Trump Camp’s Talk of Registry and Japanese Internment Raises Muslim Fears

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A prominent supporter of Donald J. Trump set off concern and condemnation on behalf of Muslims on Wednesday after citing World War II-era Japanese-American internment camps as a “precedent” for an immigrant registry suggested by a member of the president-elect’s transition team.

The supporter, Carl Higbie... was referring to a suggestion by Kris Kobach, a member of Mr. Trump’s transition team, that the new administration could reinstate a national registry for immigrants from countries where terrorist groups were active.

“We’ve done it based on race, we’ve done it based on religion, we’ve done it based on region,” Mr. Higbie said in an appearance on “The Kelly File.” “We’ve done it with Iran back — back a while ago. We did it during World War II with Japanese.”

He stood by his comments in a phone interview on Thursday morning, saying that he had been alluding to the fact that the Supreme Court had “upheld things as horrific as Japanese internment camps.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...ent-raises-muslim-fears/ar-AAkpSAH?li=BBnb7Kz
 
Comrade Watermark said:
Give him a chance!!!!
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I read this on Slate and it sums up my feelings about giving him a chance. (I know you're being facetious but I needed a place to put this.) :)

"I do not think “give Donald Trump a chance” is a useful piece of advice, although plenty of people who ought to know better have suggested it over the last week. I think Donald Trump has had a more than adequate chance to demonstrate his values over the decades of his life as a public figure; we have all the information we need to make an informed assessment of his character.

I think he did not initially disavow his endorsement by David Duke and other white nationalists because he did not wish to, because his very political existence depends upon their support, and to suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

I think he chose a running mate who supports LGBT conversion therapy because he does not care about the safety or well-being of queer people, and I think he called for a national database of Muslim people because he doesn’t care about religious freedom and is happy to profit from Islamophobia. I think he mocked a disabled reporter because he doesn’t care about people with disabilities.

I think he is exactly the person he has presented himself as. I think there is no reason to expect him to suddenly display restraint after being given presidential power."
 
The Bush-era registry that just happened to target majority-Muslim countries

The difference between a “Muslim database” and a “database of particular people in the US from particular countries, which happen to be majority Muslim” might seem like a meaningless distinction, something to give a gloss of neutrality to something clearly discriminatory. But that gloss of neutrality matters a lot. It’s the reason the federal government was able to keep a database for a decade. And it’s probably the reason you might not have known that database existed at all.

...to Muslim American and civil rights groups, the fact that the Bush administration was responding to 9/11 by ordering thousands of Muslim men to show up to register with the government was de facto discriminatory.

...according to the American Civil Liberties Union, no one registered with NSEERS was ever actually convicted of a terrorism-related crime before deportation.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/16/13649764/trump-muslim-register-database
 
christiefan915 said:
A prominent supporter of Donald J. Trump set off concern and condemnation on behalf of Muslims on Wednesday after citing World War II-era Japanese-American internment camps as a “precedent” for an immigrant registry suggested by a member of the president-elect’s transition team.

The supporter, Carl Higbie... was referring to a suggestion by Kris Kobach, a member of Mr. Trump’s transition team, that the new administration could reinstate a national registry for immigrants from countries where terrorist groups were active.

“We’ve done it based on race, we’ve done it based on religion, we’ve done it based on region,” Mr. Higbie said in an appearance on “The Kelly File.” “We’ve done it with Iran back — back a while ago. We did it during World War II with Japanese.”

He stood by his comments in a phone interview on Thursday morning, saying that he had been alluding to the fact that the Supreme Court had “upheld things as horrific as Japanese internment camps.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...ent-raises-muslim-fears/ar-AAkpSAH?li=BBnb7Kz
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You have his quote....“We’ve done it based on race, we’ve done it based on religion, we’ve done it based on region,” Mr. Higbie said in an appearance on “The Kelly File.” “We’ve done it with Iran back — back a while ago. We did it during World War II with Japanese.”

Where in that quote does it mention "interment camps" ?.....I'll tell you, NOWHERE....he was referring to extreme vetting and database registry of immigrants entering the US.....no interment camps.....

Obviously, when we were at war with the Japanese, IMMIGRANTS from Japan certainly were not allowed to just waltz in the US...the interment camps had nothing to do with immigrants, the camps detained Japanese already in the country, even Japanese US citizens.....under the orders of a Democrat President....

and the program Higbie is referring to is a regulation already on the books and was in use until 2011....3 years under the Obama administration....and again, has nothing to do with camps or incarcerating anyone....

If you'd watched the Kelly File instead of getting the spin and mis characterization of what he said from the liars on MSNBC you'd know better.

And the SC did uphold the interment camps of WWII, a fact that is irrelevant in this discussion....
 
christiefan915 said:
A prominent supporter of Donald J. Trump set off concern and condemnation on behalf of Muslims on Wednesday after citing World War II-era Japanese-American internment camps as a “precedent” for an immigrant registry suggested by a member of the president-elect’s transition team.

The supporter, Carl Higbie... was referring to a suggestion by Kris Kobach, a member of Mr. Trump’s transition team, that the new administration could reinstate a national registry for immigrants from countries where terrorist groups were active.

“We’ve done it based on race, we’ve done it based on religion, we’ve done it based on region,” Mr. Higbie said in an appearance on “The Kelly File.” “We’ve done it with Iran back — back a while ago. We did it during World War II with Japanese.”

He stood by his comments in a phone interview on Thursday morning, saying that he had been alluding to the fact that the Supreme Court had “upheld things as horrific as Japanese internment camps.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...ent-raises-muslim-fears/ar-AAkpSAH?li=BBnb7Kz
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This is why no one should take the fantastical right wing, seriously about economics or the law.

The Japanese got an official apology for that.
 
danielpalos said:
This is why no one should take the fantastical right wing, seriously about economics or the law.

The Japanese got an official apology for that.
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...the facts are that a Democrat President used interment camps and it was upheld by the SC.....
That is the point Mr. Higbie made....What was your point ?.
 
NOVA said:

...the facts are that a Democrat President used interment camps and it was upheld by the SC.....
That is the point Mr. Higbie made....What was your point ?.
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I don't approve of what Roosevelt did. It was a hateful, bigoted chickenshit move. That being said, the US was fighting a world war at the time. Roosevelt wasn't putting them into camps before the war. trumpists don't have that excuse.
 
NOVA said:

...the facts are that a Democrat President used interment camps and it was upheld by the SC.....
That is the point Mr. Higbie made....What was your point ?.
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This is why no one should take the fantastical right wing, seriously about economics or the law.

The Japanese got an official apology for that.
 
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