Saudi Government Links to 9/11 Shouldn’t Stay Secret

One day we won't require the services of SA and it's oil. Then we can just sit back and watch in pure schadenfreude...
 
Yep->
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And Billy Clinton/Obama haven't done the same thing? Is this what you are trying to argue?
 
Yes........ We have been liberating Afghani-NAM for all these years & women are in as bad, if not worse position than they were then......

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Iraq??


Iraqi women in 70's
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Iraqi women today
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That looks like extreme photo shop. Anecdotal evidence either way.
 
I am afraid not. With international terrorism, internet, and threat of nuclear war, we will never be able to isolate again.

The threat of nuclear war is with major powers. Not with SA, Syria, Iraq, Libya, etc. Pakistan is a threat in that it could use them on India. I mean to isolate the ME from the civilized world - not for the US to become isolationist.
 
You're dopey. Muslims aren't killing infidels in China or Korea, for example, because there's nothing in it for them in those societies. The majority of those they kill are other Muslims, not "infidels." Use your head. It's about power, not religion.

Are you serious? You practice Christianity at your own risk in China. North Korea is even worse. Needless to what Muslims live there stay pretty far under the radar.
 
recent months, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has come under increasing pressure and criticism from the U.S. Congress and the British Parliament for its human rights abuses both at home and in the ongoing conflict in Yemen.

Meanwhile, Saudi diplomats and leaders have worked tirelessly to improve relations with Russia, China, and other nations. The significance of Saudi Arabia, a long-time U.S. ally, cozying up to countries that oppose not only U.S. but also Saudi interests in the Middle East, shows a bit of creative footwork from the oil-rich kingdom, as they seek to hedge their bets and build assurances away from their traditional allies
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/819938...14d3e8c/ss_as-criticism-increases,-saudi.html

where have we seen this movie before?? does Egypt ring a bell??

for Christ's sake quit brining morality into geo-politics :palm:
 
Are you serious? You practice Christianity at your own risk in China. North Korea is even worse. Needless to what Muslims live there stay pretty far under the radar.

We're not talking about practicing a religion but about conversions. Why are Muslims not flying planes into Chinese or NK landmarks?
 
We're not talking about practicing a religion but about conversions. Why are Muslims not flying planes into Chinese or NK landmarks?

Both societies are less open than ours is one reason, though they'll get around to attacking in them in time.

But the more important reason is historic: the West represents militant Islam's arch rival, Christendom. Remember when Bush II uttered the word 'Crusade' in reference to countering violent extremists? There was an outrage because that is how radical Muslims perceive us: as Christendom's top dog super power.

That's why they'd be after us no matter if we do this or don't do that. Or if we had done this or did do that, with Israel, oil, Iraq...whatever.

What have the Swedes done besides exist and breathe? Yet, their immigrant Muslim population will almost certainly, in time, spawn a few [dozen?] radical Islamists that will try and kill as many Swedes as possible.

According to the prevailing wisdom, this should never happen because the Swedes never had an empire in the Middle East or---whatever.

It's not even hate. Their religion compells them to act. And their interpretation of Islam is utterly barbaric.
 
Both societies are less open than ours is one reason, though they'll get around to attacking in them in time.

But the more important reason is historic: the West represents militant Islam's arch rival, Christendom. Remember when Bush II uttered the word 'Crusade' in reference to countering violent extremists? There was an outrage because that is how radical Muslims perceive us: as Christendom's top dog super power.

That's why they'd be after us no matter if we do this or don't do that. Or if we had done this or did do that, with Israel, oil, Iraq...whatever.

What have the Swedes done besides exist and breathe? Yet, their immigrant Muslim population will almost certainly, in time, spawn a few [dozen?] radical Islamists that will try and kill as many Swedes as possible.

According to the prevailing wisdom, this should never happen because the Swedes never had an empire in the Middle East or---whatever.

It's not even hate. Their religion compells them to act. And their interpretation of Islam is utterly barbaric.
to the bolded..yes.well said
 
Both societies are less open than ours is one reason, though they'll get around to attacking in them in time.

But the more important reason is historic: the West represents militant Islam's arch rival, Christendom. Remember when Bush II uttered the word 'Crusade' in reference to countering violent extremists? There was an outrage because that is how radical Muslims perceive us: as Christendom's top dog super power.

That's why they'd be after us no matter if we do this or don't do that. Or if we had done this or did do that, with Israel, oil, Iraq...whatever.

What have the Swedes done besides exist and breathe? Yet, their immigrant Muslim population will almost certainly, in time, spawn a few [dozen?] radical Islamists that will try and kill as many Swedes as possible.

According to the prevailing wisdom, this should never happen because the Swedes never had an empire in the Middle East or---whatever.

It's not even hate. Their religion compells them to act. And their interpretation of Islam is utterly barbaric.

Why aren't they attacking South America or Mexico, Christian countries?
 
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