Muslim Immigrants want to "ISlamize" Germany. Hate Christians!

Threedee said:
The Crusades did help to discourage further Muslim incursions into the West.
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Not hardly... The Crusades ended long before the fall of Constantinople, almost two hundred years later..

& even two hundred years after that the "infidel turks" were menacing & ruling until they got their ass kicked @ the battle of Vienna..
 
Bill said:
Not hardly... The Crusades ended long before the fall of Constantinople, almost two hundred years later..

& even two hundred years after that the "infidel turks" were menacing & ruling until they got their ass kicked @ the battle of Vienna..
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Constantinople represented the East, in those days, not the West. Certainly, before the fall of Rome, and in modern times, Greece is appropriately viewed as part of Western Civilization, but it was culturally, religiously, politically, and geographically separated during the Crusades and at the time of the fall of Constantinople in 1453.
 
Irish said:
The crusaders should have finished off Islam in the 1300s. Ridden the world of this cancer.
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The West was at a huge disadvantage from 632 until about 1500. Then, it didn't really hold the advantage until about 1800. But it didn't hold such a dominant position as to "wipe out" Islam until after WWI.
 
danielpalos said:
Rome fell due to lousy management, that is all.
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Rome fell because it was spending a ridiculous amount of its revenue on professional troops, and they were too powerful to take a pay cut, too idle to be taught new ways of fighting. Learn, mark and inwardly digest!
 
iolo said:
Rome fell because it was spending a ridiculous amount of its revenue on professional troops, and they were too powerful to take a pay cut, too idle to be taught new ways of fighting. Learn, mark and inwardly digest!
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nope; just lousy management. The Romans knew how to build aqueducts and roads. Are you claiming Mr. Trump has a flawed Infrastructure plan?
 
iolo said:
Rome fell because it was spending a ridiculous amount of its revenue on professional troops, and they were too powerful to take a pay cut, too idle to be taught new ways of fighting. Learn, mark and inwardly digest!
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There are many reasons Rome fell......... IMHO professional troops likely contributed greatly to it's longevity....

I think we need a thread on the FALL OF ROME........ You in??
 
Done, in the off topic forum..
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