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Also, Cyprus is geographically part of Asia by any sensible definition, and Malta is geographically part of Africa.
Ten reasons why a Trump-Putin relationship will be beneficial
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Also, Cyprus is geographically part of Asia by any sensible definition, and Malta is geographically part of Africa.
yep. there isn't any easy "go to" template to use here. I think there has to be an understanding of the Russian position -primarily the NATO expansion-
but also the treatment of Russia as other then having legitimate security-economic needs.
Conversely Russia has to understand that sanctions and increased military confrontations are going to be the norm
if they don't chill and work a new agenda. ( eventually Russia is going to run out of reserves)
It takes much more then the simplistic thinking we have been using, and in truth it would take a gambit that Putin
wouldn't abuse any glasnost.
We need to have some lower level meetings to get some understandings, and then hopefully an old style summit
to cement that new relationship
I recall that was talked about, but I believe that was before putin.....
COntinued bullying of Russia is merely pushing them further away & into the arms of
this is what im saying. The next phase of the world will have china and the US as the two poles. Russia can be our britain or chinas
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Sino-Russian ties are more natural then US/Russian ties.
I think we all agree then??
IMHO the US position towards Russia seems intentionally antagonistic & sometimes even provocative..
Airstrip One
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Russia and China won't be able to keep a steady relationship if the past is any indication. They have aspirations which involve the same geographical spheres. Their Cold War relationship deteriorated following the death of Stalin, and disintegrated following the Bay of Pigs. They actively fought a border war in 1969.
as long as there is an outside power that threatens them both (us) they will stick together. In fact if you wanted russia and china to fight you would have to be friendlier to russia to cause friction between them.
we both do. I told you you would be voting for trump in november its just a matter of time
wut. no. the only thing that really holds them together is the us wants to weaken both of them.
Airstrip One
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That wasn't the case before, although the Chinese leadership is considerably more capable than that of the 50s-70s. They were already skirmishing before Nixon came along, and orchestrated the Ping Pong Policy to open-up China and help drive the USSR further away.
you kinda just made my point yes? How did they want to drive the two apart? By being closer to china?
Says the brain dead sociopath who celebrates Gorby as having torn down the Berlin Wall.
Yep; in loony liberal land, it's the US that is provocative, not small minded dictators and tyrants. Heck, AmeriKa FORCED Putin to invade and conquer the Crimea; after all, look at all the provocative things we did.....we told him he should not shoot down civilian airliners with his own ground to air missiles, he should pull out of Ukraine and we even tried to defend other nations with an anti-nuclear missile shield in the event of war.
After all, in loony liberal land, it is none of our business and if PutinKin wants to throw his weight around against Europe, then let him do it. Look at how well such policies worked in WWI and WWII!!!
Idiots.
Which is why Nixon's overtures to China were so brilliant. It is a shame it has led to them getting the upper hand these days with idiots like Clinton and Obama.
Airstrip One
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Lern 2 Reed. Nixon's policy was made possible by the fact that Sino-Soviet relations melted down independently of anything the US did or didn't do.
The Saudis aren't invading their democratic neighnors in overt wars of aggression or brokering ISIL oil, Trump is wrong on Putler and the fascist RF.