Why thousands of millionaires don’t pay federal income taxes

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/0...liticians-so-obsessed-with-manufacturing.html

Why focus on the past? Great manufacturing jobs aren't coming back
anyway due to automation, face it! candidates need to focus on jobs of the future.

There have been some that did come back when the cost tipped back.
You are correct that we need to resume a leading role in innovation. That's what permitted us to command higher prices which allowed higher wages. But regulation strangles that and uneducated kids allowed the rest of the world to catch up. Thank the donkeys for that.
 
If the conservatives had their way, they'd tie voting to paying federal income tax, then they'd set the threshold for paying income tax to $1,000,000 a year so that only millionaires could vote. Then they'd introduce a national sales tax so that the lower class would be funding the entire government without being able to vote on it.

Of the two parties one of them had a veto proof majority fairly recently. Yet the tax system was not fixed. Was not even discussed IIRC. Why is this?

THe answer is that our tax system is like this because our career politicians want it this way.

Btw I can point to a time when we had a democrat president with a veto proof democrat majority where this problem was not fixed. If you can do the same for the GOP please do so.
 
About 46 percent of all tax filers (individuals or households) pay no federal income taxes each year because of various exclusions. High-income tax filers make up a tiny portion of that number, but they are by far the biggest beneficiaries. More than half of the tax revenue lost to the most common tax exclusions stays in the pockets of the richest one-fifth of Americans, according to an analysis by the Congressional Budget Office.

While it's rare for high-earners to pay no federal income tax, it's not unheard of. In 2011, for instance, about 433,000 tax filers with incomes over $100,000 paid no federal income tax, according to estimates based on limited IRS data by the Tax Policy Center, a nonprofit think tank. That number includes approximately 4,000 filers with an income of $1 million or more.The wealthy and poor households that paid no income tax in 2011 did so for drastically different reasons. Most low-income filers — those with a pretax income of $20,000 or less — who paid no tax did so because of the basic structure of our progressive tax system, which determined they made just enough to cover family expenses, or less.

By contrast, high earners who paid no tax were primarily able to do so because of a wide array of other special provisions in tax law. Roughly 1,000 of the 4,000 millionaire non-payersin 2011 did so because their income that year was locked away in individual retirement accounts not subject to federal taxes, according to Roberton Williams of the Urban Institute, one of the authors of the Tax Policy Center analysis.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ncome-taxes/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na


You think they're hiding away millions of dollars in income ????

your total contributions to all of your traditional and Roth IRAs cannot be more than:

$5,500 ($6,500 if you’re age 50 or older), or
your taxable compensation for the year, if your compensation was less than this dollar limit.

Tax on excess IRA contributions

An excess IRA contribution occurs if you:

Contribute more than the contribution limit.
Make a regular IRA contribution to a traditional IRA at age 70½ or older.
Make an improper rollover contribution to an IRA.

Excess contributions are taxed at 6% per year as long as the excess amounts remain in the IRA. The tax can’t be more than 6% of the combined value of all your IRAs as of the end of the tax year

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You think they're hiding away millions of dollars in income ????

your total contributions to all of your traditional and Roth IRAs cannot be more than:

$5,500 ($6,500 if you’re age 50 or older), or
your taxable compensation for the year, if your compensation was less than this dollar limit.

Tax on excess IRA contributions

An excess IRA contribution occurs if you:

Contribute more than the contribution limit.
Make a regular IRA contribution to a traditional IRA at age 70½ or older.
Make an improper rollover contribution to an IRA.

Excess contributions are taxed at 6% per year as long as the excess amounts remain in the IRA. The tax can’t be more than 6% of the combined value of all your IRAs as of the end of the tax year

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Would you be interested in buying a bridge in London from me ?


I know that about IRAs and I'd also like to know where Williams was going with his comment. But no matter what he says, the truth is still that some millionaires aren't paying federal taxes. How about addressing that point, bravs?
 
You think they're hiding away millions of dollars in income ????

your total contributions to all of your traditional and Roth IRAs cannot be more than:

$5,500 ($6,500 if you’re age 50 or older), or
your taxable compensation for the year, if your compensation was less than this dollar limit.

Tax on excess IRA contributions

An excess IRA contribution occurs if you:

Contribute more than the contribution limit.
Make a regular IRA contribution to a traditional IRA at age 70½ or older.
Make an improper rollover contribution to an IRA.

Excess contributions are taxed at 6% per year as long as the excess amounts remain in the IRA. The tax can’t be more than 6% of the combined value of all your IRAs as of the end of the tax year

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Would you be interested in buying a bridge in London from me ?
If you contributed the maximum to a Roth for ten years, you'd have at least $50-$60 thousand for tax free investment. That could account for millions in untaxed gains, but thankfully it is attainable for most of us.
 
I know that about IRAs and I'd also like to know where Williams was going with his comment. But no matter what he says, the truth is still that some millionaires aren't paying federal taxes. How about addressing that point, bravs?
Carried interest is the issue.
 
Carried interest is the issue.

Trump's money isn't carried interest. Our gov't heavily subsidizes housing and real estate. Developers get huge tax breaks and do home owners. If the goal is to get millionaires to pay taxes then go to a flat tax with no deductions for anyone.
 
I know that about IRAs and I'd also like to know where Williams was going with his comment. But no matter what he says, the truth is still that some millionaires aren't paying federal taxes. How about addressing that point, bravs?
Some are not and good for them.
Oh and if you think hrc will change that think again. She is owned by them so a vote for her is a vote for more of the same.
 
Trump's money isn't carried interest. Our gov't heavily subsidizes housing and real estate. Developers get huge tax breaks and do home owners. If the goal is to get millionaires to pay taxes then go to a flat tax with no deductions for anyone.

How about a punishing progressive tax with no deductions for millionaires?

SOAK THE RICH!
 
Trump's money isn't carried interest. Our gov't heavily subsidizes housing and real estate. Developers get huge tax breaks and do home owners. If the goal is to get millionaires to pay taxes then go to a flat tax with no deductions for anyone.
Trump claims that he's going to get rid of carried interest. I never said that he employs that break on his tax returns. Of course it'll never happen, but Trump no doubt feels that he can bring real hedge fund billionaires down to his income level if they have to pay income taxes.
 
Trump claims that he's going to get rid of carried interest. I never said that he employs that break on his tax returns. Of course it'll never happen, but Trump no doubt feels that he can bring real hedge fund billionaires down to his income level if they have to pay income taxes.

Christi asked why some millionaires aren't paying taxes and you responded carried interest. How does carried interest prevent people from paying taxes?
 
Christi asked why some millionaires aren't paying taxes and you responded carried interest. How does carried interest prevent people from paying taxes?
Do you know what carried interest is? If so, how could you ask that question?
 
Do you know what carried interest is? If so, how could you ask that question?

Yes dude. Carries interest reduces taxes paid by hedge fund managers and some real estate investors. That's not the reason Trump or other developers pay no taxes.
 
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