Tim Kaine Denies Existence Of Sanctuary Cities
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Maybe you should find something outside your echo chamber of disingenuous sources which keep you a low information voter.
Again, there is no sanctuary from federal law and so your "City of Sanctuary from the EPA" would be a phantom. Certainly, a city in West Virginia may choose not to make the EPA's rules an enforcement priority.
So not only are you low information you are also quite dense.
Again, there is no sanctuary from Federal law. You are pursuing a phantom or a figment of your imagination/ignorance. Kaine's answer may have went over your head but it is accurate.
you are relying on an extreme narrow legal definition. I am relying on the practicality of extant circumstances.
Which one of us is dense in terms of refusal to see things as they are?
You can say it over and over -but it doesn't mitigate cities removing themselves from federal law -creating a "sanctuary" (sic)
from ICE detainers. Federal law is supreme on immigration
No. The federal supremacy clause is not narrow at all.
You are relying on misinformation and lies.
There is your phantom. They have not removed themselves from Federal law any more than Tampa or many other cities did when they decriminalized marijuana.
Yes, it is supreme and it remains supreme in the so called "sanctuary" cities. That was Kaine's point.
Darth Omar
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Sweet! Now WV can chose not to make EPA mining regulations an enforcement priority lol.
Yes, they can. I seriously doubt they enforce EPA mining regulations. I have never heard of a police officer arresting anyone for that sort of thing (maybe they do, but it's likely very rare). Maybe the state and local versions of the EPA do.
You are an ignorant fool.
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Legion Troll
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Poor Darthy.
Darth Omar
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Groups first filed formal petitions with EPA regarding West Virginia and Kentucky nearly five years ago, which requested the agency revoke the two states' authority to implement the Clean Water Act. In exchange, the petitions suggested EPA should take over such authority in those states.
http://www.statejournal.com/story/2...-push-epa-to-enforce-clean-water-act-in-ky-wv
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It pays to do a little research before calling someone a fool. Unless you want to come off looking like one yourself lol.
So, not enforcing federal laws is only a bad thing when it involves the environment. Are you duplicitous about anything else?
Damn, you are stupid.
This is a request for the federal government to take over enforcement of environmental regulations in WV and Ky. The federal government certainly can enforce immigration laws in every city in this country. That is why the so called "Sanctuary City" is a phantom. The feds simply cannot set the enforcement priorities of local governments.
Legion Troll
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Poor Darthy.
did I not say "federal law is supreme" on immigration?
your position is absurd. are you denying that hundreds of cities in the US ignore ICE detainers at will?
states decriminalize by statute -cities do so by non-enforcement-but are subject to state sanctions if imposed.
State decriminalization is dependent on the USDA's memo of understanding from DoJ .
The Ogden memo is a good ex of a memoranda written by Doj for the US District Attorneys.
MEMORANDUM FOR SELECTED UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS
FROM: David W. Ogden, Deputy Attorney General
SUBJECT: Investigations and Prosecutions in States Authorizing the Medical Use of Marijuana
https://www.justice.gov/opa/blog/me...orneys-investigations-and-prosecutions-states
In that case both the DoJ and states were in some accord not to prosecute medical marijuana.
But there is no such memo in force by the Obama adm on sanctuary cities.
There is simply no consequences for cities now - yet they are in violation without even a memo (prosecutorial discretion)
What Trump is saying is there will be no such understanding going forward, if he was elected.
I have no idea what Kaine is saying as his message is garbled
Legion Troll
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I heard a rumor that Anatta telemarkets for Trump.
But you don't seem to understand what that means. It means that federal law still applies in so called sanctuary cities.
No. They can't be forced to use their resources to enforce the Federal governments priorities.
Huh? The Ogden memo has no effect on city or state governments. It explained the Federal government's enforcement priorities to agents of the Federal government not to anyone at the state level. It stated that they would continue to enforce laws against medical marijuana, in certain circumstances. It did not say that the states/cities must continue to enforce laws against medical marijuana or give them leave from that.
Obama did change enforcement priorities on immigration but that has nothing to do with the cities and they certainly do not need his approval.
Trump/The President is impotent in this matter.
I am sure. You need the third grade language of Trump.
Legion Troll
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Poor Anatta.