Who did more to influence the outcome of this presidential election?

evince said:
there is one problem


your economic positions have NEVER worked in practice as you claim they will


they always crash the economy instead
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Hmmmmmmmmm: Sweetheart, I don't know what ya mean.

I'm a limited gubment Capitalist, and the policies I favor gave this country the greatest economic growth the world ever saw before the Statists started to interfere.

Hong Kong is another spot on example of Capitalism with limited gubment, (not as limited now as pre 1997).

Me thinks yer cornfused n' think I'm some sorta Socialist or some such: see Venezuela if ya want a recent example of the total fail of Marxism.
 
Who did more to lose Hillary the election? That is simple. It was the Clintons

1) They shafted Bernie in the primaries alienating key Obama supporters that didn't turn out for her
2) She installed that private server that dogged her throughout the campaign and never adequately explained it lying every second
3) She called American voters a "basket of deplorables"
4) She collapsed on 9/11 and then tried to cover it up with a lame excuse about pneumonia again proving she is secretive and dishonest
5) She took usual democrat strongholds like Wisconsin and Michigan for granted even though there were warning signs during the primary
6) Bill Clinton got on an airplane with Loretta Lynch right before Hillary was to meet with the FBI showing a high degree of shady insider dealing
7) She ran a shitty campaign
8) She is just not likable
9) Even democrats really didn't want her
10) This was a change election and she was the furthest thing from change there was

That is why she lost the election. The left will blame Comey, Russia, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, me and any other assorted excuse they can find. But the reality is they ran a shitty candidate who was a shitty candidate in 2008. I told them this would happen but they wouldn't listen.
 
callinectes said:
For the sake of argument, let's assume that Putin did indeed attempt to influence the outcome of this election. And also, we look at the actions of those calling for recounts, re-votes, and even the abolition of the electoral college, not to mention the overt pleading and physical threats against electors by leftist activists. Who do you think did more to ACTUALLY influence the outcome of the election?
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I am taking full credit for Michigan......my county gave Trump a higher margin over Hillary than he got in the entire state......I do not take credit for Wisconsin or Pennsylvania, though.......
 
The left wing media influenced the election...but not in the direction they were targeting, it was the perfect example of Irony and Stupidity. They carried Trumps water during the primary refusing to reveal anything negative....that which they were reserving for the General Election. They basically appointed Trump to run against the future queen...KNOWING (they errantly assumed) he would be an easy target to discredit in the General Election...they picked what they thought was an easy to beat Celebrity Clown...they were going to tell him "YOU'RE FIRED". The Clown out FOXED THEM as in fox news, he went over their heads and held open public rallies in all the necessary places....he communicated directly to the people he needed to support him...ignoring the strong liberal states and cities..leaving them to the overconfident leftists.

Game Over. Trump 1 Media 0 Hillary finished White House Gone....Senate Gone....Congress Gone.....and the cherry on the desert? The current and future SCOTUS picks...GONE.

It was the pomposity and elitism that cost the left the election nothing else. The workers of the United States told the welfare puppies and the elite left wing politicians to PISS OFF. Take Mexico's extra state out of the mix...Mexifornia....and Trump wins the popular vote hands down. Meaning: California does not mean a damn thing now a days.....everyone knows its populated by fairies and angel dust. They could have bused in 50 million more Mexicans and would not have helped:)
 
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This crap about the hacked DNC emails is straw man bull to me....

Can any of you honestly claim that you were influenced by them ?....you all know you're minds were made up
and set in concrete from the beginning of this election....

If you weren't influenced into changing your views, what the hell makes you claim everyone else was influenced.....
posts on this sight were just what was expected from the same people....for and against both people....nobody was wavering in their
previous views.....
If anyone influenced the vote, it was Comey and the FBI....his testimony under oath was as powerful as it gets in exposing Hillary for the
liar she is and the danger she put the country in with her handling of secret gov. data....
 
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