Can Donald Trump win? YES

Jarod said:
Pay to play is and has been the norm for 100's of years. You don't think Trump has been as involved as Clinton?? At least with Clinton the profits go to charity instead of Trumps pockets.
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of course Trump hasn't been involved........he's never been a politician.......in case you're getting into this late, the fact he's never been a politician is WHY he's where he is today.......but you go ahead and vote for what you want to keep as the norm.......
 
Jarod said:
The line is murky, but even if its two different things, I think Trump is as culpable as Clinton. At least with Clinton a lot of it goes to charity, with Trump it almost all goes to his pocket.
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I think it is amazing that you were able to pass the bar yet you are stupid enough to believe that Clinton's slush fund goes to charity......
 
Thing1 said:
That's some interesting spin. Sort of par for the course.

He's really no more in control of the #'s than Hillary. If anything, what we're seeing is to Hillary's advantage. But candidates are viewed negatively, but Hillary has shown in poll after poll that she has a higher ceiling than Trump.

I don't think any amount of "getting his act together" will help Trump at this point. He has alienated so many demographics, and as many people have made up their mind about him as Hillary.
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how's her double digit bump holding out, Thingie?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
of course Trump hasn't been involved........he's never been a politician.......in case you're getting into this late, the fact he's never been a politician is WHY he's where he is today.......but you go ahead and vote for what you want to keep as the norm.......
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Would you say that large campaign donations to Hillary and Rahm is not being involved? :cof1:
 
Celticguy said:
Black support for trump up 6x. A whisker under 15%.
Yowzer !
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If Trump scores 15% of the black vote it's all over lol. I doubt that he will but you never know.

The conventional 'wisdom' is that Trump needs 25% for a landslide, which ain't gonna happen. But I think he'd win big with 15% of the black vote.

Here's why: that number would say you something. It would be a serious erosion of black support for Hillary. It would mean for every black vote Trump picked up, two or three would stay at home as disaffected voters. One of the unknown variables in the polls is turnout. It's one thing to chat with a pollster and another thing to actually get in the car and go stand in line to vote.

For the life of me I can't imagine what black voters see in Hillary Clinton. Maybe Trump can't either, because he's been hammering on the 'what have you got show for voting democrat all these decades' theme.

It's risky because there's a chance the crowd could be thin [which the media will just happen to notice lol], but I think Trump needs to go into an urban area and talk directly to a black audience.

It's a gambit but it could win him the election.
 
in Detroit today Trump challenges black voters to give him a shot........says look at what the Dems have done for you......what the hell do you have to lose?.......
 
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