Trumps contribution to American politics.

Not that she is, but I think many had great reservations about bumbling boob Churchill as well...

You make it sound like she ran the war, but I do recall you mentioning a couple of other world powers playing this game-France, & the UK....... Did they sit on their hands & allow the "hildabeast" to steal the show?? Wasn't it their idea??
how many times do we have to go over this??

She was chief US advocate in the WH NSC where deliberations were made for Libya - while the CIA/DNI and even Biden & Gates were all against intervention in Libya. Gates described her as the "51st% voice"that swayed Obama.

The NYTimes piece and her own State dept also confirm her role. * see sources below*

On the international front; she was the one that met with the NTC's Jibril in Paris, and extracted promises of 'democracy'
from him -in return for organizing the world behind intervention ( surpassing the UN Resolution..)

here are the sources for this:

Hillary Clinton,
‘Smart Power’ and
a Dictator’s Fall

The president was wary. The secretary
of state was persuasive. But the ouster
of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi left Libya
a failed state and a terrorist haven.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?_r=0

Tic Toc on Libya (internal State Dept memo)
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRC_Email_1_296/HRCH1/DOC_0C05739752/C05739752.pdf
 
how many times do we have to go over this??

She was chief US advocate in the WH NSC where deliberations were made for Libya - while the CIA/DNI and even Biden & Gates were all against intervention in Libya. Gates described her as the "51st% voice"that swayed Obama.

The NYTimes piece and her own State dept also confirm her role. * see sources below*

On the international front; she was the one that met with the NTC's Jibril in Paris, and extracted promises of 'democracy'
from him -in return for organizing the world behind intervention ( surpassing the UN Resolution..)

here are the sources for this:

Hillary Clinton,
‘Smart Power’ and
a Dictator’s Fall

The president was wary. The secretary
of state was persuasive. But the ouster
of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi left Libya
a failed state and a terrorist haven.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html?_r=0

Tic Toc on Libya (internal State Dept memo)
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRC_Email_1_296/HRCH1/DOC_0C05739752/C05739752.pdf

It was this sort of thing that brought us Pussy Gate.

And the lemmings fall for it. It's kind of sad.
 
Oh that's just hilarious. Yea right...and we can count of Republicans on national defense. Cause we all know damned well if Russia attacks our country we can count on the GOP to invade Canada. LOL LOL LOL

and if Russia attacks our country we can expect Hillary to ask for a bigger donation to the CGI or she will draw a red line in the sands of Arizona?......
 
It's not the recall that matters.It's the judgement. Assuming Trump would actually listen and evaluate what's in front of him
instead of going looking for validation of ideas for that "humanitarian war" -he might not actually pull the trigger.

Clinton on the other hand made shit up about Viagra rape to justify her preconceptions that qadaffi must go.

Not true that she made it up about the Viagra.

Africa28 March 2011

Rape used 'as a weapon' in Libya

Doctors in city of Ajdabiya say pro-Gaddafi forces have used rape as a "weapon of war".

As Libya's opposition fighters push west, doctors are uncovering more victims from the front line.

Several doctors say they have found Viagra tablets and condoms in the pockets of dead pro-Gaddafi fighters, alleging that they were using rape as a weapon of war.

They say they have been treating female rape survivors who were allied with pro-democracy forces.

Furthermore, 175 people, including doctors, have been reported missing from Ajdabiya, and many have now been found to have been killed.

Al Jazeera's Sue Turton reports from Ajdabiya.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2011/03/201132845516144204.html
 
Africa3 May 2011

Gaddafi forces accused of rape

Many women in Libya say they have been sexually assaulted by troops loyal to the Libyan leader.

There has been escalating violence, especially sexual assaults, against women in Libya. The accusations are levelled at forces of the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Some women say they were taken to the desert in groups. Others say they were raped in front of their families.

Opposition fighters say they have found Viagra pills in tanks and cars captured from the Gaddafi forces.

Al Jazeera's Sue Turton reports from Benghazi.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2011/05/20115381016787271.html
 
Not true that she made it up about the Viagra.

Africa28 March 2011

Rape used 'as a weapon' in Libya

Doctors in city of Ajdabiya say pro-Gaddafi forces have used rape as a "weapon of war".

As Libya's opposition fighters push west, doctors are uncovering more victims from the front line.

Several doctors say they have found Viagra tablets and condoms in the pockets of dead pro-Gaddafi fighters, alleging that they were using rape as a weapon of war.

They say they have been treating female rape survivors who were allied with pro-democracy forces.

Furthermore, 175 people, including doctors, have been reported missing from Ajdabiya, and many have now been found to have been killed.

Al Jazeera's Sue Turton reports from Ajdabiya.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2011/03/201132845516144204.html
ridiculous...here's one of many sources that debunk this junk claim. Clinton ( and S.Rice) went full bore on the story with absolutely no corroboration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Libyan_rape_allegations

Allegations arose in 2011 that Viagra and other impotency drugs were being distributed by Gaddafi to sustain the rapes.[2] The charges have been denied by Libyan diplomats as propaganda.[2] In June 2011, the International Criminal Court began an investigation into the rape allegations seeking to add the rapes to Gaddafi's list of war crimes charges.[3][4]Amnesty international, Human Rights Watch[5] and Doctors Without Borders[6] failed to find first-hand evidence that mass rapes were occurring, this was confirmed by the UN's investigator, M. Cherif Bassiouni.[7]

Ironically, in 2016 there were reports that African women were being raped by the same Libyan rebels who overthrew Gadhafi. This is part of a larger picture of abuse of black Africans in Libya that is emerging in the wake of the rebel victory, born of allegations that Gadhafi often hired sub-Saharan Africans to fight for him.
 
amen..the election is farcical. The Libyan Civil War (2014 - present) drags on and on..

And Trump was right, for all intents and purposes Aleppo has basically fallen. Obama,, and Hillary, have made nothing but bad policy in the ME that has led to the mass killings of hundreds of thousands of innocents.
 
And Trump was right, for all intents and purposes Aleppo has basically fallen. Obama,, and Hillary, have made nothing but bad policy in the ME that has led to the mass killings of hundreds of thousands of innocents.
The thing with Syria is Obama got all "red lined" then backed off -which destroys his credability.Kerry was Sec of State.
Clinton has always wanted to arm the "rebels" and we did this by the CIA in Jordan,spending millions on a few 'moderates' who promptly
were captured or fled to Turkey when they did go into Syria. It's how TOW missiles got into Syria..

Russia is bent on destroying the rebels -and the hospitals and the people in order to squash these same (similar) rebels.
That's the only war this is going to end now -with utter destruction of everyone opposing Iran/Russia and the Regime

by ceeding all control to Russia - Obama has lost any minimal control over events.
Russia the other day even warned us they are not gong to guarantee not firing on our planes
That's why we need a presence in the middleeast ( albeit without stupid wars) - or we lose influence.
And Iran and Russia are brutal..in some ways as bad as ISIS with their expansions
 
The thing with Syria is Obama got all "red lined" then backed off -which destroys his credability.Kerry was Sec of State.
Clinton has always wanted to arm the "rebels" and we did this by the CIA in Jordan,spending millions on a few 'moderates' who promptly
were captured or fled to Turkey when they did go into Syria. It's how TOW missiles got into Syria..

Russia is bent on destroying the rebels -and the hospitals and the people in order to squash these same (similar) rebels.
That's the only war this is going to end now -with utter destruction of everyone opposing Iran/Russia and the Regime

by ceeding all control to Russia - Obama has lost any minimal control over events.
Russia the other day even warned us they are not gong to guarantee not firing on our planes
That's why we need a presence in the middleeast ( albeit without stupid wars) - or we lose influence.
And Iran and Russia are brutal..in some ways as bad as ISIS with their expansions

Clinton was Secretary of State from 2009 until 2013. Obamas red line statement was made in 2012. Kerry drew his own ridiculous red line.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-and-the-red-line-on-syrias-chemical-weapons/
 
I doubt Douchebag Donald could even find Libya on a map.

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Oh that's just hilarious. Yea right...and we can count of Republicans on national defense. Cause we all know damned well if Russia attacks our country we can count on the GOP to invade Canada. LOL LOL LOL

^Dumbest post on the thread even with Hillbilly engaged; you really are THAT fucking dense.

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Not true that she made it up about the Viagra.

Africa28 March 2011

Rape used 'as a weapon' in Libya

Doctors in city of Ajdabiya say pro-Gaddafi forces have used rape as a "weapon of war".

As Libya's opposition fighters push west, doctors are uncovering more victims from the front line.

Several doctors say they have found Viagra tablets and condoms in the pockets of dead pro-Gaddafi fighters, alleging that they were using rape as a weapon of war.

They say they have been treating female rape survivors who were allied with pro-democracy forces.

Furthermore, 175 people, including doctors, have been reported missing from Ajdabiya, and many have now been found to have been killed.

Al Jazeera's Sue Turton reports from Ajdabiya.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2011/03/201132845516144204.html

Africa3 May 2011

Gaddafi forces accused of rape

Many women in Libya say they have been sexually assaulted by troops loyal to the Libyan leader.

There has been escalating violence, especially sexual assaults, against women in Libya. The accusations are levelled at forces of the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Some women say they were taken to the desert in groups. Others say they were raped in front of their families.

Opposition fighters say they have found Viagra pills in tanks and cars captured from the Gaddafi forces.

Al Jazeera's Sue Turton reports from Benghazi.

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2011/05/20115381016787271.html

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Do you think the people of Libya give a flying fuck about Trump's view on vaginas? I suspect they care far more about the fact that Hillary Clinton totally fucked up their country and then just walked away. I also suspect that she will do all she can to avoid discussing her part in destroying the country, but never mind just carry on talking about inconsequential bullshit!!

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkacz...ed-for-libya?utm_term=.afzNWjEApJ#.xm05k0BjmK


Donald Trump often rails against U.S. intervention in the Middle East that topples dictators whose exits lead to unstable regional consequences like the rise of ISIS and other terrorist groups.


But one intervention he has subsequently come to pan — the 2011 U.S. intervention in Libya, which led to the toppling of longtime leader Muammar al-Qaddafi — Trump once very loudly called for on humanitarian grounds.
 
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