouldn't take that as a good sign, jackass. There's still the issue of illegal entry into this country, which YOUR side shows no interest in stopping.

No, this backing off is just temporary. I'm not sure what Trump is going to do, but for me, I'd just go after all the assholes who aren't upholding the law and replace them with true supporters of the law.
 
I Love America said:
The judiciary has no power. Trump should tell them to fuck off

The judiciary has now power to enforce their rulings. ZERO
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The only power they have to enforce there rulings is the Constitution. You are correct, Trump could ignore the judiciary, if he could get the Cabinet heads to go along with ignoring the Constitution and 250 years of American agreement to the Rule of Law.

I suspect if Trump ignored the judiciary however, he would quickly be impeached.
 
Granule said:
Oh, I wouldn't take that as a good sign, jackass. There's still the issue of illegal entry into this country, which YOUR side shows no interest in stopping.

No, this backing off is just temporary. I'm not sure what Trump is going to do, but for me, I'd just go after all the assholes who aren't upholding the law and replace them with true supporters of the law.
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Looks to me like Trump has accessed to the Rule of Law and the Constitution of the United States.


Would you have him anoint himself king and ignore the Judicial branch?
 
Jarod said:
The only power they have to enforce there rulings is the Constitution. You are correct, Trump could ignore the judiciary, if he could get the Cabinet heads to go along with ignoring the Constitution and 250 years of American agreement to the Rule of Law.

I suspect if Trump ignored the judiciary however, he would quickly be impeached.
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Sure he could and immediately ve impeachable.
 
Jarod said:
With the Court System stoping Trump's "executive order" in its tracks and illustrating a limit to his perceived absolute power I have been watching all weekend to see what happens next.

I was concerned that Trump would refuse to follow the rule of law and would instruct his administration to enforce the travel ban, despite the ruling, the Administration has obeyed the rule of law. I don't know if that was due to Trump's instruction or their own patriotism, but it is a good sign.

There are many indications that Trump does not understand or care about the separation of powers and that he was going to attempt to rule by decree as a king. It appears that, at least in this instance, he will bow to the power of the judiciary when they say he has overstepped his bounds. It is a good sign that my primary concerns of totalitarianism are, at least for the moment premature.
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For once, he may have listened to the right handlers. Not good starting your term with a federal contempt charge.

But, once again, he didn't help himself with his idiotic tweets.
 
Jarod said:
The only power they have to enforce there rulings is the Constitution. You are correct, Trump could ignore the judiciary, if he could get the Cabinet heads to go along with ignoring the Constitution and 250 years of American agreement to the Rule of Law.

I suspect if Trump ignored the judiciary however, he would quickly be impeached.
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I thought Trump was law and order, I guess we scratch the law, he just wants order, his order.
 
Jarod said:
The only power they have to enforce there rulings is the Constitution. You are correct, Trump could ignore the judiciary, if he could get the Cabinet heads to go along with ignoring the Constitution and 250 years of American agreement to the Rule of Law.

I suspect if Trump ignored the judiciary however, he would quickly be impeached.
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Would you have Trump ignore the rule of law and appoint himself king? Do you think he should ignore the co-equal branch of the government called the Judicial branch?
 
Jarod said:
Looks to me like Trump has accessed to the Rule of Law and the Constitution of the United States.


Would you have him anoint himself king and ignore the Judicial branch?
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Nope. And you're a disingenuous asshole for even suggesting such a thing. Trump has no intention of being King, and nobody on this side would want him to be. Would you? How about Hussein Obama. Would you want him to be king? Some of the dumbest people in Hollywood wanted him to declare martial law, which is a solid step toward kingship.

But none of this solves the illegal immigration problem. Your petty ass courts got their little victory, so now what is your proposal to stop it?
 
Granule said:
Oh, I wouldn't take that as a good sign, jackass. There's still the issue of illegal entry into this country, which YOUR side shows no interest in stopping.

No, this backing off is just temporary. I'm not sure what Trump is going to do, but for me, I'd just go after all the assholes who aren't upholding the law and replace them with true supporters of the law.
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Your side is in control so put your money where you mouth is.
Make it a felony to illegally enter.
Round up all the felons and ship them out.
Put up or shut the fuck up.

The truth is the GOP is the main hindrance to fixing immigration.
Big business uses excess labor to deflate wages.
 
Granule said:
Nope. And you're a disingenuous asshole for even suggesting such a thing. Trump has no intention of being King, and nobody on this side would want him to be. Would you? How about Hussein Obama. Would you want him to be king? Some of the dumbest people in Hollywood wanted him to declare martial law, which is a solid step toward kingship.

But none of this solves the illegal immigration problem. Your petty ass courts got their little victory, so now what is your proposal to stop it?
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ILA said he should ignore the Judicial Branch and march forward.... So you are wrong.
 
Jarod said:
With the Court System stoping Trump's "executive order" in its tracks and illustrating a limit to his perceived absolute power I have been watching all weekend to see what happens next.

I was concerned that Trump would refuse to follow the rule of law and would instruct his administration to enforce the travel ban, despite the ruling, the Administration has obeyed the rule of law. I don't know if that was due to Trump's instruction or their own patriotism, but it is a good sign.

There are many indications that Trump does not understand or care about the separation of powers and that he was going to attempt to rule by decree as a king. It appears that, at least in this instance, he will bow to the power of the judiciary when they say he has overstepped his bounds. It is a good sign that my primary concerns of totalitarianism are, at least for the moment premature.
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Did you really expect anything else from the most liberal appeals court in the US ?....and do you really think this is over ?

When it gets to the Supreme Court and he loses, as Obama did at least 44 times by unanimous decisions, then you can have something to crow about....

This term, the federal government argued an incredible 13 cases without gaining a single vote, not even that of one of President Obama’s own nominees, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. That brings his total to 44 unanimous losses.
 
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Rune said:
Your side is in control so put your money where you mouth is.
Make it a felony to illegally enter.
Round up all the felons and ship them out.
Put up or shut the fuck up.
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I like your thinking here, Rune, even though you think it's vile and disgusting. Yes, I think something like that will eventually happen. Buckle up, liberal! ;)

Rune said:
The truth is the GOP is the main hindrance to fixing immigration.
Big business uses excess labor to deflate wages.
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That remains to be seen with the new President. God only knows how far Trump can, and will, go to fulfill his promises.
 
Jarod said:
With the Court System stoping Trump's "executive order" in its tracks and illustrating a limit to his perceived absolute power I have been watching all weekend to see what happens next.

I was concerned that Trump would refuse to follow the rule of law and would instruct his administration to enforce the travel ban, despite the ruling, the Administration has obeyed the rule of law. I don't know if that was due to Trump's instruction or their own patriotism, but it is a good sign.

There are many indications that Trump does not understand or care about the separation of powers and that he was going to attempt to rule by decree as a king. It appears that, at least in this instance, he will bow to the power of the judiciary when they say he has overstepped his bounds. It is a good sign that my primary concerns of totalitarianism are, at least for the moment premature.
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If your fears of his approach can well founded, they are certainly based in the precedents set by Obama.
 
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