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US gives detailed look at Russia’s alleged election hacking

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. has released its most detailed report yet on accusations that Russia interfered in the U.S. presidential election by hacking American political sites and email accounts.
The 13-page joint analysis by the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI is the first such report ever to attribute malicious cyber activity to a particular country or actors.
It was also the first time the U.S. has officially and specifically tied intrusions into the Democratic National Committee to hackers with the Russian civilian and military intelligence services, the FSB and GRU, expanding on an Oct. 7 accusation by the Obama administration.
The report said the intelligence services were involved in “an ongoing campaign of cyber-enabled operations directed at the U.S. government and its citizens.” It added, “In some cases, (the Russian intelligence services’) actors masqueraded as third parties, hiding behind false online personas designed to cause the victim to misattribute the source of the attack.”
Last summer, stolen emails from Democrats were posted by an online persona known as Guccifer 2.0, believed by U.S. officials to be linked to Russia. Outrage over documents that appeared to show favoritism for Hillary Clinton forced the DNC’s chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, to resign.
The U.S. released the technical report Thursday as President Barack Obama sanctioned the GRU and the FSB, the GRU’s leadership and companies which the U.S. said support the GRU.
The sanctions were the administration’s first use of a 2015 executive order for combatting cyberattacks against critical infrastructure and commercial espionage. Because election systems aren’t considered critical infrastructure, Obama amended the order Thursday to allow for sanctions on entities “interfering with or undermining election processes or institutions.”
The retaliation against Russia, just weeks before President-elect Donald Trump takes office, culminated months of political handwringing about how and whether to respond to Moscow’s alleged meddling. U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that Russia’s goal was to help Trump win — an assessment Trump has dismissed as ridiculous. Trump said Thursday the U.S. should move on, but that he would meet with the intelligence community’s leaders next week for an update on the situation.
The report did not go far beyond confirming details already disclosed by cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike, which was hired to investigate the DNC hacks.
It described the intelligence services’ use of “spearphishing” — fake emails intended to trick victims into typing in their user names and passwords. At least one person opened attachments with malicious software. The report noted that actors “likely associated” with Russian intelligence services are continuing to engage in spearphishing campaigns, including one launched just days after the U.S. election.
The DNC was infiltrated by the FSB in summer 2015 and again by the GRU in spring 2016 using spearphishing emails that often appeared to come from legitimate or official organizations, the report said.
Russian officials have denied any involvement in hacking U.S. political sites and emails.
The report provided clues, or pieces of code left behind by hackers, cybersecurity workers in the private sector could look for to identify compromised systems and prevent more intrusions. The Department of Homeland Security said it has already included this information within its own cyber threat information-sharing program, which automatically flags threats in real time for participating companies and agencies.
Releasing such a report was a political twist on the administration’s strategy of “name and shame,” in place since 2012 and used to bring indictments against Chinese military hackers for economic espionage and Iranian hackers for an attack on banks and a small dam in New York. It was also a far more detailed and sophisticated telling of Russia’s hacking, with technical indicators of compromise, compared to the spare technical details released after the Obama administration publicly blamed North Korea for a cyberattack against Sony Pictures Entertainment.
U.S. officials also provided antivirus vendors with two malicious software samples used by Russian intelligence services
 
"Our country does the same," beautiful, where's your facts proving "our country does the same?" Who's "full of shit" now?

And to deny that the Russians directly influenced the American election is totally ignoring the facts, now if you got no problem with a hostile Foreign nation's spy service attacking our Nation, well so be it, but you better put away the flags I'm sure you fly every fourth of the July cause you don't give a rat's ass about the United States of America

So you can't cite any evidence the hack had an effect on the election? We both agree the hack happened, I just don't see it as a big deal. Unless you can show me the effect it had, I will continue to think it was no big deal... just like it's no big deal to me that our country interferes with foreign elections.
 
Surely you can cite some evidence that the supposed hack had an effect? You don't just get to say the Russians caused X without presenting the evidence of how it was done. Tell us what they did

So now your saying that the WikiLeaks had zero influence on the elections?

Strange, your media, from Fox to radio, made the Wikileaks the center theme of their broadcasts for the last year and now your telling us they had zero effect, wow, so what was your media doing then employing them to set the media agenda?

Stop denying facts
 
So you can't cite any evidence the hack had an effect on the election? We both agree the hack happened, I just don't see it as a big deal. Unless you can show me the effect it had, I will continue to think it was no big deal... just like it's no big deal to me that our country interferes with foreign elections.

"the hack happened, I just don't see it as a big deal," what? The hack didn't come from some "400lb guy sitting on his bed," but rather a hostile Foreign nation's spy service, and they weren't attacking grades at some local high school, but rather the political institutions that make us what we are, and you "don't see it as a big deal?"

If true. that explains a lot, next time a Chinese entity shuts down the power grid in your area just remember you don't think being attacked by hostile nations is "a big deal"
 
So now your saying that the WikiLeaks had zero influence on the elections?

Strange, your media, from Fox to radio, made the Wikileaks the center theme of their broadcasts for the last year and now your telling us they had zero effect, wow, so what was your media doing then employing them to set the media agenda?

Stop denying facts

The wikileaks made a tiny impact. It wasn't a determining factor. And the russians had nothing to do with wikileaks according to wikileaks.

Cite the evidence that, without wikileaks, the election would have been different. Find a poll that asks voters if it made a difference in their choice at the very least.
 
"the hack happened, I just don't see it as a big deal," what? The hack didn't come from some "400lb guy sitting on his bed," but rather a hostile Foreign nation's spy service, and they weren't attacking grades at some local high school, but rather the political institutions that make us what we are, and you "don't see it as a big deal?"

If true. that explains a lot, next time a Chinese entity shuts down the power grid in your area just remember you don't think being attacked by hostile nations is "a big deal"

Yeah, I notice you ignored the link about all the time the US interfered with elections.

It is no big deal you sore losers
 
I'm talking about a foreign spy service that orchestrated a clandestine espionage campaign to directly influence the American political process, and the reality that such an action should produce more a response than "it's time to move on," unless of course, it benefits you greatly to "just move on," which would raise a whole lot of questions given the severity of the facts
Stop fucking whining snowflake!

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Surely you can cite some evidence that the supposed hack had an effect? You don't just get to say the Russians caused X without presenting the evidence of how it was done. Tell us what they did
There are many out there that could have hacked those emails. Anonymous being one of them, I expect they could easily left telltale signs to incriminate the Russians. The only person who is totally convinced is Desh and she is an ocean going lunatic.

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Yeah, I notice you ignored the link about all the time the US interfered with elections.

It is no big deal you sore losers

Hardly, so now your saying, as bogus as it is, and which you can't prove, because the US may have influenced others' elections it's OK for a hostile nation now to attack us, beautiful, I guess I we should keep that in mind if Cuba suddenly attempts to assassinate our President, you'd have to say it's alright, we tired to assassinate theirs or decades

You sure do seem to be willing to forget all the facts and our Nation if they don't fit the scenario you want to see happen
 
There are many out there that could have hacked those emails. Anonymous being one of them, I expect they could easily left telltale signs to incriminate the Russians. The only person who is totally convinced is Desh and she is an ocean going lunatic.

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Wait a minute, so your now saying that the NSA, CIA, FBI, Homeland Security, and twelve other national security entities are lying?

Forget it, the Russians attacked us, attacked the institution that separates us from the likes of Albania, and it has nothing to do with the recent election, the fact is a hostile nation's spy service orchestrated an attack on us, and you seem to dismiss it as if your checking account just got hacked
 
Stop fucking whining snowflake!

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Oh, I got it, because the truth doesn't fit the scenario you like, the rest of America can forget the fact that we were attacked, it's not the Untied States of America, it's the reality that you want to see happen that counts
 
So now your saying that the WikiLeaks had zero influence on the elections?

Strange, your media, from Fox to radio, made the Wikileaks the center theme of their broadcasts for the last year and now your telling us they had zero effect, wow, so what was your media doing then employing them to set the media agenda?

Stop denying facts

I am curious. Do you or anyone actually know anyone who changed who they were going to vote for based on the Wikileak information? Personally I do not however I would like to hear from others on this.
 
Hardly, so now your saying, as bogus as it is, and which you can't prove, because the US may have influenced others' elections it's OK for a hostile nation now to attack us, beautiful, I guess I we should keep that in mind if Cuba suddenly attempts to assassinate our President, you'd have to say it's alright, we tired to assassinate theirs or decades

You sure do seem to be willing to forget all the facts and our Nation if they don't fit the scenario you want to see happen

It's standard operating procedures for governments to meddle around the world. Why should we hold Russia to a standard our own country fails to meet? You're making way too much of the entire episode. It must scary living in your world where a few exposed emails is tantamount to invasion. They exposed some emails! that's it! emails. Emails that the left didn't even give a shit about anyway.
 
I'm still waiting for the CIA to show some evidence to the House Intelligence Committee....think they'very found some yet? ....

And now we got another one, too funny, for two years conservatives have been telling us Clinton was guilty of everything imaginable even though after umpteen "investigations" funded by millions of taxpayers' dollars they couldn't prove anything , and now, they want "evidence" that sixteen nonpartisan intelligent entities aren't lying, beautiful

Is it any wonder all those fat guys on radio and Fox are cashing million dollar checks telling them what they want hear
 
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wikileaks-hillary-clinton/

There just isn’t a clean-cut story in the data. For instance, you might have expected a decline in the percentage of Americans who trusted Clinton after Wikileaks began its releases. As Politico’s Ken Vogel pointed out in mid-October, both Trump campaign officials and even progressives said the Wikileaks emails revealed that Clinton would be “compromised” if she became president. But the percentage of Americans who found Clinton to be honest or trustworthy stayed at around 30 percent in polling throughout October and into November.


Of course, one thing didn’t sink Clinton. The evidence suggests Wikileaks is among the factors that might have contributed to her loss, but we really can’t say much more than that.
 
It's standard operating procedures for governments to meddle around the world. Why should we hold Russia to a standard our own country fails to meet? You're making way too much of the entire episode. It must scary living in your world where a few exposed emails is tantamount to invasion. They exposed some emails! that's it! emails. Emails that the left didn't even give a shit about anyway.[/QUOTE

It is not, nor ever was, about "some exposed emails." We were attacked by a hostile nation's spy services, the very institution that makes us the Democracy we are was attacked, why is it you wear such partisan blinders that you can't recognize that fact? nor acknowledge the seriousness of the fact? This ain't some "400lb guy on his bed" hacking a checking account, it is a foreign nation attacking us as a Nation

And again, I guess then you got no problem if Cuba now attempts to assassinate the President, that is what your logic is with the, "we do it so it's alright if they do it" logic
 
spying is spying. Spying is not attacking. Words have meaning. What the russians did was good old every day spying just like every other country does. I guess you refused to read the link I posted upthread. LA times too biased I guess.
 
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