it will be useful to transition her to SOS as well in trumps second turn for an eventual run.
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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) refuses to "play politics"; will work with Donald Trump
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it will be useful to transition her to SOS as well in trumps second turn for an eventual run.
Never heard of her until now .. and now it's becoming clearer.
The Curious Islamophobic Politics of Dem Congressmember Tulsi Gabbard
She's particularly a favorite of right-wing media. Appearing with Fox's Neil Cavuto last week, she lashed out at the White House for holding an extremism summit with Muslim Americans, saying it's a “diversion from what our real focus needs to be. And that focus is on that Islamic extremist threat.” She criticized Obama for saying that “poverty, lack of access to jobs, lack of access to education” is contributing to radicalization. “They are not fueled by materialistic motivation, it's actually a theological, this radical Islamic ideology,” she said, throwing red meat to Fox viewers.
But the case of Tulsi Gabbard becomes less curious and more expected once you look at her links to a different set of ethnic and religious hardliners: the Hindu nationalist Indian Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Since her election to Congress, Gabbard has tied herself closely to this party, which has a history of condoning hatred and violence against India's Muslim minority. Many of her stateside donors and supporters are also big supporters of this movement, which disdains secularism and promotes religious sectarianism.
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The more important point is that her backers are all ideological backers of the BJP, which represents the right-wing, Hindu nationalist wing of Indian politics. Most Indian Americans actually support more progressive politicians; 81 percent of Indian Americans approved of Obama's job approval in 2012, and polling before the presidential election that year found only 5 percent of Indian Americans pledged to back GOP nominee Mitt Romney.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liber...bic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard
Got it .. Trump can have her.
absolutely correct. salafi jihadist are NOT "fueled by materialism" -Appearing with Fox's Neil Cavuto last week, she lashed out at the White House for holding an extremism summit with Muslim Americans, saying it's a “diversion from what our real focus needs to be. And that focus is on that Islamic extremist threat.” She criticized Obama for saying that “poverty, lack of access to jobs, lack of access to education” is contributing to radicalization. “They are not fueled by materialistic motivation, it's actually a theological, this radical Islamic ideology,” she said, throwing red meat to Fox viewers.
no matter what Obama was trying to accomplish here with his "diversion". It IS an "existential threat"
It's an apocalyptic vision for Islam -with the "true Believers" ( my words) doing Allah's will.
It's NOT what I bolded in red no matter how hard one tries to justify otherwise
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
absolutely correct. salafi jihadist are NOT "fueled by materialism" -
no matter what Obama was trying to accomplish here with his "diversion". It IS an "existential threat"
It's an apocalyptic vision for Islam -with the "true Believers" ( my words) doing Allah's will.
It's NOT what I bolded in red no matter how hard one tries to justify otherwise
Then take her on your side of the fence.
Of course once that happens, she'll lose her value to Trump .. AND, the demographics of her district doesn't exactly make for a bright political future as a Trump supporter.
Be my guest .. take her home with you. :0)
No it doesn't.
I just means that you're a Trump supporter.
The fact that I knew there would be great criticisms of her already brewing means that I know democrats better than you do.
Are you a democrat .. on the Left?
Didn't think so.
I saw Chris Matthews tonight with Howard Dean and that black woman with the glasses ( I wish I got her name) who is a long time Bernie supporter. The "Bernie supporter"( forgive my ignorance for not knowing her name) pushed back on Dean's usual mindless partisanship
where Dean went after her as 'campaigning for power where ever it leads her"
She ( glasses Bernie supporter) stepped in and said "I must disagree with the governor (Dean).
Gabbards is a veteran and much like Bernie understands that interventionism is afailed idea that takes us to war with bad consequences"
Dean gulped and looked like he swallowed his tongue..It was so good to see a real anti-interventionist put him in his place! outstanding!
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I saw Chris Matthews tonight with Howard Dean and that black woman with the glasses ( I wish I got her name) who is a long time Bernie supporter. The "Bernie supporter"( forgive my ignorance for not knowing her name) pushed back on Dean's usual mindless partisanship
where Dean went after her as 'campaigning for power where ever it leads her"
She ( glasses Bernie supporter) stepped in and said "I must disagree with the governor (Dean).
Gabbards is a veteran and much like Bernie understands that interventionism is afailed idea that takes us to war with bad consequences"
Dean gulped and looked like he swallowed his tongue..It was so good to see a real anti-interventionist put him in his place! outstanding!
"campaigning for power where ever it leads her" is exactly my impression of her.
She only been in Congress since 2013 and already has a petition for her to run for president.
She'll be easy to get rid of.
anybody that is anti-interventionist, and understands a "no fly" is a receipe for disaster in Syria is a good mind.Then take her on your side of the fence.
Of course once that happens, she'll lose her value to Trump .. AND, the demographics of her district doesn't exactly make for a bright political future as a Trump supporter.
Be my guest .. take her home with you. :0)
Syria is a caldron with Russia as the player - not the US/west
She's the complete opposite of HRClinton. Trump would be a fool not to take her in....
I will keep an eye on this, and see if Trump is capable of seeing talent when he meets it (her).
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Darth Omar
Russian asset
absolutely correct. salafi jihadist are NOT "fueled by materialism" -
no matter what Obama was trying to accomplish here with his "diversion". It IS an "existential threat"
It's an apocalyptic vision for Islam -with the "true Believers" ( my words) doing Allah's will.
It's NOT what I bolded in red no matter how hard one tries to justify otherwise
Like I said, it's a dogma. There's not a better word for it.
be careful who you want out of the party. I confess to not knowing her before this."campaigning for power where ever it leads her" is exactly my impression of her.
She only been in Congress since 2013 and already has a petition for her to run for president.
She'll be easy to get rid of.
Ambition is not a bad thing, as long as it's tempered with skill and knowledge. She is right in tune with us former "Bernie Brothers"
She could just be an opportunist -but I very much like what I've seen of her so far.
dharma in Buddhism /dogma in other religions -yes.Like I said, it's a dogma. There's not a better word for it.
Darth Omar
Russian asset
dharma in Buddhism /dogma in other religions -yes.
Take your word on that lol.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
be careful who you want out of the party. I confess to not knowing her before this.
Ambition is not a bad thing, as long as it's tempered with skill and knowledge. She is right in tune with us former "Bernie Brothers"
She could just be an opportunist -but I very much like what I've seen of her so far.
Then you take her my friend .. and you'd best hurry before her next election. :0)
5 Ways Bernie's Pick for DNC Chair Is Right-Wing as Hell
Hailing from Maui, Hawaii, arguably the most progressive county in the United States, Tulsi is the daughter of Mike Gabbard, a Hawaii state senator and a former Republican who was mired in controversies in the 1990s for his anti-gay positions and policies.
It would appear the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. The congresswoman, while now echoing the Democratic Party’s line on equality, sounded a different tone as a state lawmaker herself, referring to her father's critics as “homosexual extremist supporters.”
Her reactionary politics are manifested in more than just old comments. Last year she voted to bar war refugees from entering the United States at the same time she voiced support for the dictators and airstrikes that helped create them, breaking with her fellow Democrats to join the most far-right xenophobes in Congress.
That record is why author and Democratic Party activist Shay Chan Hodges has decided to run against Gabbard this year. Hodges argues that Gabbard simply isn’t progressive enough to represent Maui. Here are five reasons why she’s spot on.
1. A Friend of the Far Right and a Darling of Fox News
2. She Espouses Islamophobic Rhetoric
3. She Wants to Bomb Syria and Ban Refugees
4. She’s Friendly with Dictators and Other Scumbags
5. She’s an Ardent Supporter of Israeli Aggression
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/an...hair-Is-Right-Wing-as-Hell-20160609-0025.html
I suggest you hurry.
This is why the Bernie Sanders movement is more important than Bernie Sanders.
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Then you take her my friend .. and you'd best hurry before her next election. :0)
reads like not wanting 65k Syrian refugees like Clinton wants ( an amount that is unvettable in a year). and "dictators?? really?Her reactionary politics are manifested in more than just old comments. Last year she voted to bar war refugees from entering the United States at the same time she voiced support for the dictators and airstrikes that helped create them,
Who does that sound like?????
Maybe our old pal Muhammad Ghadaffi as characterized by Obama/Hillary?? Or maybe Assad? do we want another humanitarian war??
Please DECODE what you read good brother -don't back neocons- and from everything I know about her she is from the Bernie wing of the party-
not the Clintonian warmongers.
I suggest you look at this list more carefully for bogus attributions.1. A Friend of the Far Right and a Darling of Fox News
2. She Espouses Islamophobic Rhetoric
3. She Wants to Bomb Syria and Ban Refugees
4. She’s Friendly with Dictators and Other Scumbags
5. She’s an Ardent Supporter of Israeli Aggression
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/an...hair-Is-Right-Wing-as-Hell-20160609-0025.html
I suggest you hurry.
indeed. don't throw out that wing of the partyThis is why the Bernie Sanders movement is more important than Bernie Sanders.
Never heard of her until now .. and now it's becoming clearer.
The Curious Islamophobic Politics of Dem Congressmember Tulsi Gabbard
She's particularly a favorite of right-wing media. Appearing with Fox's Neil Cavuto last week, she lashed out at the White House for holding an extremism summit with Muslim Americans, saying it's a “diversion from what our real focus needs to be. And that focus is on that Islamic extremist threat.” She criticized Obama for saying that “poverty, lack of access to jobs, lack of access to education” is contributing to radicalization. “They are not fueled by materialistic motivation, it's actually a theological, this radical Islamic ideology,” she said, throwing red meat to Fox viewers.
But the case of Tulsi Gabbard becomes less curious and more expected once you look at her links to a different set of ethnic and religious hardliners: the Hindu nationalist Indian Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Since her election to Congress, Gabbard has tied herself closely to this party, which has a history of condoning hatred and violence against India's Muslim minority. Many of her stateside donors and supporters are also big supporters of this movement, which disdains secularism and promotes religious sectarianism.
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The more important point is that her backers are all ideological backers of the BJP, which represents the right-wing, Hindu nationalist wing of Indian politics. Most Indian Americans actually support more progressive politicians; 81 percent of Indian Americans approved of Obama's job approval in 2012, and polling before the presidential election that year found only 5 percent of Indian Americans pledged to back GOP nominee Mitt Romney.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liber...bic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard
Got it .. Trump can have her.
everyone is anti islamic unless they are islamic
Then you take her my friend .. and you'd best hurry before her next election. :0)
5 Ways Bernie's Pick for DNC Chair Is Right-Wing as Hell
Hailing from Maui, Hawaii, arguably the most progressive county in the United States, Tulsi is the daughter of Mike Gabbard, a Hawaii state senator and a former Republican who was mired in controversies in the 1990s for his anti-gay positions and policies.
It would appear the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. The congresswoman, while now echoing the Democratic Party’s line on equality, sounded a different tone as a state lawmaker herself, referring to her father's critics as “homosexual extremist supporters.”
Her reactionary politics are manifested in more than just old comments. Last year she voted to bar war refugees from entering the United States at the same time she voiced support for the dictators and airstrikes that helped create them, breaking with her fellow Democrats to join the most far-right xenophobes in Congress.
That record is why author and Democratic Party activist Shay Chan Hodges has decided to run against Gabbard this year. Hodges argues that Gabbard simply isn’t progressive enough to represent Maui. Here are five reasons why she’s spot on.
1. A Friend of the Far Right and a Darling of Fox News
2. She Espouses Islamophobic Rhetoric
3. She Wants to Bomb Syria and Ban Refugees
4. She’s Friendly with Dictators and Other Scumbags
5. She’s an Ardent Supporter of Israeli Aggression
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/an...hair-Is-Right-Wing-as-Hell-20160609-0025.html
I suggest you hurry.
This is why the Bernie Sanders movement is more important than Bernie Sanders.
Bernie and Hilllary made a great pair....
Mr. FreeShit and Mrs. Bullshit.....
what is Islamic? is Da'ish Islamic? The Muslim Brotherhood? are "dictators?"everyone is anti islamic unless they are islamic
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
everyone is anti islamic unless they are islamic
Wrong
This is going to sound unrelated .. but who told you that Bin Laden was behind 9/11.
Bush and Cheney say that they didn't tell you that.
You probably don't even remember who plugged it into your brain.
That's my point.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Bernie and Hilllary made a great pair....
Mr. FreeShit and Mrs. Bullshit.....
Is that like a question .. or just an outpouring of emotion? :0)
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
reads like not wanting 65k Syrian refugees like Clinton wants ( an amount that is unvettable in a year). and "dictators?? really?
Who does that sound like?????
Maybe our old pal Muhammad Ghadaffi as characterized by Obama/Hillary?? Or maybe Assad? do we want another humanitarian war??
Please DECODE what you read good brother -don't back neocons- and from everything I know about her she is from the Bernie wing of the party-
not the Clintonian warmongers.
I suggest you look at this list more carefully for bogus attributions.
indeed. don't throw out that wing of the party
I don't understand. If you like her, you take her.
You should know that her only value to Trump is her being a democrat .. but I'm willing to bet that she won't have that seat by the next election.
She's a Hindu .. and you guys seriously need some diversity in your party anyway you can get it.
There is little to no mood within the party for any weak-kneed democrats anxious to work with Trump. You didn't know that?
Question: why do you think any democrat should work with Trump when your side wouldn't work with Obama, and vowed not to work with Clinton even before the election was over?
she looks good on Syria and Russian relationsI don't understand. If you like her, you take her.
If Trump was smart ( insert laugh line here!) He'd put her in for UN representative..what an improvement over Powers -huh??You should know that her only value to Trump is her being a democrat .. but I'm willing to bet that she won't have that seat by the next election.
point of order I-myself am not a partisan , but a little Hare Krishna pleases the godsShe's a Hindu .. and you guys seriously need some diversity in your party anyway you can get it.
nobody in the Dems is in a bipartisan mood? wow. although I can't say i'm surprised given the nature of 21st century US politicsThere is little to no mood within the party for any weak-kneed democrats anxious to work with Trump. You didn't know that?
I like her comment in the OP /thread titleQuestion: why do you think any democrat should work with Trump when your side wouldn't work with Obama, and vowed not to work with Clinton even before the election was over?
Darth Omar
Russian asset
she looks good on Syria and Russian relations
If Trump was smart ( insert laugh line here!) He'd put her in for UN representative..what an improvement over Powers -huh??
point of order I-myself am not a partisan , but a little Hare Krishna pleases the gods
nobody in the Dems is in a bipartisan mood? wow. although I can't say i'm surprised given the nature of 21st century US politics
I like her comment in the OP /thread title
Dems won't be in a bipartisan mood until Trump submits something they like lol. Then what? Trump is no Obama: he's not an ideological animal but a pragmatist who wants to move things along. He's closer to Bill Clinton than anything.
But Gabbard is a strange animal for a democrat: former military, hasn't drank the PC punch on Islam and supports Bernie.
Strange mix.