Why child care is so expensive

cawacko said:
Good article on regulations and cost for child care:

https://www.mercatus.org/publication/regulation-and-cost-child-care
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Good lord Wacko. You are not thinking this through.

I'll break it down for you. Yes...increased regulations mean increased cost. However they also mean a far lower cost than blindingly trusting people to do the right thing when they prove, particularly in the business community, that time and time again, they cannot be trusted to always do the right thing. Sometimes it's because of ignorance and often it's because of greed. A greed that ofen disproportionately effects large numbers of people in an adverse manner.

Now about the single most valuable thing anyone would have is their children. If someone is going to drop off their children, whom I would assume they love dearly, off with strangers then they're probably going to make sure there a 6 inch this set of laws, rules and regulations that these people watching their children are going to have to adhere to so that parents can be assured that their children will be safe and their needs adequately met.

I expect that a day care center that meets these particularly high set of base standards is going to cost me substantially if I am to assure myself that my child is being taken care of properly. Otherwise myself and my spouse can make a hard decision about one of us staying at home to care for the children performing this ancient primitive practice known as "parenting".

So no....deregulating day care and leaving my children to the tender mercies of free market fundamentalist does not give me confidence in the least way imaginable that my child would be safe, let alone nurtured.

Day care is not like trading stock. Would you trust Jack Abramoff with your childs well being and future?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Good lord Wacko. You are not thinking this through.

I'll break it down for you. Yes...increased regulations mean increased cost. However they also mean a far lower cost than blindingly trusting people to do the right thing when they prove, particularly in the business community, that time and time again, they cannot be trusted to always do the right thing. Sometimes it's because of ignorance and often it's because of greed. A greed that ofen disproportionately effects large numbers of people in an adverse manner.

Now about the single most valuable thing anyone would have is their children. If someone is going to drop off their children, whom I would assume they love dearly, off with strangers then they're probably going to make sure there a 6 inch this set of laws, rules and regulations that these people watching their children are going to have to adhere to so that parents can be assured that their children will be safe and their needs adequately met.

I expect that a day care center that meets these particularly high set of base standards is going to cost me substantially if I am to assure myself that my child is being taken care of properly. Otherwise myself and my spouse can make a hard decision about one of us staying at home to care for the children performing this ancient primitive practice known as "parenting".

So no....deregulating day care and leaving my children to the tender mercies of free market fundamentalist does not give me confidence in the least way imaginable that my child would be safe, let alone nurtured.

Day care is not like trading stock. Would you trust Jack Abramoff with your childs well being and future?
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As a parent I would do all I could to research a place before I left my kid with them. But what's happening is the cost of this care is rising and poorer people aren't able to afford it as a result. I could say it doesn't matter because it doesn't affect me but I don't feel that way.

Again, I'm not anti regulations but I think there are many many ways we are over regulated
 
cawacko said:
You're making the assumption that the additional regulations required by the gov't have no cost and that just isn't the case
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Equally you're making the assumption that the people, in a regulated community, will always do the right thing when deregulated, and that when they don't it won't have a significant cost.

History has shown us over and over again that often that cost is far, far, far higher than the cost of regulation. Also, certain types of cost you can't place a dollar amount on.

What dollar amount for your childs well being is an acceptable cost/benefit risk to you?
 
Rana said:
This is absolutely vital, the younger the children, the higher the ratio of adults is vital for infant development. childcare providers not certified to handle infants can cause problems, lead to abuse. First aid is vital to have when. caring for children. People would not take necessary classes if not required. It is among the first things I would ask a daycare provider.
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Like I said...he hasn't thought this through.
 
I think it's rather amusing for libtards to want more regulation for everything except abortion clinics.
 
cawacko said:
As a parent I would do all I could to research a place before I left my kid with them. But what's happening is the cost of this care is rising and poorer people aren't able to afford it as a result. I could say it doesn't matter because it doesn't affect me but I don't feel that way.

Again, I'm not anti regulations but I think there are many many ways we are over regulated
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Fair enough. What specifically would you do that would lower cost without adversely affecting the childs well being and the day care facilities educational and developmental mission? You're stand on certification was shot down in a flaming heap of failure by Rana.

What I'm trying to point out to you is you simply cannot look at all regulations from a cost/benefit analysis. There are times where that is very much appropriate but when peoples lives, health and well being enter into the equation you have to except that cost/benefit is not going to take the highest priority.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Good lord Wacko. You are not thinking this through.

I'll break it down for you. Yes...increased regulations mean increased cost. However they also mean a far lower cost than blindingly trusting people to do the right thing when they prove, particularly in the business community, that time and time again, they cannot be trusted to always do the right thing. Sometimes it's because of ignorance and often it's because of greed. A greed that ofen disproportionately effects large numbers of people in an adverse manner.

Now about the single most valuable thing anyone would have is their children. If someone is going to drop off their children, whom I would assume they love dearly, off with strangers then they're probably going to make sure there a 6 inch this set of laws, rules and regulations that these people watching their children are going to have to adhere to so that parents can be assured that their children will be safe and their needs adequately met.

I expect that a day care center that meets these particularly high set of base standards is going to cost me substantially if I am to assure myself that my child is being taken care of properly. Otherwise myself and my spouse can make a hard decision about one of us staying at home to care for the children performing this ancient primitive practice known as "parenting".

So no....deregulating day care and leaving my children to the tender mercies of free market fundamentalist does not give me confidence in the least way imaginable that my child would be safe, let alone nurtured.

Day care is not like trading stock. Would you trust Jack Abramoff with your childs well being and future?
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Sorry...but I want to know that the water quality in the center is up to par. I want to know that the center won't allow people to drop off children who are visibly sick. I want to be sure that there is enough staff to keep the group bully from hurting my child. I want to know that there are no safety hazards.

I don't want staff that hate their job. As has been mentioned, I want staff that has been through basic first aid training.


Cutting corners is fine. We just don't want to do it with our most prized family members.
 
Right said:
I think it's rather amusing for libtards to want more regulation for everything except abortion clinics.
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There are quite a few regulations for abortion clinics. Width of hallways is not one that concerns me.
 
Althea said:
I think you're talking about the coal industry for one. After countless decades of allowing this industry to kill workers/the environment, we are indeed scrambling to rein them in. But...these regulations should have been in place from the beginning. Often, we don't realize there is a problem until new research shows us that the industry is toxic.
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yes.coal is a separate issue. Black Lung was well known long ago -and Social Security even has a separate Disability allowance for coal miners
( outside normal disability claims).

And we knew about coal ash/ highs sulpher etc. we really only had a glimpse of acidification starting in the late 70's.
So growing those regs made sense with growing awareness.
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What doesn't make sense is the crazy Waters Of The US (WOTUS) intruding even into ephemeral streams far from interstate waters.
Or my favorite back in Maryland -a "rain tax" whereby how much you pave over ground increases your taxes-
but at least that is a silly state tax that doesn't effect others then Marylanders.

I think the one that put me over the top was the aggressive regs on Ozone - treating normal business outputs that might raise
p.p.billion as "pollution"..

There is so much federal over-reach.
I've been on a rampage about up-scheduling hydrocodone-not that the stuff shouldn't be a Schedule III -
but moving it into the same class as oxycodone (Schedule II) has made it impossible for Dr's to prescribe.
It came out the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) who categorically determind that chronic use of opoids is "not effective".

Why don't they let that decision be made by me and my doctor?
I have nothing but contempt for the so called 'nanny state'
 
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Althea said:
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Sorry...but I want to know that the water quality in the center is up to par. I want to know that the center won't allow people to drop off children who are visibly sick. I want to be sure that there is enough staff to keep the group bully from hurting my child. I want to know that there are no safety hazards.

I don't want staff that hate their job. As has been mentioned, I want staff that has been through basic first aid training.


Cutting corners is fine. We just don't want to do it with our most prized family members.
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And if you choose to pay a premium for these additional things then I'm confident there are providers who would be glad to help you.
But if the parents cannot choose the premium service then they should have the option a more affirdible service.

They will find one and with regulations being what they are going to be private and under the regulatory radar.
 
cawacko said:
If think excessive regulations aren't the reason the cost of child care is rising (and on a seperate issue why our economy is having the challenges it is and why new business starts are down) then that's on you.

How about you share why child care costs are rising like they are if don't feel gov't regulation is the cause
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people valuing their childrens care
 
evince said:
I'm sure she is a lovely young woman


I bet she sparkles with the light of the life inside her



I hope your heart grows to fill the joyous job you are about to take on wack



be a good man


you can do it
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come into the light
 
Celticguy said:
And if you choose to pay a premium for these additional things then I'm confident there are providers who would be glad to help you.
But if the parents cannot choose the premium service then they should have the option a more affirdible service.

They will find one and with regulations being what they are going to be private and under the regulatory radar.
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It is not a "premium service", it is the minimal service the regulations address, parents can still spend above and beyond that for better service.
 
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