America Needs to understand the CIA-Coup is Different than the Bad-Faith-Elector-Coup

Kurmugeon

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There are currently TWO parrallel, and only lightly connected plots going on to prevent Trump from being sworn into office!


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One of them uses the Electors of the Electoral College, as the active denial of office mechanism. It has almost zero chance of suceeding!

It is being driven by angry Progressives who are NOT high level government officials. There are checks and balances at the State Level which can be used to prevent rogue Electors from actually casting ballots for Hillary, instead of Trump, when the State's population voted for Trump.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...-inside-the-electoral-college/article/2609484

This tactic will go NO WHERE!


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This is an actualy threat which very might might achieve the goal of preventing Trump from being sworn into office, and worse, it will leave Obama in Office until Jan, 2019!

This is the CIA backed and pursued attempted Coup in progress.

The active denial mechanism is NOT the bad faith EC Electors.

In the CIA's Coup attempt, the denial mechanism is the COURTS, and a Court Injunction against Trump being allowed to be sworn into office, because, by the CIA's Expert Court Witness Authority, it has been determined BY the CIA, as expressed to the courts, that it was not a Free and Fair Election! The election, in their opinion was deterministicly influenced by Foreign (Russian) interference in the form of the DNC email WikiLeaks.

There is a 1975 Court Precident of doing this in an America Election! This meaning, the current office holder, who is not part of the contest for the next term seat, and is in good standing with the courts, is asked to STAY in POWER for another two years, until a "Do Over" new election can be held. America has done this BEFORE!

This mechanism stands a good chance of actually working, and worse, it keeps OBAMA, who appointed the current head of the CIA, a man of very questionable loyalties, in POWER.

The CIA is merely using the EC Electoral Coup as Cover, while they setup the case for the Court Injunction Mechanism.

We are being PLAYED by the CIA!



Do you understand the TWO DIFFERENT COUPs?


How hard is it to find a Washington D.C. Progressive Judge and Court?



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Here is a telling response from another, left leaning, forum:

I would be OK with the CIA coup working. I do not want Trump in office, and I am more interested in seeing my party stay in power than I am in democratic process. This is politics here, and I will not try to make it sound like I would not lie, cheat, or steal, to ensure that my party stays in power. If our EC plan works, we will leave the Russian hacking thing alone, but for now we need both the EC plan AND the CIA coup plan. If we can wrestle this election back from Trump, we will make sure that the nobody can EVER take our power away, ever again.


Still think it Can't Possibly Happen?

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There are currently TWO parrallel, and only lightly connected plots going on to prevent Trump from being sworn into office!


#1

One of them uses the Electors of the Electoral College, as the active denial of office mechanism. It has almost zero chance of suceeding!

It is being driven by angry Progressives who are NOT high level government officials. There are checks and balances at the State Level which can be used to prevent rogue Electors from actually casting ballots for Hillary, instead of Trump, when the State's population voted for Trump.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...-inside-the-electoral-college/article/2609484

This tactic will go NO WHERE!


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#2

This is an actualy threat which very might might achieve the goal of preventing Trump from being sworn into office, and worse, it will leave Obama in Office until Jan, 2019!

This is the CIA backed and pursued attempted Coup in progress.

The active denial mechanism is NOT the bad faith EC Electors.

In the CIA's Coup attempt, the denial mechanism is the COURTS, and a Court Injunction against Trump being allowed to be sworn into office, because, by the CIA's Expert Court Witness Authority, it has been determined BY the CIA, as expressed to the courts, that it was not a Free and Fair Election! The election, in their opinion was deterministicly influenced by Foreign (Russian) interference in the form of the DNC email WikiLeaks.

There is a 1975 Court Precident of doing this in an America Election! This meaning, the current office holder, who is not part of the contest for the next term seat, and is in good standing with the courts, is asked to STAY in POWER for another two years, until a "Do Over" new election can be held. America has done this BEFORE!

This mechanism stands a good chance of actually working, and worse, it keeps OBAMA, who appointed the current head of the CIA, a man of very questionable loyalties, in POWER.

The CIA is merely using the EC Electoral Coup as Cover, while they setup the case for the Court Injunction Mechanism.

We are being PLAYED by the CIA!



Do you understand the TWO DIFFERENT COUPs?


How hard is it to find a Washington D.C. Progressive Judge and Court?



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It would just be kicked up to SCOTUS and I can't imagine them not overturning the lower court.

Neat theory though.
 
From another thread, but very pertenent to this one:

Ironically, and suspiciously, I got hacked by a computer virus last night, and all of my neatly catagorized and folder separated browser links were erased, along with all of my open notepad files, and my browser history was wiped.

I'll find the link to the 1975 court case again in a few minutes... I found it once, I can find it again.

It won't be the CIA bringing the court case, it will be a "Deeply Concerned" Bi-Partisan (McCain/Pelosi) Congressional request for the Court Injunction.


P.S. I may be in poor health, but I have absolutely no intention of suicide! I've got five Grandkids to love!
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I am sorry, I will be unable to get you that promised link to the 1975 court precident case.

My computer has been badly hacked, much information outright deleted, and as on this moment, I cannot perform in a minor web search.

It is not a web browser accelerator, or cookies and cache, or anything detectable by an anti-virus, anti-malware scan...

When I attempt to do a web search, my whole web browser and a few seconds later, entire OS, locks up, requiring a power cord reset.

I will start with attempting to simply uninstall and re-install my web browser, then, if needed, format the HD and reload from the ground up.

I will proabably be offline for a few days, at the least.

It should say something about this thread, that in Years of posting controvesrial subjects, and occassionally being virus or DOS attacked for making controversial threads... I have NEVER had this level of problems.

Ohh... and I am NOT in any WAY suicidal!

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YES! The CIA has effectively gone rogue and is not answering to civilian authority and everyone is ok with it!
 
Another important distinction between the two Coup attempts:

The first is an attempt to put Hillary in Office instead of Trump.


The Second is an Attempt to KEEP Obama in office for at least the next two years!


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I've found it!

It is rather long and complecated, covered in a PDF file, pages 958 to 972.

In essence, it started with abuse in compaign donations from foreign sugar farmers who were attempting to influence U.S. elections in North Carolina, and its sugar-beet industry, because of restrictions currently in place on the importation of sugar from foreign countries for the manufactur of distilled liquors.

https://www.law.upenn.edu/journals/...sue3/Powell17U.Pa.J.Int'lEcon.L.957(1996).pdf

You can download the file and read allot about the legalities and penalties, including court ordered new elections, in that PDF.

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The only thing any of the leftist coup plans will do is start another civil war. I will die to defend the free and fair election process that elected Trump, the leftists in this country are either muslim, or commie sympathizers period!
 
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The only thing any of the leftist coup plans will do is start another civil war. I will die to defend the free and fair election process that elected Trump, the leftists in this country are either muslim, or commie sympathizers period!

It entirely depends on how the Coup is implemented, and if they can use some shocking event to galvanize a large portion of the American Public into accept court action to block Trump from being sworn into office.

It has happened in History before!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007657

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ns-find-proof-that-Nazis-burnt-Reichstag.html

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I'm seeing a law review article discussing the topic, not a court ruling. I'll keep reading....

I first found the link to the PDF file in another web site discussion about how to Block Trump from taking office, in which an "Off the Record" CIA spokesman was quoted by a reporter as stating that court case law allowed for keeping a current office holder in place, until a new election can be held.

It caught my eye, and I went to the above PDF and read about the creation of the FEC, and its relationship to the problems they were having in the mid-1970s with massive foreign campaign donations heavly affecting local State level elections, due to particular areas of economic competition interest.

I'll continue to search, and see if I cannot find that original article in which the Reporter quoted the "unamed CIA Agent".

Please understand, since I started this thread, I'm under continue DOS and other hacking bombardment.

I have to use other computers with independent IP address web access to accomplish and searches at all, and then sneeker net port over the data found for posting.

I have to restart this computer and its web access links every few minutes because of DOS attacks and crashes.

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Stand by my comments - your posts in this thread consist of wild-eyed conspiracy theories.

You might see it as a wacky conspiracy theory, but the officials in the U.S. top intelligence agencies felt that it was so important to counter the actions and statemnts made by the Brenan led CIA, that they made a RARE, Official public statement after the CIA Brenan claims, refuting the CIA's statements:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-intelligence-idUSKBN14204E

World News
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Tue Dec 13, 2016 | 9:36pm EST




Exclusive: Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking - sources



By Mark Hosenball and Jonathan Landay
| WASHINGTON


The
overseers of the U.S. intelligence community have not embraced a CIA
assessment that Russian cyber attacks were aimed at helping Republican
President-elect Donald Trump win the 2016 election, three American
officials said on Monday.

While
the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) does not
dispute the CIA's analysis of Russian hacking operations, it has not
endorsed their assessment because of a lack of conclusive evidence that
Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton,
said the officials, who declined to be named.

The
position of the ODNI, which oversees the 17 agency-strong U.S.
intelligence community, could give Trump fresh ammunition to dispute the
CIA assessment, which he rejected as "ridiculous" in weekend remarks,
and press his assertion that no evidence implicates Russia in the cyber
attacks.

Trump's rejection of the
CIA's judgment marks the latest in a string of disputes over Russia's
international conduct that have erupted between the president-elect and
the intelligence community he will soon command.

An ODNI spokesman declined to comment on the issue.

"ODNI
is not arguing that the agency (CIA) is wrong, only that they can't
prove intent," said one of the three U.S. officials. "Of course they
can't, absent agents in on the decision-making in Moscow."

The
Federal Bureau of Investigation, whose evidentiary standards require it
to make cases that can stand up in court, declined to accept the CIA's
analysis - a deductive assessment of the available intelligence - for
the same reason, the three officials said.

The
ODNI, headed by James Clapper, was established after the Sept. 11,
2001, attacks on the recommendation of the commission that investigated
the attacks. The commission, which identified major intelligence
failures, recommended the office's creation to improve coordination
among U.S. intelligence agencies.

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The ODNI are serious folks.

You can sneer all you like, the REST of America doesn't find the CIA actions funny, or the this story / issue of frivolous importance!

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It entirely depends on how the Coup is implemented, and if they can use some shocking event to galvanize a large portion of the American Public into accept court action to block Trump from being sworn into office.

It has happened in History before!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007657

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ns-find-proof-that-Nazis-burnt-Reichstag.html

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I would not be surprised at all, if this in itself is a trial balloon to see which situation the public would find more bearable if they try to pull it off, it ends badly for the left wing if they try it!
 
So, now that the leaker has come forward and admitted his guilt, and he was NOT a Russian Hacker...

That means the CIA was LYING to U.S. about what they knew about RUSSIA.

Which means they were planning on using the Common American Belief that Russia had hacked the Election, and collaborated with Trump to do it...

... FOR SOME PURPOSE!

What might that purpose be?!!!!


Answer: Coup Type #2!


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The CIA refused to bring forward their "Evidence" to an official court summons today!?


The guy who did it is admitting it!

The Leak was a State Dept employee for gods sakes, who gave the information to Wikileaks contact Craig Murray at a Washington D.C. Park who then passed it on to Julian Assange.

This is now the biggest security violation investigation since the trial of the Rosenburgs.

This trial might well end with Brenan being executed for TREASON!

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Long live the CIA! The American people never wanted this monster, he has no right to rule over us! He is an evil, foreign enemy, a representative of the Russian government and an evil ideology, not the president-select!

THE PEOPLE WANT TO BRING DOWN THE REGIME!!
 
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