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Why Trump Keeps Making Up Lies About His Refugee Ban

Donald Trump insists that his Muslim ban, or extreme vetting that is definitely not a ban, or his ban of something but not Muslims, is going extremely smoothly. “It really is a massive success story in terms of implementation on every single level,” explained a senior administration official. And yet news has depicted scenes of chaos, confusion, and inhumane treatment of innocent people. The administration has thus been forced to supply a series of defenses:

1. President Obama did the same thing. “My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months,” insists Trump. Multiple fact-checkers have examined this claim and found it wanting. In response to intelligence linking two refugees from Iraq to a bomb attack on American forces there, the Obama administration slowed, but did not stop, its refugee-admission process in order to tighten its screening. A tightening of vetting procedures in response to specific intelligence about a single country is not the same thing as a sweeping halt in the absence of a reported breach.

2. Only 109 people were detained. It’s not clear where Trump got this figure, but the Department of Homeland Security announced that in the first 23 hours alone, 375 people were detained.

3. There were some big problems, but it was caused by Delta’s computer system.

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In fact, problems began Friday night, and Delta’s system went down Sunday night, and was fixed after a few hours.

4. The premier president loves surprises. Possibly the most interesting defense is that the administration was unable to use the normal interagency review process because it would have tipped off the terrorists. “What we couldn’t do was telegraph our position ahead of time to ensure that people flooded in before that happened, before it went into place,” said White House spokesman Sean Spicer. “If we had telegraphed that ahead of time, then that would have been a massive security problem.” President Trump, as usual, put the argument in pithier terms:

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If the ban were announced with a one week notice, the "bad" would rush into our country during that week. A lot of bad "dudes" out there!
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This defense suffers from two enormous flaws. First, it assumes that allowing agencies tasked with security to have input on a policy would be tantamount to publicizing the policy. The president is supposed to be able to discuss plans in confidence without assuming they will be leaked immediately. That is how the federal government works. If the only way to announce a foreign-policy move was to keep new policies a closely guarded secret within the administration, then this kind of amateurism would be standard. There is a long record of American presidents announcing surprise foreign policy decisions that were planned in advance by officials other than a speechwriter in his early 30s and a Breitbart lunatic.

The second problem with this defense is that it assumes terrorists were sitting around the world, planning to enter the United States to launch an attack, and able to enter at any time, but lacking any special urgency. (Perhaps they were waiting for the fares to drop.) An announcement of one week’s notice would have given them just the motivation they needed to hop on a plane.

This bears no relation to reality. People from the countries banned by Trump already face an extensive, 20-step vetting process that can take up to two years. None of them could have legally made it through within a week, or anything close.

And once you realize this, it becomes clear that Trump’s policy was not only bungled in its implementation but conceptually flawed. Trump originally proposed a “Muslim ban.” But he had to back away from this policy given that it is both unconstitutional and transparently unenforceable (how do you prevent a terrorist from lying about his religion?). This forced Trump to relabel his policy “extreme vetting.” But the reality is that vetting is already extreme. Trump has not identified any weak points in the vetting procedure. Indeed, there is no connection whatsoever between his policy and any terror incidents in the United States. Radicalized domestic American terrorists have all come from countries not on Trump’s list. His policy grows out of a need to take some kind of action.

In a way, it makes perfect sense that he would skip the normal interagency review — input from security experts would only reveal that Trump’s plan has no relationship to any security objective. The purpose of this policy is to retroactively justify Trump’s campaign fearmongering.
 
Donald Trump's dishonesty insults Americans and makes the world unstable

It is not OK to have a president who barely has a casual relationship with the truth.

In the first week of his presidency, Donald Trump, or those who speak for him, have lied about:

The size of the crowd at his inauguration (and he even pressured the National Park Service to lie, too).
The reason he didn’t win the national popular vote (“millions of illegals voting).
The reason the meeting with Mexico’s president was cancelled (it was because the Mexican president refused to come to the U.S., it was NOT by mutual agreement).
Getting the biggest standing ovation at the CIA since Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl.
That he didn’t have a feud with the national intelligence community; he did, big time.
Receiving awards for protecting the environment.
The Keystone pipeline creating “a lot of jobs, 28,000 jobs.” Estimates by those involved with the project say it would be 16,000 tops.
The murder rate in Philadelphia increasing. Actually, it’s declined significantly.
The fact (not to be confused with “alternative facts”) that presidential truthfulness is even being talked about, let alone a point of very grave concern, after the first week of a presidency is troubling.

Americans deserve a president we can trust to provide us with the truth – no matter how big or small.

There seems to be little concern among those close to Trump or from his Republican allies in Congress.

Worst of all, his closest aides, particularly Stephen Bannon, Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer – are the president’s primary enablers.

It is hard to fathom that they might share his warped view of reality. Perhaps they see it as a mere inconvenience and small concession for having a president who will rubber-stamp their judicial picks, pet projects and ideological missions as well as join in attacking their favorite targets.

Lying from the Oval Office carries far graver consequences than fibs from the penthouse at Trump Towers.

Presidential lies aren’t trivial quibbles over the size of the crowd at an event or how many votes won in an election. Imagined, or hoped-for facts cannot become the basis for policies and laws that have consequences beyond the stage-managed world of reality TV.

The lies and exaggerations are about which American citizens will be able to vote and what kinds of impediments will be placed in their way.

They are about whether American citizens who happen to be Muslim can come back into the United States after they travel abroad.

They are about life-and-death: which refugees will find safety when they flee their war-torn homes; which of our nation’s allies the U.S. will defend against foreign aggression and our nation’s armed service personnel will legitimately put into situations by a Commander and Chief who may require the ultimate sacrifice.

There can be disagreement – even big and divisive – over policies and programs.

Failure to deal with the truth leads to tyranny. It’s no late-night show punch line, it’s not hyperbole.
 
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Mostly True43 (12%)(43)
Half True51 (14%)(51)
Mostly False68 (19%)(68)
False118 (33%)(118)
Pants on Fire62 (17%
 
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Be clear folks, unless you are a Russian troll or a cheering Trumpette, call out the cowardly draft dodger, tax cheat, adulterer and liar every chance you get, what goes around comes around.


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"During his bizarre, albeit successful, campaign for the White House, Mr. Trump identified a variety of ‘problems’ (see: alternative facts, above), that he is now setting about to solve. This writer would like to assist the president to the best of his ability, and he believes that Mr. Trump is looking beyond the mark, and is not recognizing the real causes of some serious problems he is attempting to address today. So, this writer will attempt to identify those, and offer solutions that he feels certain Mr. Trump would embrace:"

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'Alternative Facts': The Needless Lies of the Trump Administration
If the president and his aides will tell easily disproven falsehoods about crowd sizes and speeches, what else will they be willing to dissemble about?


One of the many things that is remarkable about the Trump administration is its devotion, even in its first days, to a particular variety of pointless falsehood.

Mendacity among politicians and the spokespeople hired to spin for them runs across eras and aisles, though it is true that some are more honest than others, and Donald Trump was a historically dishonest presidential candidate. But the Trump administration has displayed a commitment to needlessly lying that is confounding to even the most cynical observers of American politics.

No incident better summarizes this than a bizarre briefing by White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer on Saturday. Speaking in the Brady Briefing Room, Spicer laid into the assembled reporters.

“Yesterday, at a time when our nation and the world was watching the peaceful transition of power and, as the president said, the transition and the balance of power from Washington to the citizens of the United States, some members of the media were engaged in deliberately false reporting,” he charged.

He then went on at length, attacking reporters, particularly one from The New York Times, for tweeting photographs comparing the size of the crowd at Friday’s inauguration unfavorably with Barack Obama’s first inauguration. (That image was retweeted from the National Park Service’s account, prompting a brief Twitter freeze at the Interior Department.)

“Inaccurate numbers involving crowd size were also tweeted,” Spicer continued, because the NPS did not count. (My colleague Robinson Meyer explained how crowd counts at events like the inauguration come about.) He incorrectly characterized ridership statistics provided by WMATA, D.C.’s transit authority.

Then came the big whopper: “This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration—period—both in person and around the globe.”

Spicer’s statement required dismissing all available evidence: ridership count, eyewitness testimony, independent crowd-counts, and Nielsen television ratings. Spicer cut his teeth at the Republican National Committee as the combative voice of a body often at odds with the media, but even by those standards, his furious insistence on assertions at odds with the evidence were peculiar.

They are, however, emerging as a hallmark of the administration. For days ahead of the inauguration, Trump aides insisted that the president-elect was writing his own inaugural address, without the aid of speechwriters. They went so far as to stage a photograph that purported to show him writing the speech—though the image showed Trump wielding a Sharpie, and some internet sleuths speculated that the desk he was using is typically used as a reception desk at his Mar-a-Lago estate.

On Friday, however, The Wall Street Journal reported, “Much of the speech was written by Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon, two of Mr. Trump’s top advisers, a White House official said.” Why mislead the public about who wrote the speech? After all, the news that Miller would be assisting in writing the address had emerged days ago, and there’s certainly no shame in a president employing speechwriters, nor has the practice dimmed positive reception for past presidential addresses.

Ahead of the inauguration, Trump threw a concert in front of the Lincoln Memorial. “This started out tonight being a small little concert, and then we had the idea maybe we’ll do it in front of the Lincoln Memorial,” Trump said in brief remarks. “I don’t know if it’s ever been done before. But if it has, very seldom.” That claim was also ridiculous, whether it was intentionally misleading or simply badly misinformed. There was a huge, widely covered concert at the memorial to kick off Obama’s inauguration festivities eight years ago.

These are only three examples of Trump and his aides offering statements that are not only provably false, but easily checked. (There are plenty more where they came from, like Trump’s claim that Russian hacking was not brought up before the election.)

There was a brief skirmish within the journalism world around the new year, when Wall Street Journal editor Gerry Baker professed wariness about how some of Trump’s statements had been labeled. “I’d be careful about using the word ‘lie.’ ‘Lie’ implies much more than just saying something that’s false. It implies a deliberate intent to mislead,” he said. Baker took some heat for that statement in some more progressive parts of the press, but his distinction is real and important.

But how is anyone to view Spicer’s statement as stemming from anything other than a deliberate intent to mislead? The facts are clear, and given that Spicer did not take questions, his main purpose on Saturday must have been to spread falsehoods about crowd size.

Top Trump aide Kellyanne Conway appeared on Meet the Press Sunday morning, where Chuck Todd grilled her on the incident. “The presidency is about choices. I’m curious why President Trump chose yesterday to send out his press secretary to essentially litigate a provable falsehood when it comes to a small and petty thing like inaugural crowd size,” Todd asked. Conway first tried to deflect, saying, “I don’t think presidents are judged by crowd sizes, they’re judged by accomplishments.” Fair enough, Todd said—so why lie?

“You’re saying it’s a falsehood, and Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts,” Conway responded.

Todd was flabbergasted by the Orwellian turn of phrase: “Alternative facts are not facts. They’re falsehoods.”

There’s still no good explanation for Spicer’s statement, but it fits with a long-running mantra from Trump aides and supporters that there’s no such thing as an objective reality. The question for Trump and his aides is simple: If you’re willing to lie about stuff this minuscule, why should anyone believe what you say about the really big things that matter?

The Trump campaign made a winning wager that enough voters didn’t care that they could get away with that, and the nascent Trump administration seems to be going double-or-nothing on the gamble. Perhaps that’s a winning bet, and objective facts are a thing of the past. But that’s a claim that’s been advanced before, not that long ago, in American history, by a Republican administration whose top aides disdained the “reality-based community.” That administration left office amid an enormous economic recession, and Trump himself called George W. Bush’s war in Iraq “a big fat mistake.” It’s a strange precedent for Trump to adopt at the start of his presidency.
 
Here’s A Running List Of President Trump’s Lies And Other Bullshit
Just one day after being sworn in as the 45th president of the United States, Donald Trump told his first lie. We’re keeping track.

Originally posted on Jan. 26, 2017, at 2:53 p.m.
Updated on Jan. 27, 2017, at 8:59 p.m.
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There’s a high bar to accusing someone of committing a “lie,” and we don’t do it lightly.
A lie isn’t just a false statement. It’s a false statement whose speaker knows it’s false. In these instances, the president — or his administration — have clear reason to know otherwise. Reporters are understandably cautious about using the word — some never do, because it requires speculating on what someone is thinking. The cases we call “lies” are ones where we think it’s fair to make that call: Trump is saying something that contradicts clear and widely published information that we have reason to think he’s seen. This list also includes bullshit, speech that is — in its academic definition — “unconnected to a concern with the truth.”
Jan. 21, 2017: Lied about inauguration crowd size to the CIA

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Trump’s words: The inaugural crowd “looked honestly like a million and a half people” adding that “it went all the way back to the Washington Monument.”
Lie: Aerial photos of the crowd at 11a.m. and 12 p.m. — around the time Trump took the oath of office — show that the crowd witnessing the inauguration did not extend back to the Washington Monument.

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Jan. 23, 2017: Lied about voter fraud at a reception with congressional leaders
Jan. 23, 2017: Lied about voter fraud at a reception with congressional leaders
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Trump’s words: Sources confirmed to multiple media outlets that Trump spent at least 10 minutes of his meeting with congressional leaders talking about how 3 to 5 million “illegals” voted in the election, costing him the popular vote.
Lie: There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud. The National Association of Secretaries of State — which has a majority of Republicans — said they are “not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump.” And in a Michigan legal filing by Trump’s lawyers after the election, they wrote, “All available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or mistake.”
This is not the first time Trump has claimed he would have won the popular vote if illegal immigrants had not voted. Almost 20 days after the election, Trump tweeted about the issue.
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In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
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While Trump won the presidency with 309 electoral votes, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.
A claim that 3 million “illegal aliens” had voted in the election was published by right-wing conspiracy site InfoWars on Nov. 14, but voting officials have said there is no evidence of this.
Jan. 25, 2017: Lied about voter fraud on ABC News

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Trump’s words: “You have people who are registered who are dead, who are illegals, who are in two states,” Trump told ABC’s David Muir. “You have people registered in two states. You have people registered in New York and New Jersey. They vote twice.” He also cited a Pew report as evidence, saying, “Take a look at the Pew reports.”
Lie: Once again, not true. Trump references a debunked Pew study by a political blog hosted by the Washington Post.
Jan. 25, 2017: Lied about size of the inauguration crowd on ABC News
Jan. 25, 2017: Lied about size of the inauguration crowd on ABC News
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Trump’s words: Trump finished his ABC News interview by pointing to framed photographs hung on a wall. “Here’s a picture of the crowd,” he said. “The audience was the biggest ever. This audience was massive, look how far back it goes.” He then pointed to another panoramic photo, saying the crowd — which he described as “a sea of love” — goes “all the way down.”
Lie: The audience wasn’t “the biggest ever.” As mentioned above, photographs from the inauguration show that the crowd did not extend as far back as Trump claims it did.
Jan. 25, 2017: Lied about two people being shot and killed during during Obama’s farewell speech
Jan. 25, 2017: Lied about two people being shot and killed during during Obama's farewell speech
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Trump’s Words: “Look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, a very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech,” Trump told ABC News’ David Muir. “They weren’t shot at the speech. But they were shot in the city of Chicago during his speech.”
The president was discussing crime in Chicago and his suggestion to “send in the feds” when he claimed two people were shot and killed during Obama’s Jan. 10 farewell address to the nation.
Lie: Chicago Police told BuzzFeed News there were no people killed by gun violence on Jan. 10. A log of shootings in the city also showed there were five non-fatal shootings in the city that day, but none occurred while Obama gave his speech.
Jan. 26, 2017: Lied about Mexico’s president “agreeing to cancel” a meeting

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Trump’s words: A day after Trump signed an executive order to extend a wall along the southern border and insisting Mexico would pay for it, the president said he and Enrique Peña Nieto agreed to cancel the meeting.
“The president of Mexico and myself have agreed to cancel our planned meeting scheduled for next week,” Trump said at the GOP retreat in Philadelphia. “Unless Mexico is going to treat the United States fairly, with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless and I want to go a different route.”
Lie: Hours earlier, Peña Nieto tweeted that he called the White House to cancel the meeting, adding, “I lament and reject the decision of the United States to continue building a wall that for years does not unite us, but divides us.”
Jan. 26, 2017: Lied that the murder rate is rising in Philly
Jan. 26, 2017: Lied that the murder rate is rising in Philly
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Trump’s words: At the GOP retreat on Jan. 26, Trump said that Philadelphia’s murder rate is “steady, I mean just terribly increasing.”
Lie: The homicide rate in Philadelphia has been steadily declining over the past decade. According to statistics from the Philadelphia Police Department, there were 277 murders in 2016 compared with 280 murders in 2015. Over a five-year period, murders were down 19%. And over a 10-year period, murders were down 41%.
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Jan. 27, 2017: Lied about being in Scotland the day before the “Brexit” vote
Jan. 27, 2017: Lied about being in Scotland the day before the "Brexit" vote
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Trump’s words:
Trump said Friday during a joint press conference with UK Prime Minister Theresa May that he was in Scotland the day before the “Brexit” vote last June and predicted the EU referendum would pass.
“I happened to be in Scotland, at Turnberry, cutting a ribbon, when Brexit happened,” he said. “And we had a vast amount of press there and I said – this was the day before, you probably remember – ‘Brexit is going to happen’ and I was scorned in the press for making that prediction, I was scorned.
“Lo and behold the following day it happened and the odds weren’t looking good for me when I made that statement because as you remember everyone thought it wasn’t going to happen.”
Lie: In reality, Trump arrived in Scotland the day after the EU referendum, June 24, 2016, when the result was already clear.
CORRECTION
About 11 million more households watched the 2017 inauguration than the 2013 inauguration, which Donald Trump tweeted about. A previous version of this post said that those Nielsen figures were incorrect, and the line was removed. Jan. 26, 2017, at 7:26 p.m.

You provided the short list.
 
that was the lyingest motherfucking President in my lifetime, what an ignorant thing for you to post.

Seriously, Trump has lied more and he has barely been president.

Mexico is going to pay for the wall.
My crowd was the biggest ever.
The executive order did not relate to people with Green Cards.
 
Seriously, Trump has lied more and he has barely been president.

Mexico is going to pay for the wall.
My crowd was the biggest ever.
The executive order did not relate to people with Green Cards.

you are a literal dumbfuck aren't you? If Mexico pays increased tariffs or we charge for wire transfers to Mexico, that is in effect paying for the wall.

They were talking about the social media crowd no necessarily crowds actually at the event. Liberals love to twist their own narratives.

Everyone with Green Cards are still coming, we know someone that had no issue with her green card.

Guess that makes you the dumbfuck.


Yet Obama told us we could keep our health plan and doctors, I lost both. He also stood on national and TV and said he went to 57 states. LMAO
 
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