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Thing1 said:
Hillary is a standard, run-of-the-mill politician.
Trump is a dangerous narcissist & misogynist. Possibly the worst candidate for President in history.
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Clinton is Nixonian in most metrics.
she has the same arrogance of power that she is above the law. same warmongering tendencies as Nixon's "peace with honor"-
she calls it smart power.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politi...002/index.html




John Kasich says now that he never would have taken the United States to war in Iraq -- but the Ohio governor supported then-President George W. Bush's push for war in 2002.
In an interview with CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union" aired Sunday, Kasich said, "I would never have committed ourselves to Iraq."

But in November 2002, Kasich, then a former congressman, made a very different argument during an event at The Ohio State University, as the United States was gearing up for war in Iraq.
"We should go to war with Iraq. It's not likely that (Saddam) Hussein will give up his weapons. If he did he would be disgraced in the Arab world," he said then.
Kasich's 2002 comments, in front of a crowd of 100 students at the Kuhn Honors and Scholars House, were reported at the time by The Lantern, Ohio State's student newspaper, under the headline: "Fireside speaker favors war with Iraq."
 
Milagro said:
That is the best thing ever for the UK, but I wouldn't expect a Septic to understand that. We won't be the only ones to leave, I can see Greece, Italy, France and Holland doing so as well.

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Far and away, the largest pro Brexit group voted to leave based on lies about all the monies that would be saved/steered toward your own healthcare system. Followed closely by empty promises of closed borders.

Gullible much?
 
anatta said:
like wise. But how do you stop Clinton? 3rd parties are an absolute waste of our votes. ( Believe me I've been there/done that)
3rd parties are simply not viable in American majority rules politics.

while the Constitution is enlightened -the 2 party politics that have infested us since the founding ensure
only mS politicians can get elected to POTUS.

Look at how utterly shitty Clinton is. This was just from last week.
But the media only amplify the salacious -while the real damage comes from the Clinton's ( but it's not sexy)
and doesn't get the outrage
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I told you years ago that we have no voice in our political system. I've accepted it, and moved on. Best you do the same. We're too old for this stress level.
 
Thing1 said:
Hillary is a standard, run-of-the-mill politician.

Trump is a dangerous narcissist & misogynist. Possibly the worst candidate for President in history.
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Worst candidate, only because Bush lied and pretended to be a moderate during the election.

Trump tells the truth, so he'll never make it to the White House.

Bush was a better politician, which gave him the opportunity to prove he'd be the worst president in recent history.
 
Althea said:
Far and away, the largest pro Brexit group voted to leave based on lies about all the monies that would be saved/steered toward your own healthcare system. Followed closely by empty promises of closed borders.

Gullible much?
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Oh bullshit, have ever actually been the UK? I voted for staying in the Common Market in 1975 but when it transitioned to the EU it was clear that the effing megalomaniacs in Brussels were intent on forming the United States of Europe without ever asking anybody if they wanted it. I would suggest that you read this excellent article by Joseph Stiglitz who is scathing in his criticism of the EU. We don't want to be part of the Fourth Reich thank you very much.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...-Bill-Clinton-chief-economist-World-Bank.html

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evince said:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/16/politi...002/index.html




John Kasich says now that he never would have taken the United States to war in Iraq -- but the Ohio governor supported then-President George W. Bush's push for war in 2002.
In an interview with CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union" aired Sunday, Kasich said, "I would never have committed ourselves to Iraq."

But in November 2002, Kasich, then a former congressman, made a very different argument during an event at The Ohio State University, as the United States was gearing up for war in Iraq.
"We should go to war with Iraq. It's not likely that (Saddam) Hussein will give up his weapons. If he did he would be disgraced in the Arab world," he said then.
Kasich's 2002 comments, in front of a crowd of 100 students at the Kuhn Honors and Scholars House, were reported at the time by The Lantern, Ohio State's student newspaper, under the headline: "Fireside speaker favors war with Iraq."
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They ALL now say that it was a mistake, but they quickly blame Obama (and now Hillary) for all of the ills created by Bush.

Amazing.
 
Althea said:
They ALL now say that it was a mistake, but they quickly blame Obama (and now Hillary) for all of the ills created by Bush.

Amazing.
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So Crooked ILLary and Obama are sooooooooooo smart they couldn't convince the Iraqis to keep troops?

Bush left Obama a stable Iraq. Obama fucked it up. That is undeniable.
 
Milagro said:
Oh bullshit, have ever actually been the UK? I voted for staying in the Common Market in 1975 but when it transitioned to the EU it was clear that the effing megalomaniacs in Brussels were intent on forming the United States of Europe without ever asking anybody if they wanted it. I would suggest that you read this excellent article by Joseph Stiglitz who is scathing in his criticism of the EU.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...-Bill-Clinton-chief-economist-World-Bank.html

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The topic is the gullible electorate. Educated voters don't fall for the bullshit put forth that is aimed at the gullible masses.

I'd say you have as many gullible voters as we do.
 
Althea said:
The topic is the gullible electorate. Educated voters don't fall for the bullshit put forth that is aimed at the gullible masses.

I'd say you have as many gullible voters as we do.
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God people like you make me sick, always disparaging people who don't think like you. Before spouting more bollocks read the article by Joseph Stiglitz you might just learn something.

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Althea said:
Of course, Trump should get the blame for running a campaign that put all of the negative attention on himself.

Or does the Republican party get the blame for allowing Trump to happen?
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it's all voters.
The Democratic voters ge blamed for nominating a piece of crap, lying, warmongering, shape shifting corrupt nominee.

The Republican voters get blamed for being snookered by a narcissist, masquerading as a populist.
Of the 2 I still think Clinton is the more dangerous - she's devious and dangerous to democracy ( Constitutional rule)
 
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