Was Trump the best candidate the GOP could have run?

Dick from the Internet said:
What did you get correct? I don't see why you think not making a prediction makes you a better prognosticator.
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First, knowing the odds is the correct analysis. It was the right way to analyze things rather than just putting ones head in the sand saying "no way no how"

I would routinely say he had a much better chance than the media at large was letting on, even to the point of trying desperately to get you guys all to learn that 30% was not something that would even be unexpected. Posted many articles and anecdotes to that fact.

People forget how "100%" most people were on the prospect of clinton winning/trump losing. They simply couldn't believe a pussy grabber would be elected. I never waivered from my initial analysis or spent time posting outlier polls that fed my own circlejerk.

I routinely said the things like the khan stuff/mexican judge comments/ was being dramatically overhyped and overplayed, much to many people doubts. He basically managed to hit par with most races or even slightly improve.

One thing I was dead set on the mark was that hillary's support was capped and that undecideds would never break for her. I said this like a year ago and many times after. I said they would either break for trump or stay home, but would not go for hillary. They ended up breaking for trump 2:1. The reason for this is that the public has had 30 years to get to know hillary, and the only thing they would be undecided on is voting for trump.

I discussed all the talk about the nevertrumper stuff being overplayed, that the divisions at the convention are mostly overblown and most will come home.

I could go on and on. I am a fucking genius on this site.
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
People forget how "100%" most people were on the prospect of clinton winning/trump losing. They simply couldn't believe a pussy grabber would be elected. I never waivered from my initial analysis or spent time posting outlier polls that fed my own circlejerk.
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tsuke said:
Analysis comes from reddit so not mine. It does analyze on a county by county level which people dont normally do so I wanted to post it here for discussion.

"And then that same real estate developer won, and brought millions of new voters into the Republican Party.

When you think about it, Trump may have been the best thing to happen to the Republican Party in ages. The man brought millions of new voters into the party, not just for him, but also for downballot candidates. Look at Ron Johnson, Marco Rubio and Pat Toomey's re-election maps. They all got unprecedented support for a Republican Senator in white working class areas while holding onto their educated base that Trump didn't do well in. Pat Toomey managed to win both Luzerne and Erie County, two counties he lost in 2010 in a Republican wave year in a much easier race. Rubio managed to put up a record number for a GOP Senator in Pasco County, Ron Johnson did even better in working class areas than he did in 2010, a GOP wave year. In Minnesota, Collin Peterson and Tim Walz almost lost. Nobody even had them on the radar because they were thought to be 100% safe. Meanwhile, to the voters that hated Trump, he was seen as completely independent from the GOP. In the 3 aforementioned Senators' states, Trump did badly in educated Republican Urban areas and suburbs. In Wisconsin, Trump did horribly for the GOP in Waukesha, Ozuakee, and Washington Counties in the Milwuakee Suburbs, but that didn't hurt Johnson at all. He put up the standard GOP margin there. In Pennsylvania, Trump did badly in Chester County, a typically Republican county in Suburban Philadelphia. But not Pat Toomey. He was seen as independent from Trump and won the county. In Florida, Trump did awfully in Miami-Dade County, a record low for the GOP. He also did very poorly in Duval County for a Republican. But not Marco Rubio. He did relatively well in Miami-Dade, losing it by only 11 points, and he won Duval by 16 points.

You see the same thing when you look at House Races. Trump lost Carlos Curbelo's House District by 17 points. Curbelo won re-election by 10. Trump did horribly in Barbara Comstock's wealthy suburban district in Northern Virginia, Romney won the district, but Trump lost it by 10 points. Yet Comstock was re-elected by 5 points. Trump did horribly in Tom Price's suburban Atlanta district, winning a typically heavy GOP seat by only 1 point, yet Price cruised to re-election by 23.

Trump somehow managed to be seen as close enough to the GOP to blue collar workers to bring millions of them into the party, yet at the same time also managed to be seen as independent from the GOP to wealthy educated whites as to not push them away from the GOP. He also delivered them the Supreme Court for a generation and will help them pass their economic agenda & repeal Obamacare. While no one would've thought this a couple months ago, Trump was the best possible thing that could've happened to the GOP. Incredible"
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It is a moronic article in that Trump beat out 16 other candidates and won the election. To ask whether he was the best at this point is an exercise in futility and stupidity. What we DO KNOW is that Hitlery and the corrupt DNC lost. ;)
 
Thing1 said:
He was good for the GOP this year - I don't discount the analysis as far as short-term gain.

But an absolutely huge part of that was that his opponent was Hillary Clinton. People are reading too many sweeping trends into this election. Hillary's ceiling was low. People don't like her.

The biggest lesson for Democrats is that they need to have a more robust primary process, and not coronate candidates who the establishment chooses.
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Yep; in HINDSIGHT, Trumps victory had to be because Hillary was such a terrible candidate....one that nearly EVERYONE predicted would win in a LANDSLIDE.

Good lord; the stupidity is never ending. One thing we can be certain of; the continued mental breakdown of the Liberal left and ongoing buffoonery of pretending to know what the F they are talking about. :rofl2:
 
Thing1 said:
Why should I?

I think you just love the man. The whole "cult of personality" thing, just like tsuke.
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TWIT from the Internet said:
What did you get correct? I don't see why you think not making a prediction makes you a better prognosticator.

Your boy Romney did not beat McCain in 2008 as you had predicted he would. Was the burn from that what turned you into a chicken shit or are you going to maintain that you have always been a chicken shit?
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Truth Detector said:
It is a moronic article in that Trump beat out 16 other candidates and won the election. To ask whether he was the best at this point is an exercise in futility and stupidity. What we DO KNOW is that Hitlery and the corrupt DNC lost. ;)
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I think that if JEB! or Rubio or Cruz won the nomination its debatable whether they would have won the presidency but it would almost be certain the house and senate would have suffered greater losses.
 
tsuke said:
I think that if JEB! or Rubio or Cruz won the nomination its debatable whether they would have won the presidency but it would almost be certain the house and senate would have suffered greater losses.
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I believe that if ANY of the "establishment" candidates had won, we would not have won the White House and lost the Senate. The second guessing by liberal journalists is amusing at best.
 
Truth Detector said:
I believe that if ANY of the "establishment" candidates had won, we would not have won the White House and lost the Senate. The second guessing by liberal journalists is amusing at best.
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For the record I think we would have been screwed if Bernie won as well. I dont think he would have lost any states clinton won except perhaps virginia and nevada and anyone who thinks he would not have gotten the 80000 or so votes in PA and 10000 or so in WI and MI to win is deluding themselves.
 
tsuke said:
For the record I think we would have been screwed if Bernie won as well.
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Bernie would have done much worse in my opinion; which is why the DNC felt compelled to stack the nomination in Hitlery's favor through the efforts of super delegates.

tsuke said:
I dont think he would have lost any states clinton won except perhaps virginia and nevada and anyone who thinks he would not have gotten the 80000 or so votes in PA and 10000 or so in WI and MI to win is deluding themselves.
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My guestimate for a Bernie candidacy would have been about three or four states and a landslide for the Republicans. The DNC understood this as well.
 
Truth: Trump was elected not because of something so "deep" or philosophical. Trump was elected because the left wing propaganda machine (the media) got behind him in the primary giving him exponentially more coverage than the other conservative candidates...while attempting to hide his many historical gaffs....saving them for the general election.

Trump was appointed to run against the Clinton Machine and its political baggage....as a deflection to hide the history actual of Hillary. They assumed Clinton could easily defeat a gaff filled pompous reality tv star once they exposed his faults to the nation. How do we know this is true? Via the projected 95% certain Clinton victory coming from these same propagandists. They thought they had the perfect plan to secure a 3rd Obama term..via proxy.

The irony...they were wrong...so wrong, and the greatest mistake they made with their propaganda generated candidate is the facts of reality: He dragged a great many "kicking and screaming" republicans along on his coattails to secure the Senate, Congress and future SOCTUS picks. Something that surely would not have happened if they would have simply allowed a FREE ELECTION to take place void of outside manipulative forces.

That's not the only mistake these snowflake twerps made.....they decided to steal votes from Mr. Trump in their firewall states of Wis. Michigan, and Pa....by funding a Green Party candidate run...Jill Stein. The reality: She stole just enough votes from HILLARY to give the election and the nation to conservatism. Funny as hell. Historical? Indeed....it will be remembered as the perfect historical example of political stupidity.
 
Sylvia Browne said:
First, knowing the odds is the correct analysis. It was the right way to analyze things rather than just putting ones head in the sand saying "no way no how"

I would routinely say he had a much better chance than the media at large was letting on, even to the point of trying desperately to get you guys all to learn that 30% was not something that would even be unexpected. Posted many articles and anecdotes to that fact.

People forget how "100%" most people were on the prospect of clinton winning/trump losing. They simply couldn't believe a pussy grabber would be elected. I never waivered from my initial analysis or spent time posting outlier polls that fed my own circlejerk.

I routinely said the things like the khan stuff/mexican judge comments/ was being dramatically overhyped and overplayed, much to many people doubts. He basically managed to hit par with most races or even slightly improve.

One thing I was dead set on the mark was that hillary's support was capped and that undecideds would never break for her. I said this like a year ago and many times after. I said they would either break for trump or stay home, but would not go for hillary. They ended up breaking for trump 2:1. The reason for this is that the public has had 30 years to get to know hillary, and the only thing they would be undecided on is voting for trump.

I discussed all the talk about the nevertrumper stuff being overplayed, that the divisions at the convention are mostly overblown and most will come home.

I could go on and on. I am a fucking genius on this site.
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Yeah, your great prognostication was that someone was going to win. Even on that, you were just parroting Silver. So what?

And what about your wrong prediction in 2008? Is it my reminding you of that that has made you go into turtle mode and shrivel up like TDs penis?
 
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