Newt Gingrich Thinks Nepotism Laws Shouldn’t Apply To Trump Administration

[christiefan915]

and they will consult him on all his investments too

Ilegal

It's all so twisted you barely know where to start. The kids are getting the Obama businesses... no blind trust here... and Ivanka is slated to get a WH office. How are we the people to make sure that there is a separation between business and government? And the fact that trump is going to have his own people as security rather than the SS adds another layer of opacity.

It just reeks.

 

[christiefan915]

some dude on MSNBC this AM was saying "liquidate and put into a blind trust"..like real estate is fungible on demand..

The best you're gonna get is removal of decision making by Trump;there is no reason for liqidation-
and how long would it take to do that anyways??

Most presidents have done it from Johnson on. trump knew this would be an issue, he could have started looking into the process months ago; he outright stated he'd do it: "I'm going to do it for America. ... I would put it in a blind trust."

As usual he lied, as as usual his supporters don't care.

 

[Lightbringer]

Unbelievable.

"Former Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich sees no reason for ethics laws to keep President-elect Donald Trump from appointing certain people to his administration.
Gingrich suggested on Monday during an interview with NPR’s “The Diane Rehm Show” that Trump could sidestep anti-nepotism laws that would bar him from giving advisory roles to his daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner.

“In the case of the president, he has a broad ability to organize the White House the way he wants to,” Gingrich said.

President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the nepotism statute into law in 1967, seven years after President John F. Kennedy appointed his brother Bobby Kennedy as attorney general. The law prevents public officials from employing or promoting relatives to a civilian position of an office within their jurisdiction.

Gingrich previously stated Trump might have to get a “waiver” in order to bypass the law. Now it seems the former House speaker doesn’t believe the law necessarily applies to the Trump administration at all."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ump-nepotism-laws_us_5859256ce4b0b3ddfd8e8f75

Newt Gingrich is an idiot and I think Trump is making a yuuuuuuuuuugggeeeeeee mistake keeping that lying, cheating, assclown around.

 

[anatta]

Most presidents have done it from Johnson on. trump knew this would be an issue, he could have started looking into the process months ago; he outright stated he'd do it: "I'm going to do it for America. ... I would put it in a blind trust."

As usual he lied, as as usual his supporters don't care.

voters also knew this would be an issue; I doubt Trump actuly thought thru the ramification of liquidation + it penalizes him for winning as real estate holdings can take a beating in a rushed sale.


I'm of the old school, before EVERYTHING was litigated that a POTUS needs wide latitude . I mean that for advisors too.
While the emoluments clause has to be respected -simply making capitol gains on existing holding s is obviously not
"accepting foreign gifts" The emoluments clause is what I look to, as electing a billionaire POTUS is all new for us..

I'm sure they are working ths out ( transition lawyers) and that's how it's gonna be -whatever they decide.
And while I onviously do not want graft,neither do I want a POTUS not to be able to look to advisors-where they are family or not.
Where there are grey areas/conflicts of law, due deference has to be given to the POTUS desires/needs.
We all (should) want him to succeed -and 'whatever it takes' within reason should be allowed for that reason

 

[WillReadmore]

It's all so twisted you barely know where to start. The kids are getting the Obama businesses... no blind trust here... and Ivanka is slated to get a WH office. How are we the people to make sure that there is a separation between business and government? And the fact that trump is going to have his own people as security rather than the SS adds another layer of opacity.

It just reeks.

No, this doesn't apply to Obama's kids in any way.

They aren't taking an active role in our government, so the laws regarding separation of personal business and government don't apply.

Security has never provided information on what the first family does. That's been a serious line. So, having his own security shouldn't change anything about that aspect. However, his own security won't have independent oversight as government security would. So, Trump could be directing his private security to do stuff that government supplied security would not do.

I agree it absolutely reeks.

Consider this: He could bring his family into the war room to take part in the most top secrets America has. And, they would not need the same level of security that ALL government officials would need in order to be there. That is, with a short and light examination by the FBI, the president can make someone a close personal advisor without review by anyone.

 

[NOVA]

According to what I've read anti-nepotism laws were passed because of the Kennedy appointment to AG. And you really are missing the the main point here. Cons screamed bloody murder when Hillary headed the health care task force, so why is it suddenly different for the trump kids?

Really ?...I never heard anybody scream bloody murder about her.....she was 'first lady' and just about every first lady has a pet project during her reign.....socialized medicine was hers......

 

[blackascoal]

Unbelievable.

"Former Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich sees no reason for ethics laws to keep President-elect Donald Trump from appointing certain people to his administration.
Gingrich suggested on Monday during an interview with NPR’s “The Diane Rehm Show” that Trump could sidestep anti-nepotism laws that would bar him from giving advisory roles to his daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner.

“In the case of the president, he has a broad ability to organize the White House the way he wants to,” Gingrich said.

President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the nepotism statute into law in 1967, seven years after President John F. Kennedy appointed his brother Bobby Kennedy as attorney general. The law prevents public officials from employing or promoting relatives to a civilian position of an office within their jurisdiction.

Gingrich previously stated Trump might have to get a “waiver” in order to bypass the law. Now it seems the former House speaker doesn’t believe the law necessarily applies to the Trump administration at all."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ump-nepotism-laws_us_5859256ce4b0b3ddfd8e8f75

Not sure why anybody still talks about the disgusting slab of skin known as Newt Gingrich.

 

[NOVA]

It's all so twisted you barely know where to start. The kids are getting the Obama businesses... no blind trust here... and Ivanka is slated to get a WH office. How are we the people to make sure that there is a separation between business and government? And the fact that trump is going to have his own people as security rather than the SS adds another layer of opacity.

It just reeks.

His kids running the business might be some kind of problem, I agree....

Ivanka getting an office ?....
what do you want him to do, get a divorce, put her in solitary confinement, have a chaperone when he sees her ?
You're getting ridiculous...shes his wife.....

And whats the problem with his own security ?....the Secret Service ain't there to spy him so they can tell the DNC what hes doing....whats the difference
who does his security.....its his life on the line and its who he thinks is gonna do that job the best...

 

[Lightbringer]

Ivanka getting an office ?....
what do you want him to do, get a divorce, put her in solitary confinement, have a chaperone when he sees her ?
You're getting ridiculous...shes his wife.....

I thought their relationship might be a little fucked up but DAYUM.

 

[NOVA]

Most presidents have done it from Johnson on. trump knew this would be an issue, he could have started looking into the process months ago; he outright stated he'd do it: "I'm going to do it for America. ... I would put it in a blind trust."

As usual he lied, as as usual his supporters don't care.

I would too....if its possible....its not settled yet is it ?....so how could he have lied, yet ?

but keep at it, honey.....you might find something wrong that actually matters to those of us not afflicted with Trump Derangement.....

 

[christiefan915]

His kids running the business might be some kind of problem, I agree....

Ivanka getting an office ?....
what do you want him to do, get a divorce, put her in solitary confinement, have a chaperone when he sees her ?
You're getting ridiculous...shes his wife.....

And whats the problem with his own security ?....the Secret Service ain't there to spy him so they can tell the DNC what hes doing....whats the difference
who does his security.....its his life on the line and its who he thinks is gonna do that job the best...

bravs. Ivanka is his daughter, not his wife. His wife is Melania and she's not even moving in until god knows when. Who does that? The highest office in the land and she's going to stay in NY for the kid. Other presidents' kids got their education in DC but not Barron. There's something weird going on here with Melania and if you can't see it you're being willfully ignorant.

 

[christiefan915]

I would too....if its possible....its not settled yet is it ?....so how could he have lied, yet ?

but keep at it, honey.....you might find something wrong that actually matters to those of us not afflicted with Trump Derangement.....

He lied because he, through his lawyer, announced that the kids would be running the business while he was in office. Which makes it NOT a blind trust.

"Under the legal definition of a blind trust, a public official places his finances under the management of an independent party. The official would have no knowledge of what is in the trust or how it is managed."

 

[NOVA]

bravs. Ivanka is his daughter, not his wife. His wife is Melania and she's not even moving in until god knows when. Who does that? The highest office in the land and she's going to stay in NY for the kid. Other presidents' kids got their education in DC but not Barron. There's something weird going on here with Melania and if you can't see it you're being willfully ignorant.

Oops....my bad....I'm doing too many threads at once.....my first mistake this year.....

Anyway, I see your point....Ivanka, if shes still involved with the Trump business, that will present a problem....but as an advisor she needs to be somewhere close....

Then again, the point is the same, you can't expect him to be estranged from his whole family just because of his new position as president....

His wife said she'd stay in NY at least until this school year is out....nothing weird about that.....

even Obama is staying in DC buying a home and all to let his kids finish school there.....its the right thing for both of them.....

 

[christiefan915]

Oops....my bad....I'm doing too many threads at once.....my first mistake this year.....

Anyway, I see your point....Ivanka, if shes still involved with the Trump business, that will present a problem....but as an advisor she needs to be somewhere close....

Then again, the point is the same, you can't expect him to be estranged from his whole family just because of his new position as president....

His wife said she'd stay in NY at least until this school year is out....nothing weird about that.....

even Obama is staying in DC buying a home and all to let his kids finish school there.....its the right thing for both of them.....

Carter's kid, Clinton's kid, Obama's kids all enrolled in DC schools.

 

[NOVA]

He lied because he, through his lawyer, announced that the kids would be running the business while he was in office. Which makes it NOT a blind trust.

"Under the legal definition of a blind trust, a public official places his finances under the management of an independent party. The official would have no knowledge of what is in the trust or how it is managed."

A Blind Trust.....that’s not as easy as it sounds. “You typically cannot simply transfer existing assets into a blind trust. As a practical matter it’s likely a complete non-starter,” says Leslie Kiernan, a partner at law firm Akin Gump and a former Deputy White House Counsel under President Barack Obama. For the trust owner to be truly “blind” to his portfolio, the assets typically have to be liquidated first, Kiernan says. The cash can then be funneled into the trust, to be managed by an independent trustee approved by the Office of Government Ethics. Trump would not receive any information on what has been bought or sold with his money, though he could get reports on how much income the portfolio generated as a whole.

This means the New York billionaire would have to sell prized properties like Manhattan’s Trump Tower or Palm Beach’s Mar-a-Lago, and give control of his company to a virtual stranger instead of his children. Moreover, some of his holdings, such as his 30% stake in two office towers majority owned by real estate investment firm Vornado, cannot be sold unless he acquires his partner’s consent.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennife...decessors-did-with-their-assets/#7daf8e7f7915


It like, an impossible position to be in.....
This is gonna be an ongoing problem....there is no precedent for it ..... gonna be interesting to see how it all pans out, but we all
know that no matter how it is handled, the left will be on his ass 24/7....
Rest assured, whatever they do will have to be legal....

 

[NOVA]

Carter's kid, Clinton's kid, Obama's kids all enrolled in DC schools.

So they didn't mind pulling their kids out of their schools mid year.....guess all parents aren't as considerate for their kids welfare as Melina is.....

 

[christiefan915]

So they didn't mind pulling their kids out of their schools mid year.....guess all parents aren't as considerate for their kids welfare as Melina is.....

That's some spin bravs. When I was growing up my parents made all the decisions and I wasn't consulted. The donald and Melania are the kind of parents you cons rail against.

Now if it's shown that Barron has some type of issue (health or whatever) that would make them want to keep him in NYC, that's a different story and I'd agree with the decision.

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

Cite.

WOTUS is a big one, exemption of its Office of Administration from the Freedom of Information Act, infringement by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission on the authority of states to regulate the retail energy market, EPA’s cap-and-trade I can think of 4 instances as part of Obamacare that were blatant, (I'll cite them if you want), violation of the Administrative Procedure Act immigration law with Deferred Action for Parents of Americans. I could go thru all of his EO's and probably find many, many more. This should satisfy you for now.

 

[NOVA]

That's some spin bravs. When I was growing up my parents made all the decisions and I wasn't consulted. The donald and Melania are the kind of parents you cons rail against.

Now if it's shown that Barron has some type of issue (health or whatever) that would make them want to keep him in NYC, that's a different story and I'd agree with the decision.

Are you going to give us the Rosie ODonnell conspiracy ?
Its the middle of the term, a private school, the kids is comfortable there, so that is where he stays, at least for this term....

I don't know where Obama's kids went to school before but Sidwell is probably most likely better....Carter's kid was only 4 when he was elected.
Carter put his kid in a DC public school, mostly black to prove a point....its the parents choice, as it should be...not mine or YOURS.
Who really gives a shit...why does it matter to you, whats the big deal ?
Incidentally, She was eventually dismissed from Brown for academic reasons.
---------------------
Remember this......?
Obama hypocrasy.....(don't do as I do, do as I say)
(CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama told a gathering at Georgetown University on Tuesday that the problem isn't racial segregation, it's wealth segregation, manifested by "elites" who "are able to live together, away from folks who are not as wealthy."
"Kids start going to private schools," he said.

Once upon a time, the president noted, a banker lived in "reasonable proximity" to the school janitor; the janitor's daughter may have dated the banker's son; they may have attended the same church, rotary club, and public parks -- "all the things that stitch them together...contributing to social mobility and to a sense of possibility and opportunity for all kids in that community."

But now "concentrations of wealth" have left some people less committed to investing in programs that benefit the poor:

"And what's happened in our economy is that those who are doing better and better -- more skilled, more educated, luckier, having greater advantages -- are withdrawing from sort of the commons -- kids start going to private schools; kids start working out at private clubs instead of the public parks.
(Just as he did and his own kids do.)

 

[NOVA]

That's some spin bravs. When I was growing up my parents made all the decisions and I wasn't consulted. The donald and Melania are the kind of parents you cons rail against.

Now if it's shown that Barron has some type of issue (health or whatever) that would make them want to keep him in NYC, that's a different story and I'd agree with the decision.

That's some spin bravs. When I was growing up my parents made all the decisions and I wasn't consulted.

So....
What are you trying to imply with this 'observation'....that the 10 demanded to stay at this school in NY ?