How tides have changed

It's hardly as one-sided as you guys portray. The Times and MSNBC go into campaign mode, but so does Fox & talk radio.

I heard Laura Ingraham taking Juan Williams to task for calling Trump's cabinet nominees "radicals," and say that's exactly why mainstream America doesn't trust the media. But what were she & her colleagues saying about the Obama admin for 8 solid years?

The whole "media bias" thing is so played. There is no such thing as objective journalism anymore, and every outlet has an agenda. It's not as uniformly left as you'd have us believe.
The other guy does it too excuse?

if you watched fox...It's become much more MS then it was under Aisles- in fact one of the best moderators was Chris Wallace -
unlike Lester Holt's constant interruptions.

anyways..Look at the sheer number of LW reporters. That black dude (Van Jones?) on CNN who called Trump's election"whitelash"
and Donna Brazile feeding Clinton the answers to the debates. It wasn't called the Clinton News Network for no reason

Worse then all of that is WaPo - not only was EVERY EDITORIAL vehemently anti-Trump;
it even imported #NeverTrumps as guest writers. They hired 20 new reporters dedicated to going after Trump.

MSNBC to this day uses old campaign statement to categorize Trump ( Muslim ban/deporting 11 milliion illegals by a deportation squad)

The bias is heavy, and systemic against Trump from virtually all the so called MS press
 
The other guy does it too excuse?

if you watched fox...It's become much more MS then it was under Aisles- in fact one of the best moderators was Chris Wallace -
unlike Lester Holt's constant interruptions.

anyways..Look at the sheer number of LW reporters. That black dude (Van Jones?) on CNN who called Trump's election"whitelash"
and Donna Brazile feeding Clinton the answers to the debates. It wasn't called the Clinton News Network for no reason

Worse then all of that is WaPo - not only was EVERY EDITORIAL vehemently anti-Trump;
it even imported #NeverTrumps as guest writers. They hired 20 new reporters dedicated to going after Trump.

MSNBC to this day uses old campaign statement to categorize Trump ( Muslim ban/deporting 11 milliion illegals by a deportation squad)

The bias is heavy, and systemic against Trump from virtually all the so called MS press

I mean, you completely undermine your own argument w/ the bolded. For starters, Van Jones isn't a reporter. He is a panelist on CNN. I watched those panels quite frequently. For every Van Jones, they had Trump loyalists like Kayleigh McEnany and Jeffrey Lord. Those panels were split right down the middle - they made sure to have as many Trump supporters as Clinton supporters, and no one made any bones about who they were supporting. Those were opinion shows.
 
You guys really need to go out and burn some brush piles and cull some calves. Set some fence post and muck some stalls. Set the hog traps. By supper time you wont give a shit who is President :)
 
I mean, you completely undermine your own argument w/ the bolded. For starters, Van Jones isn't a reporter. He is a panelist on CNN. I watched those panels quite frequently. For every Van Jones, they had Trump loyalists like Kayleigh McEnany and Jeffrey Lord. Those panels were split right down the middle - they made sure to have as many Trump supporters as Clinton supporters, and no one made any bones about who they were supporting. Those were opinion shows.
I mentioned it as an extremist position -that guy is a regular. 'Whitelash" is as racist as "blacklash" - and I saw that show
and none of the other panelist went after him for making an overtly racist characterization/slur.

It was creepy that was his first characterization; can you imagine anyone going after Clinton supporters as "blacklash"?
It would have rightly been front page.

But the point is FOX daytime is still crap - but it's news is not. The 6PM report is one of the best -
and it's not biased.
Compare that to WaPo and NYTimes hard news..Fox sets the standard for hard news journalism -that's how far down the rabbit hole we've gone
 
so lies made to the people during ones campaign is ok, but others, only if it comes from the opponent??????

All politicians lie, most of them all the time. Tell me you already know this.
This is also what makes Wasserman's treachery more henious, Bernie's honesty, so uncommon in politics at any time.

Further and regardless, one is certainly allowed to change their mind.
What else could he have done other than give his votors to Trump?
 
I mentioned it as an extremist position -that guy is a regular. 'Whitelash" is as racist as "blacklash" - and I saw that show
and none of the other panelist went after him for making an overtly racist characterization/slur.

It was creepy that was his first characterization; can you imagine anyone going after Clinton supporters as "blacklash"?
It would have rightly been front page.

But the point is FOX daytime is still crap - but it's news is not. The 6PM report is one of the best -
and it's not biased.
Compare that to WaPo and NYTimes hard news..Fox sets the standard for hard news journalism -that's how far down the rabbit hole we've gone

The Trumpsters on those panels are just as offensive and over-the-top. That's the point of those panels. There is nothing biased toward one side at all. The Trump supporters are regulars, too. Kayleigh & Jeffrey were on every night, and there were 4-5 others that they would put in the mix regularly.

I thought "whitelash" was pretty accurate, myself. I know people don't like the whole "identity politics" thing, but when a big part of one campaign is racism & xenophobia, it is what it is.

Fox's overall content is still overwhelmingly conservative. If you want to compare straight news shows, CNN and Fox are roughly equal. Fox's hard news content in '12 was horrific - more blatant campaign-mode than I have seen out of any news outfit. They were absolutely desperate to beat Obama. But you're probably correct that it has changed since Ailes moved on.
 
I mentioned it as an extremist position -that guy is a regular. 'Whitelash" is as racist as "blacklash" - and I saw that show
and none of the other panelist went after him for making an overtly racist characterization/slur.

It was creepy that was his first characterization; can you imagine anyone going after Clinton supporters as "blacklash"?
It would have rightly been front page.

But the point is FOX daytime is still crap - but it's news is not. The 6PM report is one of the best -
and it's not biased.
Compare that to WaPo and NYTimes hard news..Fox sets the standard for hard news journalism -that's how far down the rabbit hole we've gone

NO YOU FUCKING IDIOT. FOX ISN'T EVEN NEWS IT IS ENTERTAINMEMT.
UNBELIEVABLE.
 
The Trumpsters on those panels are just as offensive and over-the-top. That's the point of those panels. There is nothing biased toward one side at all. The Trump supporters are regulars, too. Kayleigh & Jeffrey were on every night, and there were 4-5 others that they would put in the mix regularly.

I thought "whitelash" was pretty accurate, myself. I know people don't like the whole "identity politics" thing, but when a big part of one campaign is racism & xenophobia, it is what it is.

Fox's overall content is still overwhelmingly conservative. If you want to compare straight news shows, CNN and Fox are roughly equal. Fox's hard news content in '12 was horrific - more blatant campaign-mode than I have seen out of any news outfit. They were absolutely desperate to beat Obama. But you're probably correct that it has changed since Ailes moved on.
well i haven't seen many panelsits -so OK I take your word on it.
FOX news (not opinion) is damn good -Catherine Herridge was on top of all the Clinton emails and the Clinton Foundation.
Aside she brings excellent foreign coverage.

I don't consider that "campaigning" -it was news just as much as the FBI investigation.
Check it out sometimes -just heteh 6PM report and see whatn you think ( forget the commentary)
-yes Aisles being gone has upped the quality
 
NYTimes said itin their own words -and now apologizes for it:
http://nypost.com/2016/11/11/new-york-times-we-blew-it-on-trump/

Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. admitted the paper failed to appreciate Donald Trump’s appeal.

“After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters?”

While insisting his staff had “reported on both candidates fairly,” he also vowed that the paper would “rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor.”

Ah, there’s the rub. Had the paper actually been fair to both candidates, it wouldn’t need to rededicate itself to honest reporting. And it wouldn’t have been totally blindsided by Trump’s victory.

Instead, because it demonized Trump from start to finish, it failed to realize he was onto something. And because the paper decided that Trump’s supporters were a rabble of racist rednecks and homophobes, it didn’t have a clue about what was happening in the lives of the Americans who elected the new president.

Sulzberger’s letter alludes to this, promising that the paper will “striv[e] always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you.”

But bad or sloppy journalism doesn’t fully capture the Times’ sins. Not after it announced that it was breaking its rules of coverage because Trump didn’t deserve fairness.

As media columnist Jim Rutenberg put it in August, most Times reporters saw Trump “as an abnormal and potentially dangerous candidate” and thus couldn’t be even-handed.


That wasn’t one reporter talking — it was policy. The standards, developed over decades to force reporters and editors to be fair and to build public trust, were effectively eliminated as too restrictive for the Trump phenomenon.

The man responsible for that rash decision, top editor Dean Baquet, later said the Rutenberg piece “nailed” his thinking, and went on to insist that Trump “challenged our language” and that “He will have changed journalism.”

Baquet also said of the struggle for fairness, “I think that Trump has ended that struggle,” adding: “we now say stuff. We fact-check him. We write it more powerfully that it’s false.”

Baquet was wrong. Trump indeed was challenging, but it was Baquet who changed journalism. He’s the one who decided that the standards of fairness and nonpartisanship could be broken without consequence.

After that, the floodgates opened, and virtually every so-called news article reflected a clear bias against Trump and in favor of Clinton. Stories, photos, headlines, placement in the paper — all the tools were used to pick a president, the facts be damned.


Now the bill is coming due. Shocked by Trump’s victory and mocked even by liberals for its bias, the paper is also apparently bleeding readers — and money.

I’ve gotten letters from people who say they canceled their Times subscriptions and, to judge from a cryptic line in a Thursday article, the problem is more than anecdotal.

Citing reader anger over election coverage, Rutenberg wrote, “Most ominously, it came in the form of canceled subscriptions.”
Hey idiot, the editor can be as biased as he wants to.
Shut the fuck up.
 
Tell you what ass breath.
The emails didn't kill Hillary, ignoring middle America killed Hillary.
Wasserman threw Sanders out with the bathwater; may she rot in eternal hell for it.

Then why was Hillary's campaign people saying that the FBI derailed her chances, after she lost??
 
The asshole revealed that the only thing he had was the ability to insult. He had and still has the policy knowledge of a chimpanzee. We had audio of him bragging about grabbing pussy. He mocks disabled people - we have that video.

Sorry pally boy. Your idiot is nothing more than a snake oil salesman that sold you a bill of goods. You'd better hope that tonic not only dulls your pain, but also gets the shit stains out of your shorts. You'll need it for both.

And yet, Hillary and the liberals LOST!! :D

:dealwithit:
 
And let me tell ya, deshy - you're gonna have a fun time carrying water for tweety the next 4 years.

Can't wait.

You accusing anyone of carrying water for someone, is highly amusing; because not only are you proud to have carried the water for Hillary, but you dug the well, brought the bucket, and even the rope to haul it up.

:lol:
 
You poor motherfuckers can't stand the FACT he is your President. Now THAT is some funny shit. I wish you assholes would learn to eat your crow with some dignity. But expecting dignity from leftist morons is about as likely as wishing you morons would stop being prolific lying hypocritical assholes. :rofl2:

Listen here cocksucker and face the truth. More people voted AGAINST him than FOR him. What the fuck does that tell you, idiot. Yeah, the idiosyncrasies of the EC put him in office. Just like GW. GW lost the popular vote by about 3X LESS than Orangetweet. And he was a miserable failure.

Face it, cunt. MORE Americans wanted the other candidate. But now you own this pathetic, clueless moron. Let's watch him enact all the bullshit he sold to you stupid fucking lemmings. I can't wait.
 
Not the exact words I'd use, but yeah.

The media's reputation wasn't great to begin with it and it's at an all time low after the election. In a certain sense, Trump has already been a success: he forced the media to expose themselves as partisan shills for liberal democrats and their leftist agenda.

Main Stream Media:
NBC - Nothing But Clinton
CNN - Clinton News Network
CBS - Clinton Bull Shit
ABC - Above Bashing Clinton
 
It's hardly as one-sided as you guys portray. The Times and MSNBC go into campaign mode, but so does Fox & talk radio.

I heard Laura Ingraham taking Juan Williams to task for calling Trump's cabinet nominees "radicals," and say that's exactly why mainstream America doesn't trust the media. But what were she & her colleagues saying about the Obama admin for 8 solid years?

The whole "media bias" thing is so played. There is no such thing as objective journalism anymore, and every outlet has an agenda. It's not as uniformly left as you'd have us believe.

Let us know if you get tired of carrying water for Hillary and the DNC. :D
 
Listen here cocksucker and face the truth. More people voted AGAINST him than FOR him. What the fuck does that tell you, idiot. Yeah, the idiosyncrasies of the EC put him in office. Just like GW. GW lost the popular vote by about 3X LESS than Orangetweet. And he was a miserable failure.

Face it, cunt. MORE Americans wanted the other candidate. But now you own this pathetic, clueless moron. Let's watch him enact all the bullshit he sold to you stupid fucking lemmings. I can't wait.

Hillary and the liberals lost.

:dealwithit:
 
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