Trump is dangerously naive on military

NOVA said:
Kinda like when we all talk about Hillary in an op....what do we get in return...Trump, pussy, Trump, bankrupt, Trump Putin.
Well, you reap what you sow....

besides, my post is certainly on the threat subject....the military naiveté of presidents, paste present and future, acting on their own....
but ignore my post, as you usually do, rather than respond to my point.

Done.
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I think I need you to do this. I need you to look at the bolded. Then, look at my OP, and your first response to my OP.

If you don't get it, then repeat the above steps until you do.
 
Thing1 said:
I think I need you to do this. I need you to look at the bolded. Then, look at my OP, and your first response to my OP.

If you don't get it, then repeat the above steps until you do.
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Do I really have to explain this like I would to a 12 year old....

It was an attempt to get YOU to look at the actions of Clinton and Obama in their military endeavors over their combined 16 years in office....in other words, History...

neither of them having any military experience yet taking military actions without so much as an nod from the Congress of the US.....what you unrealistically fear is the unknown and

what your overactive imagination dreams up for you,
While keeping in mind that Trump never held office and obviously never fucked up a military action or fucked up on foreign policy.....
 
NOVA said:
Do I really have to explain this like I would to a 12 year old....

It was an attempt to get YOU to look at the actions of Clinton and Obama in their military endeavors over their combined 16 years in office....in other words, History...

neither of them having any military experience yet taking military actions without so much as an nod from the Congress of the US.....what you unrealistically fear is the unknown and

what your overactive imagination dreams up for you,
While keeping in mind that Trump never held office and obviously never fucked up a military action or fucked up on foreign policy.....
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My "overactive imagination" didn't dream up that Trump tweeted that Mosul - which has gone great - was a "disaster" of an operation. My "overactive imagination" didn't dream up that Trump has constantly talked about military strategy in terms of "surprise attacks," which shows a woeful knowledge of exactly what I described in the OP - that sometimes, it is strategically important to announce that you're going to attack.

And those things, coincidentally, are exactly what YOU avoided addressing, when you immediately responded "Bill Clinton!"

Get it?
 
tsuke said:
because the person who would like to work with the other major army in syria (russia) is just crazy. At this point I dont think a majority of americans care if assad stays in power or not.
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Did Americans ever give a shit??? Before this happen 90% could no have named him or found Syria on a map.............

The don strategy-knock the hell of them:palm:
 
NOVA said:
The real question is, "how many times are we going to 'liberate' the same places over and over again".....

The cost of not protecting the city the first time around,

On 30 March 2016, ISIL electrocuted at least 15 civilians in the central Bab al-Toub neighborhood of Mosul, for allegedly collaborating with the government and passing information to state officials.[SUP][34][/SUP]
On 7 April, ISIL executed 18 civilians after accusing them of spying for the Kurdish Peshmerga forces and Iraqi army. Eight of them were publicly beheaded in central Mosul, while ten others were burned to death inside a cage in front of hundreds of people.[SUP][35][/SUP]
On 12 April, a source in Nineveh Province stated that ISIL carried out an execution in front of a student's house, in the village of al-Haj Ali in Makhmur District, and in the presence of all the people in the village, for collaborating with the security forces.[SUP][36][/SUP]
On 21 April, ISIS executed at least 250 women when they refused to become sex slaves.[SUP][210][/SUP]
On 2 May, ISIS executed 17 citizens in Mosul for refusing to join the battles against the Iraqi security forces.[SUP][37][/SUP]
On the evening of 8 May, ISIS members executed eight civilians by firing squad in al-Ghazlani camp in central Mosul on charges of collaborating with the opposing security forces, ISIS members filmed the execution of the civilians after being sentenced to death by the so-called Sharia Court in Nineveh Province and threw the bodies in a hole in western part of the city.[SUP][38][/SUP]
On 11 May, ISIS buried alive 45 of their own fighters in Qayyarah for fleeing a battle near Bashir.[SUP][211][/SUP][SUP][212][/SUP]
On 19 May, in the city of Mosul, ISIS executed 25 suspected spies by lowering them into a tub of nitric acid. According to witnesses, the victims were tied together with rope before being lowered into a basin containing the corrosive acid.[SUP][39][/SUP]
On 22 June, the group executed 4 of its own commanders for deserting their posts during a battle near Mosul.[SUP][28][/SUP] On 27 July, the group executed 17 of its own commanders for escaping from the frontlines in the battle for the town of Qayyarah.[SUP][27][/SUP]
On 29 July, the group executed 20 civilians alleging that they were cooperating with pro-government forces according to the head of the Nineveh media center.[SUP][40][/SUP] On 20 August, ISIS killed 14 civilians in al-Faisaliah, central Mosul for allegedly collaborating with the pro-government forces.[SUP][41][/SUP] On 23 August, the group executed 6 of its commanders by flamethrowers for trying to escape to Syria.[SUP][29][/SUP] On August 31, 9 youths alleged to be part of an anti-ISIL resistance group were reported to have been executed with electric chainsaws in Mosul.[SUP][42][/SUP]
On 3 September, the group executed 17 of its own members for fleeing from the battle of Qayyarah.[SUP][30][/SUP] The group executed 8 civilians on 12 September by drowning them after charging them of collaborating with Iraqi forces and Peshmerga.[SUP][43][/SUP] On 19 September, five workers of internet cafes were executed on the charge of collaborating with Iraqi security forces.[SUP][44][/SUP] On 20 September, the group executed 6 civilians in Mosul by welding, accusing them of belonging to an anti-ISIL resistance faction.[SUP][45][/SUP] On 22 September, 6 civilians were burned to death on the charges of spying.[SUP][46][/SUP]
On 24 September, ISIL executed 3 of its fighters for fleeing during the battle of Shirqat.[SUP][32][/SUP] 25 civilians who were accused of cooperting with Iraqi security forces were also executed in a similar way to animal slaughter.[SUP][47][/SUP] On 26 September, another seven fighters who fled during the battle for Al-Shirqat were reported to have been executed by being trampled to death by a bulldozer.[SUP][31][/SUP]
On 14 October, Reuters reported that the group executed 58 people suspected of taking part in a rebellion plot were executed by drowning in Mosul. The rebellion plot was uncovered more than a week earlier and was led by a local deputy of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.[SUP][213][/SUP] They later executed 14 more people.
On 21 October, ISIS executed 284 men and boys after they were rounded up for use as human shields. 550 families were said to have been used as human shields.[
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cant do it for the Iraqi's. In truth the "Iraqi army" is a mixed bag of Shi'a militias, and a stripped out Sunni officer corps.
The Iranians (Qods expeditionary) are the one's setting the pace.. US Air is close support.

Once ISIS is put back into the hot insurgency stage, I expect Baghdad to be fully compliant with Iran..

And the Sunni tribes will be just that. marginal political players
 
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christiefan915 said:
I guess you would claim the same about Trump the draft dodger....
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I would surely agree with you if it was the truth, but as usual, you lie.....student or medical deferments isn't dodging the draft

the gov. gives them our when they recognize the necessity.......just ask your VP...

Biden , received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War, and I would never refer to him as a draft dodger, would you ?

Try again.

The cartoons are cute...I see its the lefts way of perpetuating the lies....
 
NOVA said:

I would surely agree with you if it was the truth, but as usual, you lie.....student or medical deferments isn't dodging the draft

the gov. gives them our when they recognize the necessity.......just ask your VP...

Biden , received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War, and I would never refer to him as draft dodger, would you ?

Try again.

The cartoons are cute...I see its the lefts way of perpetuating the lies....
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Clinton's draft record went went back and forth between 2-S and 1-A just like Trump's. Also, Clinton had a 1-D while Trump had a 1-Y. And Clinton never had a 4-F.

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Milagro said:
There is no doubt that Trump has a cavalier approach to the truth, but Clinton is way beyond him in terms of mendacity and bare faced lies.

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Sorry, Tom - big myth here, and this is something they have done studies on.

Clinton lies expediently - she lies when there is something negative or embarrassing she doesn't want to be forthright about. It's according to circumstance.

Trump is a textbook pathological liar. He just lies for the sake of lying, and he does so at a rate that is near constant.

The idea that Clinton is "way beyond him" is in fact a massive lie. It is not even close. Trump is the much more dishonest candidate.
 
Is it any wonder that when we read a post from Thingy all we can do is just shake out heads in wonder.....in total awe.....
 
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