NBC’s Commander in Chief Forum Was an Authoritarian Farce

christiefan915

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Wednesday night’s “Commander-in-Chief Forum,” presented by NBC News and MSNBC, was a debacle. Every network that’s hosting a presidential debate in the next seven weeks should study the video to learn how not to interrogate Donald Trump. But Trump still managed, through boastful indifference, to reveal the most important thing about his presidency: He would make the United States an authoritarian country.

Trump played his usual tricks. When he was quizzed about foreign policy, he changed the subject to trade. When he was pressed for solutions, he talked instead about President Obama’s failures. When he was asked about a tweet in which he had blamed military sexual assaults on the integration of women, he acted as though he had always believed the problem was insufficient prosecution. He also claimed, contrary to fact—and undisputed by moderator Matt Lauer—that he had been “totally against the war in Iraq.”

...Trump claimed that in the classified intelligence briefing he received on Aug. 17, he learned “that our leadership, Barack Obama, did not follow what our experts” had recommended “in almost every instance.” That’s quite a claim, since the briefing was prepared by James Clapper, Obama’s director of national intelligence. The session was classified, so Clapper and his briefers can’t rebut Trump in public. This tells you how Trump would treat classified information as president: He would lie about it for political gain and dare the intelligence community to violate the law by exposing him.

...When Lauer asked him how we would take Iraq’s oil, Trump replied: “You would leave a certain group behind, and you would take various sections where they have the oil.” We got “nothing” for the money we spent invading Iraq, Trump complained. “It used to be, ‘To the victor belong the spoils.’ … I always said, ‘Take the oil.’ ”

This is a policy of explicit theft. Trump has stated this policy many times. He has been applauded for it by crowds and has not been morally challenged by Lauer or other interviewers. Now Trump is repeating it in the run-up to the fall debates. He’s betting that Americans will embrace—and the media will accept—plunder as foreign policy. So far, he has not been proved wrong.



http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...n_chief_forum_was_an_authoritarian_farce.html
 
I keep thinking about that forum.

It's amazing what Trump squeezed into 30 minutes, and how much Lauer let him get away with. Talking about seasoned intelligence professionals indicating with "body language" that they "weren't happy" with Obama (and anyone who believes that should never be allowed to vote again). Asserting that we should have stolen oil from a sovereign country we liberated. Lying about his Iraq position. Answering a question about if he could be trusted w/ the military by bragging about his wonderful visit with Mexico. Heaping praise on Putin and saying he was a better leader than our President. Once again talking about his "secret plan" for ISIS, and hinting that he'd fire all of the current generals.

What a friggin' disaster of a human being. People who support this guy should be deeply, deeply ashamed. It is beyond all comprehension.

And Lauer was terrible. Pressing Hillary on nonsense and never letting her finish, all while lobbing Trump softballs and seeming mesmerized by his BS.
 
Lauer is always terrible. That's why Will Ferrell's "Matt Lauer can suck-it!" line from Land of the Lost was so funny.

That said, Douchebag Donald has probably hurt himself most over the Putin > Obama line.
 
I keep thinking about that forum.

It's amazing what Trump squeezed into 30 minutes, and how much Lauer let him get away with. Talking about seasoned intelligence professionals indicating with "body language" that they "weren't happy" with Obama (and anyone who believes that should never be allowed to vote again). Asserting that we should have stolen oil from a sovereign country we liberated. Lying about his Iraq position. Answering a question about if he could be trusted w/ the military by bragging about his wonderful visit with Mexico. Heaping praise on Putin and saying he was a better leader than our President. Once again talking about his "secret plan" for ISIS, and hinting that he'd fire all of the current generals.

What a friggin' disaster of a human being. People who support this guy should be deeply, deeply ashamed. It is beyond all comprehension.

And Lauer was terrible. Pressing Hillary on nonsense and never letting her finish, all while lobbing Trump softballs and seeming mesmerized by his BS.

And quoting from a classified intelligence briefing, after all these month of criticizing Hillary about classified emails, just the height of hypocrisy and arrogance!

"This tells you how Trump would treat classified information as president: He would lie about it for political gain and dare the intelligence community to violate the law by exposing him."

Lauer got a lot of criticism for his p*ss-poor moderation, and deserved every last tweet.
 
More Trump convoluted talking.

"Later, however, [Trump] said Obama, Clinton, and John Kerry, who succeeded her as secretary of State, ignored the advice of foreign policy experts — something he learned, he said, in the intelligence briefing given to him as a candidate. “Trump’s logic here is confusing,” wrote Washington Post reporter Callum Borchers in an annotation to the Post’s forum transcript. “He basically says the generals advising Obama are idiots who know less about the Islamic State than Trump does. Yet Trump slams Obama for not listening to these idiots?”

http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/9/07/trump-clinton-show-vast-differences-foreign-policy-forum
 
More Trump convoluted talking.

"Later, however, [Trump] said Obama, Clinton, and John Kerry, who succeeded her as secretary of State, ignored the advice of foreign policy experts — something he learned, he said, in the intelligence briefing given to him as a candidate. “Trump’s logic here is confusing,” wrote Washington Post reporter Callum Borchers in an annotation to the Post’s forum transcript. “He basically says the generals advising Obama are idiots who know less about the Islamic State than Trump does. Yet Trump slams Obama for not listening to these idiots?”

http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/9/07/trump-clinton-show-vast-differences-foreign-policy-forum

As was pointed out later by other experts, advice is NOT given in those briefings. Just the facts as they know them. Another lie by the pathological liar.
 
Lauer is always terrible. That's why Will Ferrell's "Matt Lauer can suck-it!" line from Land of the Lost was so funny.

That said, Douchebag Donald has probably hurt himself most over the Putin > Obama line.

Agreed. That one really resonates on a deeper level w/ Americans.

And man, it's crazy how easy it is to play Trump. Just tell him he's brilliant and he'll tapdance all over the place for you.
 
On Putin:

Lauer:
He’s also a guy who annexed Crimea, invaded Ukraine, supports Assad in Syria, supports Iran … and according to our intelligence community, probably is the main suspect in the hacking of the DNC computers.

Trump:
Well, nobody knows that for a fact. But do you want me to start naming some of the things that President Obama does? … If he [Putin] says great things about me, I’m going to say great things about him. I’ve already said he is really very much of a leader. I mean, you can say, “Oh, isn’t that a terrible thing? He called—” I mean, the man has very strong control over a country. Now, it’s a very different system, and I don’t happen to like the system. But certainly, in that system, he’s been a leader. Far more than our president has been a leader. We have a divided country.


Let’s unpack this passage. First, in Trump’s view, Putin’s approval rating in Russian polls signifies not that Putin has intimidated his people, but that they respect him—or that intimidation counts as respect. Second, according to Trump, Putin shouldn’t be criticized for his invasions or his espionage against us, because Obama does questionable things, too. Third, Trump’s definition of leadership is “strong control over a country,” even by Putin’s methods. Fourth, it’s better to be a united country like Russia than to be a “divided country” like America.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...n_chief_forum_was_an_authoritarian_farce.html
 
And quoting from a classified intelligence briefing, after all these month of criticizing Hillary about classified emails, just the height of hypocrisy and arrogance!

"This tells you how Trump would treat classified information as president: He would lie about it for political gain and dare the intelligence community to violate the law by exposing him."

Lauer got a lot of criticism for his p*ss-poor moderation, and deserved every last tweet.

Trump "would" ? That's what Hillary ALREADY HAS done, and she's still doing it. Lauer's poor moderation was not questioning Hillary about all the dozens of people she and Bill have killed.
 
Trump "would" ? That's what Hillary ALREADY HAS done, and she's still doing it. Lauer's poor moderation was not questioning Hillary about all the dozens of people she and Bill have killed.

Sure they have. Please go to your WND or Infowars sites to list them for us. Is the doctor who was treating Hillary for dementia on the list? That was one of the latest whoppers.

Conspiratorial morons.
 
More Trump convoluted talking.

"Later, however, [Trump] said Obama, Clinton, and John Kerry, who succeeded her as secretary of State, ignored the advice of foreign policy experts — something he learned, he said, in the intelligence briefing given to him as a candidate. “Trump’s logic here is confusing,” wrote Washington Post reporter Callum Borchers in an annotation to the Post’s forum transcript. “He basically says the generals advising Obama are idiots who know less about the Islamic State than Trump does. Yet Trump slams Obama for not listening to these idiots?”

http://www.advocate.com/election/2016/9/07/trump-clinton-show-vast-differences-foreign-policy-forum

How dumb. Obama didn't listen to his ORIGINAL generals (the ones he fired). And yes, the ones he has now, he has reduced to rubble (just as Trump said) They're nothing but a congregation of YES MEN, who say what Obie wants to hear, or they'll be fired too. Got it, now ?
 
Trump "would" ? That's what Hillary ALREADY HAS done, and she's still doing it. Lauer's poor moderation was not questioning Hillary about all the dozens of people she and Bill have killed.

You must be Alex Jones writing under a pseudonym. No normal person believes the Clintons are untouchable serial killers.
 
How dumb. Obama didn't listen to his ORIGINAL generals (the ones he fired). And yes, the ones he has now, he has reduced to rubble (just as Trump said) They're nothing but a congregation of YES MEN, who say what Obie wants to hear, or they'll be fired too. Got it, now ?


Sure they are. Where do you get your inside info? Infowars?
 
How dumb. Obama didn't listen to his ORIGINAL generals (the ones he fired). And yes, the ones he has now, he has reduced to rubble (just as Trump said) They're nothing but a congregation of YES MEN, who say what Obie wants to hear, or they'll be fired too. Got it, now ?

That's not the point of that sentence, now is it?

You can't 1) call the generals idiots and then 2) criticize Obama for not listening to idiots.

Your conspiracy thinking about all those fired generals is amusing. You're another one pushing the Gish gallop theory.
[h=1]Did President Obama Really Purge the Military?[/h]
 
You must be Alex Jones writing under a pseudonym. No normal person believes the Clintons are untouchable serial killers.

I guess your version of "normal" is watching MSNBC, CNN, PBS, or some other liberal whitewash organ, and go with being massively information-deprived. If I gave you a quiz on the dozens of people killed by the Clintons, you wouldn't recognize their names, right ? Of course not. Your OMISSION media doesn't report it. Just like it doesn't report on Islamization.

That's why liberals also know nothing about Islamization. I give a quiz on Islamization. So far about 20 liberals have taken that quiz. Highest grade they ever got was 5% (most got zero). Some even said >> "Islamization. What's that ?" geez.gif

To be liberal, is to be ignorant.
 
Alex Jones.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz4Jjc1991S

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...t-the-RFBI-Investigate-the-Clinton-Body-Count

Don Adams

Died January 7, 1997
Long before Whitewater's land flips made the Clinton's circle of friends rich, many of the same players had been involved in a similar land swindle in Branson. Don Adams was a lawyer in Arkansas who got involved trying to help the people who were being swindled out of their life savings.

The successor attorney for Don left for parts unknown about a year after Don was killed.

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John Ashe

Former United Nations General Assembly President

Died: June 22, 2016
Initially reported as having died from a heart attack, John's throat had obviously been crushed. At that point the official story changed to him accidentally dropping a barbell on his own throat (the plot line from the episode "An Exercise in Fatality" from the TV series "Columbo.") crushing his larynx.

Ashe was about to begin trial for a bribery charge involving Chinese businessman Ng Lap Seng, who had been implicated but not charged in the 1996 "China-gate" scandal for funneling illegal donations to Bill Clinton's re-election fund through Arkansas restaurant owner Charlie Trie. Ashe was supposed to testify about Hillary's links to Ng Lap Seng later the same day he died.

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Gandy Baugh

Attorney representing Mr. Lassater in a case concerning alleged financial misconduct.

Died: January 8, 1994
Died in an alleged suicide by jumping out of a window of a multi-story building. - Mr. Lassater was a close associate of Gov. Clinton, and was later indicted on drug related charges, among other things. Baugh's law partner was "suicided" one month later on February 9, 1994.

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Admiral Jeremy Boorda

Chief of Naval Operations

Died May 16th, 1996

Boorda supposedly went home for lunch and decided to shoot himself in the chest twice, using two guns, rather than be interviewed by Newsweek magazine that afternoon.

Explanations for Boorda's suicide focused on a claim that he was embarrassed over two "Valor" pins he was not authorized to wear.

Former CNO Admiral Elmo Zumwalt said on the May 17 Larry King Live show that Admiral Boorda was not only authorized to wear the "V" on his medals, but that had personally authorized him to do so when he was serving as Commander Naval Forces Vietnam.

When it turned out that Boorda was entitled to those decorations, blame shifted to stresses over the Clinton down sizing of the Navy, and even (Washington Times) the adverse affect that feminism was having on the Navy's morale.

Boorda supposedly left two suicide notes, neither of which was released.

On Thursday, June 25, 1998, Navy Secretary John Dalton formally acknowledged that Boorda had been entitled to wear the decorations.

So, like Brown, and like Foster, the proximate cause for the "suicide" turns out to be fraudulent.

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Ron Brown

Former Chairman, DNC; Commerce Secretary

Died: May 3, 1996
Ron Brown died along with 39 other people when the T-43 (a converted 737 used by the Air Force) carrying the group on a trip to Bosnia crashed while approaching the Dubrovnik airport. On the verge of being indicted and having stated publicly his willingness to make a deal with prosecutors, Ron Brown's death brought to an end his ability to testify. The very next day, Ron Brown's personal lawyer was murdered in a drive-by shooting. A few days later, the Air Traffic Controller who had been in charge during the aircraft crash was found dead and declared a suicide.
On leaving Ron Brown's funeral, President Bill Clinton was seen laughing and joking ... until he saw the camera, then he went into his sad act!

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James Bunch

Influential Texan

Exact date of death unknown
Died from a gunshot "suicide", similar to Vince Foster. - Was discovered to have a "little black book" containing the names of many influential persons in Texas and Arkansas who visited certain prostitutes.

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Eric Butera

Witness

Died: December 4, 1997
An informant who came forward offering information regarding the murder of White House intern Mary Mahoney. He was then sent into a known crack house to make an undercover buy for the police and was beaten to death. His mother was awarded $100 million in compensation, but a Federal Judge later slashed it to just $1 million.

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Caetano Carani

Witness to a shooting near the White House.

Died: November 11, 1994
Suffered an unknown infection just before he was to testify. Death attributed to "apparent" food poisoning.

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Danny Casolaro

Journalist

Died: August 10, 1991
Casolaro had been working on a project he called "The Octopus." Casolaro had started his investigation over the Justice Department's theft of a software package called PROMIS from a company called Inslaw.

PROMIS stood for "Prosecutors Management Information System" and it was a law enforcement database system that included a feature unique for the time. This was a module that could be programmed to automatically access other databases, in order to present to the user a single picture of financial transactions or suspects from multiple sources. This made it a powerful spying tool, and the US modified their version to include a back door, then made gifts of the software to other governments.

All this was happening at the same time as the CIA's clandestine gun and drug running operation to supply the Nicaraguan Contras with untraceable weapons. A totally illegal operation (which violated the Boland Amendment and the Logan act) the US end of the smuggling pipeline was located in Mena, Arkansas under the protection of then-governor Bill Clinton. The arming of the Contras was funded by smuggling vast quantities of cocaine into the US (a violation of drug laws) and then laundered through various banks, land flips, and a state agency, the Arkansas Development Finance Authority, created by Webster Hubbell and signed into law by Bill Clinton.

The shoot down of one of the CIA planes by Nicaragua and the capture of CIA asset Eugene Hasenfus blew the cover off of the operation and it became known as the Iran-Contra affair. During the Congressional hearings into the scandal, attention was focused on the gun-running, and all mention of the CIA's cocaine flowing into the US was kept from the public eye by the Committee chairman, Hawaii's Senator Daniel Inouye (a fixture in Hawaii going back to the CIA's smuggling of heroin from Vietnam back to the US).

Casolaro apparently stumbled over the existence of a vast network of government operatives and politicians all linked together by the vast wealth acquired from the selling of CIA cocaine in the US and was working on a book exposing the government-sanctioned drug running when he was found in a bathtub in a hotel room, his wrists both deeply slashed in a manner that the pathologist declared did not appear to have been done by Danny himself. In particular, the deep cuts severed the tendons of the fingers, which would have made it impossible for Danny to slash his other wrist with the now useless hand.

Despite this, the official verdict was suicide, although none of Danny's friends and families believed that, especially those who had been direct witnesses to the many death threats he had received.

When found, the large accordion file of the notes for his new book had disappeared from his hotel room.



Read more: THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#ixzz4JjjCim8M
 
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