Trump sides with Putin over the CIA.

...Russia planned to form 3 new military divisions to counter NATO’s growing military presence in Eastern Europe...

 
Milagro said:
I'll ask you if you are prepared to start a new war based on potentially dodgy intelligence. Seem to recall that didn't work out too well in Iraq.

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Absolutely not but who is asking for war?

What I want and the majority of Americans want to know is this. Did the Russians directly attempt to influence our election and if so to what extent and what are they going to do about it?

I hardly think this question rises to the level of risking war, so spare me the hyperbole.

What I am not going to ignore is an existential threat to my country and an undermining our elections would be such a threat.
 
we are going to have Congressional investigation -maybe even Select Committees.
according to the intelgencies we ( supposedly know) Russia hacked the DNC and Podesta -but not Clinton's ( at least WIKI didn't release Clinton's)

It will all come out in the wash..meanwhile the war pigs are already on the march

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-up-clash-with-trump/?utm_term=.b3c85755d1ce
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), an outspoken Trump critic, is the latest lawmaker to join the fray, stating that his goal in a series of investigations next year “is to put on President Trump’s desk crippling sanctions against Russia,” he wrote on Twitter. “They need to pay a price.”

And on Sunday’s “State of the Union” on CNN, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the Armed Services Committee chair and a hardliner on Russia who believes that country hacked the election, called for a single select committee to investigate the alleged Russian meddling, as did incoming Senate Democratic leader Charles E. Schumer of New York. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has rejected that approach.
 
anatta said:
we are going to have Congressional investigation -maybe even Select Committees.
according to the intelgencies we ( supposedly know) Russia hacked the DNC and Podesta -but not Clinton's ( at least WIKI didn't release Clinton's)

It will all come out in the wash..meanwhile the war pigs are already on the march

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-up-clash-with-trump/?utm_term=.b3c85755d1ce
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), an outspoken Trump critic, is the latest lawmaker to join the fray, stating that his goal in a series of investigations next year “is to put on President Trump’s desk crippling sanctions against Russia,” he wrote on Twitter. “They need to pay a price.”

And on Sunday’s “State of the Union” on CNN, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the Armed Services Committee chair and a hardliner on Russia who believes that country hacked the election, called for a single select committee to investigate the alleged Russian meddling, as did incoming Senate Democratic leader Charles E. Schumer of New York. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has rejected that approach.
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Mott the Hoople said:
Absolutely not but who is asking for war?

What I want and the majority of Americans want to know is this. Did the Russians directly attempt to influence our election and if so to what extent and what are they going to do about it?

I hardly think this question rises to the level of risking war, so spare me the hyperbole.

What I am not going to ignore is an existential threat to my country and an undermining our elections would be such a threat.
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Yes I daresay they may well have attempted to do so, but Assange himself has stated that the leak of Podesta's emails came from an insider.

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Jarod said:
I just wish Trump would be honest. Admit to it, Own it. Come out and say hey this is probably a true report, I don't think it made a difference. Russia should not of done that, and in the future we're gonna make sure they don't do things like that.

Show the world his strength. It makes him look weak to have to pretend things that aren't true.
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And if it's revealed that your hopes and dreams aren't correct, then what??
 
Thing1 said:
Are they wrong in this case, apologist?
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I don't know, they haven't presented any evidence apologist hack.

You're blindly taking their word, while calling them liars when you don't like their conclusions, hack.

Funny how you call people hack all the time, but you're really th e hack.
 
Yaya said:
I don't know, they haven't presented any evidence apologist hack.

You're blindly taking their word, while calling them liars when you don't like their conclusions, hack.

Funny how you call people hack all the time, but you're really th e hack.
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When did I say the CIA or FBI lied?

You just make shit up. It's what stupid people do.
 
blackascoal said:
Obviously, you're not a lawyer.

FBI in agreement with CIA that Russia aimed to help Trump win White House
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ac61c0ef74d_story.html?utm_term=.e4078ba520ef
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OK, so Russia /Putin did what they could to help Trump win. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I really don't see the big deal. As far as I'm concerned they did us a favor keeping hrc from winning.
The British mag The Economist did all they could to help crooked Hillary.
What strikes me is that Podesta and hrc have never denied the content of the leaked emails.
Wikileaks gave us more pertinent information to make a decision.
 
aloysious said:
OK, so Russia /Putin did what they could to help Trump win. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I really don't see the big deal. As far as I'm concerned they did us a favor keeping hrc from winning.
The British mag The Economist did all they could to help crooked Hillary.
What strikes me is that Podesta and hrc have never denied the content of the leaked emails.
Wikileaks gave us more pertinent information to make a decision.
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amazing .. and exactly my point.
 
aloysious said:
OK, so Russia /Putin did what they could to help Trump win. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I really don't see the big deal. As far as I'm concerned they did us a favor keeping hrc from winning.
The British mag The Economist did all they could to help crooked Hillary.
What strikes me is that Podesta and hrc have never denied the content of the leaked emails.
Wikileaks gave us more pertinent information to make a decision.
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That is what it all comes down to. I highly doubt anyone that was voting for Clinton to begin with changed their minds because of those emails.
 
Bill said:
Its fine with you that a foreign country meddled in our elections?? Wtf
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As long as there was no fraud involved, sure. We certainly meddle in other countries' elections. Fuck, we bomb other countries, kill their citizens and walk away. Not that I agree with that.
 
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