Hillary Just Made 3 Big Mistakes On National TV

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On NBC's Commander-In-Chief Forum tonight Hillary Clinton committed a series a blunders. Here are 3 obvious ones.

1. Hillary openly proclaimed that in her presidency, US ground troops will never be sent. This is an incredibly obvious mistake. You never tip your hand to your enemy, telling them your strategy or plans. Instead, you should always (as Trump said) be unpredictable. The more predictable you are to the enemy, they more able they are to plan, consolidate their forces, and strengthen in relation to what we do. Hillary, appearing to also try to appease anti-war Democrats, doesn't seem to even know that for quite some time, polls have shown that a majority of Americans SUPPORT US grounds troops being sent to fight ISIS.

2. Matt Lauer mentioned San Bernardino and Boston, both obviously victim cities of Muslim terrorism, and in response, Hillary said she would do everything she could to protect America from this. But she contradicted herself by having just said only a minute earlier, that she would not, under any circumstance, send US ground troops to fight ISIS. She also said nothing to disavow her incredible position to allow 185,000 Syrian refugees into the country, who, FBI Director Comey has said could not be vetted, and ISIS themselves has bragged that they will come into the US with those "refugees" (which is obvious whether ISIS says it or not). How could Hillary do all that's necessary to protect America, when she is on record to allow its greatest threat EVER, to come into the country ?

3. Hillary, incredibly, said that Donald Trump had defamed the gold star father of a fallen soldier, Khizr Khan ? Is Hillary so insulated from events that she doesn't know than Khan was EXPOSED as the phony shill for her, that he is, about a month ago. Who, now well into September, doesn't know that Khan is a longtime Muslim Brotherhood activist and author, has been in cahoots with the Clintons and their "Foundation" since the 90s, and most of all, is an IMMIGRATION LAWYER who represents Muslim immigrants, and therefore has a financial VESTED INTERE$T in Muslim immigration (which Trump has proposed a ban for) - all this while posing as speaking as a grieving gold star father who lost a son in a war.

Actually, Hillary probably said about 10 times as many things as this which were mistakes, but I chose the 3 that were the most glaringly obvious, and 3 is enough to constitute an "unfit to be president" status.
 
Trump affirmed that he thinks he knows more than the generals about ISIS.
 
Jarod said:
Trump affirmed that he thinks he knows more than the generals about ISIS.
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And I affirm it too. As Trump said, it's because Obama is not letting them in on the information he gets from intelligence. And this is consistent with everythng else about how Obama has been mishandling this war (by not fighting it)
 
protectionist said:
And I affirm it too. As Trump said, it's because Obama is not letting them in on the information he gets from intelligence. And this is consistent with everythng else about how Obama has been mishandling this war (by not fighting it)
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You actually believe the CIA persons giving Donald Trump intelligence would make these statements? No wonder you support Trump, you are a fool.
 
Jarod said:
Trump affirmed that he thinks he knows more than the generals about ISIS.
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yep, what else we need to know?? he got this, just tell "his generals" to do this or that or their FIRED!!!

Now that's being a boss!!
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protectionist said:
polls have shown that a majority of Americans SUPPORT US grounds troops being sent to fight ISIS..
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I find that kinda shocking...... The same ppl will be complaining when their neighbor kids come home dead or badly injured..

IMHO the Turks & Arabs have a job to do.......
 
Rana said:
You actually believe the CIA persons giving Donald Trump intelligence would make these statements? No wonder you support Trump, you are a fool.
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Ha ha ha. Anybody that doesn't know the situation of Obama's generals is a fool, or hasn't paid much attention to what's going on. Obama has fired a whole sting of generals since 2011, and the replacement guys don't know anything, because they don't ask questions.

d used only for “his” purposes.

BELOW IS THE DETAIL ON THE 9 COMMANDING GENERALS OBAMA HAS FIRED IN 2013

General Carter Hamm, United States Army-Served as head of the United States African Command. Was in charge of the US African command during the fateful night of September 11, 2012 when the lives of four American citizens was taken in the Embassy in Benghazi. Hamm was extremely critical of our Commander and Chief and stated he lied about not having reinforcements in the area on that night. Hamm “resigned and retired” on April of 2013.

Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette/United States Navy-Commander of Carrier Strike Group Three. His most recent activity served as Deputy Commander of the US Naval Forces, US Central Command. He was in charge of Air Craft Carriers in the Mediterranean Sea the night of September 11, 2012. He testified before the hearing committee and said that there may not have been time to get the flight crews there but left the door open on if told when the events took place if that he could have had the aircraft launched upon cross-examination by Rep. Tray Gowdey. Recently fired from the Administrative post and relieved of Duty by the Obama Administration for “utterance of a racial slur”.

Major General Ralph Baker, United States Army- Major General Baker served as the Commander of the Joint Task Force-Horn at Camp Lamar, Djibouti, Africa. Was also involved in some aspect with the incident September 11, 2012, being under the African Command. Had said he believed attack helicopters could have made it in time. Relieved of command and fired for groping a civilian (no assault charges or sexual misconduct charges filed with JAG)

Brigadier General Bryan Roberts, United States Army-General Roberts took command of Fort Jackson in 2011. Was considered a rising star in his field. He served in Iraq during his service as the Commanding Officer of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, and was the Deputy Commanding General of the United States Army Recruiting Command, Fort Knox, KY. Relieved of Duty and Fired for Adultery. While this is still on the books in the United States Code of Military Justice, it has rarely been used since President Bill Clinton’s indiscretions.

Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant, United States Marine Corps-Director of Strategic Planning and Policy of for the United States Pacific Command and Commander of the aviation wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan. Highly decorated soldier with two Naval and Marine Commendations and two Naval and Marine Good Conduct medals. He also has an Air Medal with a gold star. He served honorably and distinctively. He had asked about supplies to his command. He was one of two commanding officers suddenly relieved of command and fired from the military for failure of proper force protection.

Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus, United States Marine Corps- Regional Commander in the Southwest and I Marine Expeditionary Force (a forward or frontal division) in Afghanistan. Also Highly decorated with a Defense Superior Service Medal, two Legion of Merritt w/Valor, and three Meritorious Service Commendations. Major General C.M.M.Gurganus had questioned the use of Afghanistan patrols along side American patrols after two officers were executed at their desk and a platoon was lead into an ambush on the front lines. Was the other commander relieved of duty for failure of proper force protection.

Lieutenant General David Holmes Huntoon Jr, United States Army-Served as the 58th Superintendent of the United States Military Academy at West Point, NY. He had graduated from the same academy in 1973 and had served in Senior Planning and Education Services through the majority of his career. He was “censored” for “an investigation” into an “improper relationship” according to The Department of Defense. Nothing was released to the nature of the improper relationship. Nothing was even mentioned if an actual investigation even took place.

Vice Admiral Tim Giardina, United States Navy-Deputy Commander of the United States Strategic Command. Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10, where every single one of the 18 Nuclear Submarines with Nuclear Trident Missiles of those three groups were in his command. This commander earned six Legions of Merit, Two Meritorious Service Medals, two Joint Service Commendation Medals, and several other medals, ribbons and decorations in his illustrious career. He was removed from service and fired from the military for the charge of using counterfeit poker chips (not making that up).

Last on the list, Major General Michael Carry, United States Air Force-Commander 20th Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) at three operational wings and served in both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. He was Fired October 11, 2013, for “Personal Misbehavior” is what was told to ABC News. He and Giardina were both the two top Commanders over the United States Nuclear Arsenal before their dismissal within 48 hours of each other.

As ABC News reports, this is an extremely alarming rate and one of the biggest and fastest purges of military personnel ever recorded. It apparently is such a shock at the rate even for a long time veteran of reporting the news as Dianne Sawyer, because at one point she gets heated saying two Commanders of the Nuclear Command.

You don’t put people who are not very intelligent and without a squeaky clean record over that area of the Military. It is enough to make the hardest and staunchest of supporters as the ABC news crew to pause and ask themselves, “what step is he planning?”

 
Bill said:
I find that kinda shocking...... The same ppl will be complaining when their neighbor kids come home dead or badly injured..

IMHO the Turks & Arabs have a job to do.......
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Your humble opinion is not sufficient with respect to US national security. A very common mistake being made right now (especially among liberals) is to underestimate the gravity of the threat that ISIS poses. The fact that ISIS is not a very large and well-equipped military force, does not mean that they are not dangerous. Fact is, even without the far superior miltaries of the Germans and Japs, ISIS is much more dangerous than the Japanese and Germans ever were. The reason for this can be revealed in one word > NUCLEAR. As formidable as the World War II enemies were, they were not a nuclear threat, but ISIS indeed is.

ISIS is very intent on getting their operatives inside the US, and bringing in nuclear bombs to detonate in American cities, in follow up to the "American Hiroshima" plans of Ayman al-Zawahiri (leader of al Qaeda), that have been festering for 10 years, since the death of al Zaraqawi, ex-leader of al Qaeda in Iraq (forerunner of ISIS). All ISIS needs to do is multiply its wealth and expand its connections, and get all of it into the US. This they can easily accomplish with the help of Obama (and Hillary's) insane policy of allowing 185,000 Syrian" "refugees" into the US.

Something as dire and disastrous to US national security is not a thing to be left to "allies" as questionable as the Turks (who won't agree with arming the Iraqi Kurds), and who themselves are steeped in Muslim jihadist ideology, as well as other Arab countries, and Iran, who now is doing much of the fighting against ISIS.

As far as "kids come home dead or badly injured.." Here's a little perspective. In all the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, since 2001, there have been about 6500 Americans killed, over 15 years, in a war that nuclear annihilation of America is the stakes.

In a war where nuclear annihilation of America was not the stakes, 19,000 US troops were killed in ONE MONTH....in ONE SINGLE BATTLE (the Battle of the Bulge), in Belgium, France, & Luxembourg, in 1944. Likewise, in the Battle of Okinawa in 1945, 12,520 US troops were killed in action and over 20,000 died alltogether, in 2.5 months.
 
Bill said:
yep, what else we need to know?? he got this, just tell "his generals" to do this or that or their FIRED!!!

Now that's being a boss!!
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remember when the general in charge of Afghanistan went to Obama and said give me X# of troops and I will win this war.........and Obama said here's half that number and by the way, we're leaving in a year?.........is that telling his generals what to do?......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
remember when the general in charge of Afghanistan went to Obama and said give me X# of troops and I will win this war.........and Obama said here's half that number and by the way, we're leaving in a year?.........is that telling his generals what to do?......
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Yea....and exactly how was any general going to win that war? Under Bush, we went from town to town,bribing the Taliban leaders. As soon as we left, they returned to attacking our soldiers.

There is no winning in Afg. Once we got Bin Laden, we were done. Having troops in Afg is solely for being in close proximity to Pakistan....the real threat to world security
 
protectionist said:
Your humble opinion is not sufficient with respect to US national security. A very common mistake being made right now (especially among liberals) is to underestimate the gravity of the threat that ISIS poses. The fact that ISIS is not a very large and well-equipped military force, does not mean that they are not dangerous. Fact is, even without the far superior miltaries of the Germans and Japs, ISIS is much more dangerous than the Japanese and Germans ever were. The reason for this can be revealed in one word > NUCLEAR. As formidable as the World War II enemies were, they were not a nuclear threat, but ISIS indeed is.

ISIS is very intent on getting their operatives inside the US, and bringing in nuclear bombs to detonate in American cities, in follow up to the "American Hiroshima" plans of Ayman al-Zawahiri (leader of al Qaeda), that have been festering for 10 years, since the death of al Zaraqawi, ex-leader of al Qaeda in Iraq (forerunner of ISIS). All ISIS needs to do is multiply its wealth and expand its connections, and get all of it into the US. This they can easily accomplish with the help of Obama (and Hillary's) insane policy of allowing 185,000 Syrian" "refugees" into the US.

Something as dire and disastrous to US national security is not a thing to be left to "allies" as questionable as the Turks (who won't agree with arming the Iraqi Kurds), and who themselves are steeped in Muslim jihadist ideology, as well as other Arab countries, and Iran, who now is doing much of the fighting against ISIS.

As far as "kids come home dead or badly injured.." Here's a little perspective. In all the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, since 2001, there have been about 6500 Americans killed, over 15 years, in a war that nuclear annihilation of America is the stakes.

In a war where nuclear annihilation of America was not the stakes, 19,000 US troops were killed in ONE MONTH....in ONE SINGLE BATTLE (the Battle of the Bulge), in Belgium, France, & Luxembourg, in 1944. Likewise, in the Battle of Okinawa in 1945, 12,520 US troops were killed in action and over 20,000 died alltogether, in 2.5 months.
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Complete nonsense. Sending troops overseas does nothing to protect our own country from those who choose to join the Jihad. But you just keep telling yourself that more troops will do anything of worth.


How is Trump going to pay for his lavish plans?

Oh,that's right...he never pays for anything.
 
protectionist said:
Ha ha ha. Anybody that doesn't know the situation of Obama's generals is a fool, or hasn't paid much attention to what's going on. Obama has fired a whole sting of generals since 2011, and the replacement guys don't know anything, because they don't ask questions.

d used only for “his” purposes.

BELOW IS THE DETAIL ON THE 9 COMMANDING GENERALS OBAMA HAS FIRED IN 2013

General Carter Hamm, United States Army-Served as head of the United States African Command. Was in charge of the US African command during the fateful night of September 11, 2012 when the lives of four American citizens was taken in the Embassy in Benghazi. Hamm was extremely critical of our Commander and Chief and stated he lied about not having reinforcements in the area on that night. Hamm “resigned and retired” on April of 2013.

Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette/United States Navy-Commander of Carrier Strike Group Three. His most recent activity served as Deputy Commander of the US Naval Forces, US Central Command. He was in charge of Air Craft Carriers in the Mediterranean Sea the night of September 11, 2012. He testified before the hearing committee and said that there may not have been time to get the flight crews there but left the door open on if told when the events took place if that he could have had the aircraft launched upon cross-examination by Rep. Tray Gowdey. Recently fired from the Administrative post and relieved of Duty by the Obama Administration for “utterance of a racial slur”.

Major General Ralph Baker, United States Army- Major General Baker served as the Commander of the Joint Task Force-Horn at Camp Lamar, Djibouti, Africa. Was also involved in some aspect with the incident September 11, 2012, being under the African Command. Had said he believed attack helicopters could have made it in time. Relieved of command and fired for groping a civilian (no assault charges or sexual misconduct charges filed with JAG)

Brigadier General Bryan Roberts, United States Army-General Roberts took command of Fort Jackson in 2011. Was considered a rising star in his field. He served in Iraq during his service as the Commanding Officer of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, and was the Deputy Commanding General of the United States Army Recruiting Command, Fort Knox, KY. Relieved of Duty and Fired for Adultery. While this is still on the books in the United States Code of Military Justice, it has rarely been used since President Bill Clinton’s indiscretions.

Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant, United States Marine Corps-Director of Strategic Planning and Policy of for the United States Pacific Command and Commander of the aviation wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan. Highly decorated soldier with two Naval and Marine Commendations and two Naval and Marine Good Conduct medals. He also has an Air Medal with a gold star. He served honorably and distinctively. He had asked about supplies to his command. He was one of two commanding officers suddenly relieved of command and fired from the military for failure of proper force protection.

Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus, United States Marine Corps- Regional Commander in the Southwest and I Marine Expeditionary Force (a forward or frontal division) in Afghanistan. Also Highly decorated with a Defense Superior Service Medal, two Legion of Merritt w/Valor, and three Meritorious Service Commendations. Major General C.M.M.Gurganus had questioned the use of Afghanistan patrols along side American patrols after two officers were executed at their desk and a platoon was lead into an ambush on the front lines. Was the other commander relieved of duty for failure of proper force protection.

Lieutenant General David Holmes Huntoon Jr, United States Army-Served as the 58th Superintendent of the United States Military Academy at West Point, NY. He had graduated from the same academy in 1973 and had served in Senior Planning and Education Services through the majority of his career. He was “censored” for “an investigation” into an “improper relationship” according to The Department of Defense. Nothing was released to the nature of the improper relationship. Nothing was even mentioned if an actual investigation even took place.

Vice Admiral Tim Giardina, United States Navy-Deputy Commander of the United States Strategic Command. Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10, where every single one of the 18 Nuclear Submarines with Nuclear Trident Missiles of those three groups were in his command. This commander earned six Legions of Merit, Two Meritorious Service Medals, two Joint Service Commendation Medals, and several other medals, ribbons and decorations in his illustrious career. He was removed from service and fired from the military for the charge of using counterfeit poker chips (not making that up).

Last on the list, Major General Michael Carry, United States Air Force-Commander 20th Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) at three operational wings and served in both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. He was Fired October 11, 2013, for “Personal Misbehavior” is what was told to ABC News. He and Giardina were both the two top Commanders over the United States Nuclear Arsenal before their dismissal within 48 hours of each other.

As ABC News reports, this is an extremely alarming rate and one of the biggest and fastest purges of military personnel ever recorded. It apparently is such a shock at the rate even for a long time veteran of reporting the news as Dianne Sawyer, because at one point she gets heated saying two Commanders of the Nuclear Command.

You don’t put people who are not very intelligent and without a squeaky clean record over that area of the Military. It is enough to make the hardest and staunchest of supporters as the ABC news crew to pause and ask themselves, “what step is he planning?”

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What does this long screed have to do with my statement? My statement still stands, the CIA briefer did not tell Trump what he claimed they did, he is a liar.
 
Trump has everyone brainwashed on "giving away plans."

Saying you're not going to send troops isn't giving anything away. Trump is dumbing everyone down.
 
Althea said:
Yea....and exactly how was any general going to win that war?
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as I recall, the term used was "surge"......its a procedure that was used successfully in Iraq.....you remember the surge, right....

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Thursday that the escalation of U.S. troops in Iraq, which he had opposed, has succeeded in reducing violence "beyond our wildest dreams."
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http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26550764/ns/politics-decision_08/t/iraqi-surge-exceeded-expectations-obama-says/#.V9HuQZgrI_4
 
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