ID laws halted becuase they are racist

Althea said:
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/gov_gun_law_per-government-gun-laws-permits



The issue is voting rights. Trying to conflate the right to bear arms (with the proper permit to carry in public) might be a fun distraction, but it is every citizens right to vote.

Not so for carrying handguns. It's a privilege to those who qualify for a permit.
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You might want to find an updated list; because it's not required to carry concealed in AZ.
Plus you seem to be ignoring open carry.
I wonder why that is?

I guess by many, you mean around 50%!! :dunno:

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Permissive open carry
Licensed Open Carry
Anomalous/Rural
Non-Permissive

AND​

The following States require no permit to Carry Concealed:
Alaska
Arizona
Kansas
Maine
Montana
Vermont
Wyoming
West Virginia

There will be more that follow suit.

So what was your point again?? :dunno:
 
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Althea said:
Do you attend college in your home state? Some Red states are trying to force students to register their cars in that state if they want to vote.
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why can't they vote by absentee ballot in their home state?.....registration of vehicle IS one of the evidences of residency.......one of the few available to students who generally own no real estate.
 
Althea said:
What does it cost to obtain a free ID, if you have to drive 2 hours to the office that processes them?
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ACLU should have driven the person the two hours (as if that were really ever necessary)......would have been cheaper than the court fees for filing a case challenging the law......
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You want me to cite laws that pertain to someone having the right to "eat shit stupid cock gobbler"??

Is that what you were talking about??

Maybe the situation would be more clear, if you could learn how to use the quote feature and stop expecting everyone to know what you're referring to. :dunno:
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Coprophilia is her bag apparently, does she like to sit on a stool whilst eating s stool?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and the right to bear arms does not include legs.....
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Some people can't seem to grasp the reality that the entire constitution is not a list of rights granted to THE PEOPLE....its a negative document detailing certain RIGHTS that are unalienable by a Central Government. The entire contract among the states/people is nothing but an agreed upon position among the states in limiting the power and scope of GOVERNMENT and its ability to undermine the unalienable rights of the people given to the people by God and His transcending authority over mankind.

The people of the Unites States in being self governed took the position that all people are born with unlimited rights and the regulation of those rights are reserved TO THE PEOPLE in the form of representative common law that reflects the morality of the majority. It can be no other way in a true representative republic constructed upon the ideology of liberty and freedom. When a minority is allowed to circumvent the moral position of the majority we are no longer living in a FREE STATE that is SELF GOVERNED....we are living in a totalitarian oligarchy where a few self professed SMART PEOPLE attempt to dictate their idea of morality upon the whole. Just ask any of the left wing radical judges that now sit on the supreme court of the United States.

Anyone? Show us the ideology presented by most liberals in defending the oligarchical type of government they have constructed by appointing non-elected civil servants to the Judicial Branch of Government that self professes to being the final arbitrator of the Constitution....in claiming that the founding of this nation also included a right for the minority to be free from the tyranny of the majority. That phrase is nothing but a liberal communist buzz concept that has never existed in the founding of this nation much like the imaginary wall of separation between state and church that only exists by SCOTUS OPINION.

Social Liberalism is the greatest enemy now facing the "UNITED....STATES of AMERICA" today, as it attempts to revise the founding principles of Republicanism guaranteed by the Constitution (Article 4, Section 4, Clause 1) and replace it with court opinion as the oligarchy dictates law from the bench in circumventing the will of the people through representation. Only congress..i.e., the peoples representative reserve the authority to draft common law by a simple majority.....and only THE STATES et.al., reserve the right to change (amend) even one word of the contract among the states known as the US CONSTITUTION...and that must be ratified by a super 75% majority...not by the sound of some left wing judge's gavel.
 
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USFREEDOM911 said:
You might want to find an updated list; because it's not required to carry concealed in AZ.
Plus you seem to be ignoring open carry.
I wonder why that is?

I guess by many, you mean around 50%!! :dunno:

959px-Open_Carrying_US_states_map.svg.png


Permissive open carry
Licensed Open Carry
Anomalous/Rural
Non-Permissive

AND​


The following States require no permit to Carry Concealed:
Alaska
Arizona
Kansas
Maine
Montana
Vermont
Wyoming
West Virginia

There will be more that follow suit.

So what was your point again?? :dunno:
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Thanks. I didn't notice the date on my link.

So...you don't think that half of the country constitutes 'many'? Really?

Let me put it to you this way....in EVERY state, voting is a right. In half of the country...assuming your link is accurate....carrying a handgun is a privilege.

2nd amendment will not help you in court, if you violate the gun laws.

I believe THAT was my point, as well as the point of this thread.
 
Althea said:
How many machine guns do you own?
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machine guns manufactured after May 19, 1986 are the only ones that we are prohibited from owning BY LAW and majority cowardice. that doesn't make it constitutional. in this thread alone you're quite clearly supporting the imprisonment of americans exercising fundamental rights that you don't like.
 
Althea said:
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/gov_gun_law_per-government-gun-laws-permits

The issue is voting rights. Trying to conflate the right to bear arms (with the proper permit to carry in public) might be a fun distraction, but it is every citizens right to vote.

Not so for carrying handguns. It's a privilege to those who qualify for a permit.
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the ISSUE is RIGHTS. keeping and bearing ARMS, even handguns, is quite clearly a RIGHT. it's only your approval of denying that right that is the issue.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
machine guns manufactured after May 19, 1986 are the only ones that we are prohibited from owning BY LAW and majority cowardice. that doesn't make it constitutional. in this thread alone you're quite clearly supporting the imprisonment of americans exercising fundamental rights that you don't like.
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That might be one of he dumbest comments in the thread. I am supporting everyone's right to vote. Once one of your nutty cohorts brought gun rights into the discussion, the thread veered off into idiot status.

Everyone has the right to vote. If a state chooses to attempt to narrow the scope of those who exercise that right via specialized ID requirements, said state should provide that ID in a timely fashion, at no cost.
 
evince said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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You see niggers are too stupid to understand proper English, it clearly says that the militias are regulated not the right of the people to keep and bear arms you fucking retard.
 
Althea said:
It is illegal to carry a handgun without a permit in many states. The Constitution says nothing about carrying a handgun without/with a permit.
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Yes it does it clearly says that the right shall not be abridged, requirement of being registered is a clear abridgement of the right of the people to keep and bear arms, English motherfucker do you speak it?
 
iolo said:
If you serve in a militia. Do you?
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You dumb muslim cock taking faggot, the 2nd amendment does not say that only militia members can have guns, the only requirement is that you are a person, but I see how that is a problem for you considering you are subhuman Muslim scum.
 
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