Trump supporters and bigotry

China has the ultimate state run capitalism. It is not free market. And we're about to see where it leads them because China is going to run into massive problems here shortly.

Trump tries to sell the trade deficit as if it's a zero sum game and if yours (ours) is negative you're (we're) losing and that's just not the case. There is far far more nuance to it then that.

This isn't to say you can't or shouldn't go after countries who break trade laws but the idea that slapping tariffs to counter other countries is going to make things even is cutting your nose to spite your face.

China is and has been deliberately faking the devaluing of their currency. What has the political establishment been doing about it? They're cheating and they're getting completely away with it and nobody is trying to stop them. Trump wants to.
 
China is and has been deliberately faking the devaluing of their currency. What has the political establishment been doing about it? They're cheating and they're getting completely away with it and nobody is trying to stop them. Trump wants to.

I found these three articles about the "establishment" and China.

What would you like to see them do?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...oe-biden-china-san-diego-2016jul13-story.html

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-china-trade-complaint-20160713-snap-story.html

http://investigatemidwest.org/2016/09/14/u-s-lodges-23rd-trade-violations-complaint-against-china/
 
Look it up... I know it does not fit into your narrative, but its true. If you are interested in reality.

Taxes, where they are now, are higher than they ever should be. When the government funds things they have no business funding, taxes are low.
 
I did not say that, I said that since Obamacare the rate of medical care inflation has dropped significantly which has helped with the Medicare problem... can you identify the key differences between what I wrote and what you seem to have thought I wrote? Reading comprehension is important and understanding the words of the writer are essential to learning.

Taking someone's words and drawing them out dramatically further than what the clear meaning was makes you look silly or functionally literate.

People thinking the government should subsidize whatever they aren't willing to provide themselves makes them a leech and those supporting such things pieces of shit.
 
People thinking the government should subsidize whatever they aren't willing to provide themselves makes them a leech and those supporting such things pieces of shit.

That's most of the country which is why Trump said he won't touch entitlements. Most Republicans don't want entitlements touched.
 
China is and has been deliberately faking the devaluing of their currency. What has the political establishment been doing about it? They're cheating and they're getting completely away with it and nobody is trying to stop them. Trump wants to.

one thing that nobody mentions is that germany is doing this too. THe mark would be a lot stronger than the euro but you have greece, italy, and all the other weaker countries there bringing down the average. So you have germany benefitting from a currency that is weaker than what it should have while greece is screwed by having a currency to strong for it to handle.

Greece could have saved itself from its recent crashes if it controlled its currency.
 
Depends on what you call an entitlement.

S.S. and Medicare for starters. That's what's crushing our budgets. Republicans have spoken of entitlement reform but then always back off. You're essentially calling most Americans pieces of shit which is fine if that's what you believe.
 
S.S. and Medicare for starters. That's what's crushing our budgets. Republicans have spoken of entitlement reform but then always back off. You're essentially calling most Americans pieces of shit which is fine if that's what you believe.

Please explain how S.S. is an entitlement, when people have been paying into it for their entire work history?

After you explain your assumption, then maybe Medicare can be addressed.
 
Peter Morici, a University of Maryland professor and former official at the U.S. International Trade Commission, said the Obama administration is trying to get tougher on trade enforcement against China as Trump has pounded on the issue during his campaign.

“I think the cases are justified,” Morici said of the administration's WTO filings. “Trump talks about bringing more of them. I kind of have more confidence that Trump would bring them than Clinton would.”

Zhu Haiquan, a spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Washington, said the U.S. was abusing the WTO process.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-china-trade-complaint-20160713-snap-story.html
 
Please explain how S.S. is an entitlement, when people have been paying into it for their entire work history?

After you explain your assumption, then maybe Medicare can be addressed.

The whole "I have been paying into it" is a ruse to make people forget it is welfare.

It is welfare just like Medicare

With today's lifespans people take out far more than they put in. That makes it an entitlement. And welfare.

A true conservative would oppose Socialist inSecurity. Liberals are right to call hypocrisy
 
The whole "I have been paying into it" is a ruse to make people forget it is welfare.

It is welfare just like Medicare

With today's lifespans people take out far more than they put in. That makes it an entitlement. And welfare.

A true conservative would oppose Socialist inSecurity. Liberals are right to call hypocrisy

To save me the time what ILA said
 
El Oh El, ok Mr. Democrat. Those republicans sure have slashed the budget haven't they? (And yes that is sarcasm)

They would if they could :) I have confidence this is going to be our republican party from now on :) we are willing to share thouhg. we can have the jolly huckabee wing and our nationalist wing. all globalists should go dem.
 
They would if they could I have confidence this is going to be our republican party from now on we are willing to share thouhg. we can have the jolly huckabee wing and our nationalist wing. all globalists should go dem.

Please, ask Deplorable Don to announce that the GOP will eliminate Social Security and MediCare. :)
 
I'd Rather Be Called a Big Ot Than Be a Little Snot

Why are so many Trump supporters afraid to own the bigotry issue that threatening to split the GOP apart?

I'm not going to generalize that all Trump supporters are bigots but there is no arguing that a large percentage are and that Trump has used racism and xenophobia to mainstream bigotry into our current election cycle with a disturbing degree of success. The problem for Trump supporters who do not believe they are bigoted is one of guilt by association and cognitive dissonance with the core American value of pluralism.

A large percentage of the GOP are doing the right thing, which I think is courageous, by distancing themselves from the Trump movement and declaring by doing so that the Trump movement does not represent their values. I give high marks to Cawacko for taking such a stand.

To be fair, Trump has championed issues that concern many working class Americans but he has done so in a highly irresponsible manner. He has used the racial resentments of white working class to divide and conquer a major political party while pronouncing a populist message he can't back up and probably wouldn't try to if elected while mainstreaming the fringe elements of the GOP who hold beliefs that are decidedly un-American.

What are those un-American values? Obviously they are racism, nativism, anti-pluralism and religious intolerance.

In the long run maybe Trump has done the GOP a favor. He has given the GOP an opportunity to do the right thing. For years the GOP has tolerated and exploited these resentments to build a winning coalition but now, under Trump those sentiments have gone from the fringe of the party to front and center. The GOP has made a catastrophic strategic blunder and have been co-opted by a fringe they thought they could control but would tolerate with a wink and a nod. Now that fringe controls the national party.

So now the GOP has the opportunity to take a courageous stand by doing what they have challenged mainstream Muslims to do. To stand up and denounce the extremist in their midst and to do something about them. To not do so places the heart and soul of their political movement at risk because the GOP cannot long exist as a divided party. As Lincoln observed they will become one thing or the other.

The GOP will either be the party that champions traditional American values of family, faith, community, entrepreneurship and personal liberty or they will become the party of bigotry, nativism, intolerance and anti-pluralism.

It will not be party leaders who make this choice nor the timid souls who stand by the sidelines and hope for favorable outcomes but by those who are willing to go out and publicly engage and struggle for their vision of our nation. So the time is now for those members in the GOP who wish to preserve the good they have accomplished to stand up and fight against the forces Trump has unleashed or face irrelevancy and being consigned to the dustbin of history.

If ever the GOP has needed people like Cawacko who understand the traditional American conservative movement to stand up and denounce the regressive and reactionary forces unleashed by Trump the time is now for the fate of the GOP is in your hands.

You're preaching to the wrong choir. You are mistaking normal Americans with realistic protective instincts for intimidated college students being forced to search their souls for White Guilt. Out here in the real world, the one outside of the leper colony media infected by brainwashed Diploma Dumbos, PC is a dead language. When someone babbles "racist, homophobe, xenophobe!", he might as well be speaking Latin.
 
Wishing It Were True Won't Make It True

You are not required to answer him or me but the question is, who do you see as leading the GOP? Someone like you, with your values or Trump and his supporters?

You cannot disagree that currently the Republican party is a house divided and that this situation cannot long endure.

You have to be desperate to try to convince your political enemies of this scare story about their imminent collapse.
 
Back
Top