Trump's nominee for head of the EPA....

aloysious said:
Yeah he said that and it's pretty stupid but he knows better. Basically he was stating it in a way toothless hillbillies in W. Virginia could understand.
China could give a shit about AGW , they're legitimately more concerned with actual air pollution. They love seeing the West quixotically try to change the weather with economic suffocating regulations. It gives them the advantage.
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So, he was lying... Gotcha.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
The jury may be out but the scientific consensus is not.
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" ...as countless examples in history have shown, “scientific consensus" bears no resemblance whatsoever to scientific validity. “Consensus" is a political term, not a scientific one. "
Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics
Gerhard Gerlich and Ralf D. Tscheuschner
https://arxiv.org/abs/0707.1161
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anatta said:
well sure. but the enforcement varies by whom's in charge -some of the marginal issues should swing back to "federalism"
( no matter how goofy Pruitt describes it) .

More interesting is Michigan vs the EPA where SCOTUS did finally rule that costs need to be considered by the EPA
-not just pure science https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-46_10n2.pdf
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The EPA is an out of control monster, more interested in empire building and its own survival than anything else. This new book highlights exactly what is wrong with it.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/watt...as-feet-to-the-fire/amp/?client=chrome-mobile
 
Jarod said:
Trump's nominee to head the EPA acknowledge today that Climate Change is REAL...


How does that make deniers feel? Ready to admit Climate Change is occurring?
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Doesn't impact me a bit. I have always said the climate changes. Fucking duh

As long as he rolls back EPA regulations who cares

But I am sure you think you have stumbled on some gotcha moment.

You should blog about it
 
Jarod said:
Trump's nominee to head the EPA acknowledge today that Climate Change is REAL...


How does that make deniers feel? Ready to admit Climate Change is occurring?
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We have never denied it, we have only denied what all the contributors are as it has been occuring for millions of years. It happens on other planets as well where there is no life.
 
Guille said:
True. Sucks we have to do it this way but Mott is right.
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I don't know about that. In fact in terms of results, and I'm assuming you're old enough to remember how it was pre EPA....the current regulatory framework has actually worked quite well. Far from perfect, to say the least, but it is a system that is responsive to most stake holders and it's been a heck of a long time since any rivers caught on fire or since we've had a Times Beach Missouri or a Valley of the Drums, Love Canal, etc., and you can actually breath the air in Pittsburgh and LA now and when's the last time a major US City has had a smog alert? Youngstown still smells like you have your head up your ass but hey...nobody's perfect.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I don't know about that. In fact in terms of results, and I'm assuming you're old enough to remember how it was pre EPA....the current regulatory framework has actually worked quite well. Far from perfect, to say the least, but it is a system that is responsive to most stake holders and it's been a heck of a long time since any rivers caught on fire or since we've had a Times Beach Missouri or a Valley of the Drums, Love Canal, etc., and you can actually breath the air in Pittsburgh and LA now and when's the last time a major US City has had a smog alert? Youngstown still smells like you have your head up your ass but hey...nobody's perfect.
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I remember air being dirty enough to make me cough.
 
anatta said:
well sure. but the enforcement varies by whom's in charge -some of the marginal issues should swing back to "federalism"
( no matter how goofy Pruitt describes it) .

More interesting is Michigan vs the EPA where SCOTUS did finally rule that costs need to be considered by the EPA
-not just pure science https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-46_10n2.pdf
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Sure....show me a marginal pollution issue that isn't mitigated by not crossing State lines and you've got point on Federalism.

In regards to considering cost. Sure...they did decide that cost must be considered but read the language. That consideration is secondary to protecting human health and the environment. Otherwise, as been done so often before, cost benefit analysis will be used to benefit polluters while undermine the mission to protect human health.
 
I Love America said:
Doesn't impact me a bit. I have always said the climate changes. Fucking duh

As long as he rolls back EPA regulations who cares

But I am sure you think you have stumbled on some gotcha moment.

You should blog about it
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Cool...as soon as he does I'll be right on over to dump a drum of MEK in your back yard. LOL LOL LOL
 
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