Media and Justice are incompatable....

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Every time a David Duke or some other marginal Klan-connected or neo-Nazi lowlife crawls out from under a rock and gratuitously endorses Donald Trump (or anyone else, particularly a Republican or a conservative), the mainstream media call breathless attention to the news. They further demand that Mr. Trump or the other endorsee renounce the unsolicited and unwanted endorsement.

It’s a brilliant stratagem by the media. There is an inexhaustible supply of otherwise ignored extremists who rise to the bait: Endorsing Donald Trump or a respectable Republican or conservative is the one sure way for a bigot or an extremist to get a minute’s worth of air time and six inches of ink.

It also has the effect of tainting the supposedly supported candidate by association and advances the meme that Mr. Trump, the Republican Party or the conservative movement somehow makes it safe for racists, anti-Semites and bigots of all stripes to strut their stuff among decent people.

But when the father of the homosexual-hating jihadi who killed 49 people at a nightclub in Orlando showed up at a Clinton rally, applauded the Democratic presidential nominee and her campaign, the media played it quite differently. Hillary Clinton responded to questions not by repudiating the endorsement or the father’s suggestion that it was actually unnecessary for his son to kill the gays he targeted because Allah himself would have taken care of them in due time, but by saying merely that the campaign neither invited him nor knew he would be at the rally. Somehow, that was deemed an adequate response.

And now, a left-wing David Duke of the most extreme variety has endorsed Mrs. Clinton. Yet it has neither raised the hackles of the media nor resulted in demands that her campaign explain or denounce the endorsement. Her endorser is no less a figure than the chairman of the Communist Party of the United States.

That would be John Bachtell, the top leader of a vestigial branch of one of the greatest tyrannies in human history. The Communist Party has never disavowed the cause that led directly and intentionally to millions of deaths. American Communists do not hang their heads in shame because they have advocated ideas — such as “equality” as supreme among human values, the rightful place of the state in command of all human activity, and the legitimacy of brute force in silencing opponents and seizing the levers of power — that have led to more misery for more people in more places than any other totalitarian movement in history. This is the man who has taken to the official organ of the Communist Party to urge Communists to fight Mr. Trump and to elect Mrs. Clinton.

Where are the reports about how Communists — real, live, unrepentant, Marxist-Leninist, card-carrying Communists — see support for, and the election of, Hillary Clinton as the next step in their path to power in America? Just askin’.

If there weren’t a double standard afflicting the mainstream media, those reports would be fed to us right along with the latest blather from and about the wicked, toothless and irrelevant David Duke. Neither Grand Wizard Duke nor Comrade Bachtell is of any real moment in 21st century America, but you would think that the grand wizard’s endorsement means that Mr. Trump either supports or condones his insanity while the commissar is just a harmless eccentric about whom Mrs. Clinton shouldn’t be bothered.

This would be funny except that it illustrates in the starkest terms the degree to which the mainstream media have managed to dedicate themselves to the defeat of a major party candidate and his party. In the past, the media have denied charges from the right that their coverage is biased. No longer. In the Brave New World in which we find ourselves, The New York Times not only defends biased coverage of Mr. Trump, his views and his campaign, but actually attempts to justify it on moral grounds, arguing that journalists have an obligation to do all in their power to deny political victory to those they believe would be bad for the country. We’ve been complaining for years that opinion has been leaking into the news sections of the nation’s papers; now The New York Times is not only willing to admit we were right, but argues that journalists have an obligation to vent their feelings as long as they are strongly held as part of the news.

And in virtually the same breath defenders of the major media suggest the average American can neither trust nor believe what he or she reads in the newspapers or sees on the evening news. No wonder.

Appalled by The New York Times’ defense of ideologically driven “journalism,” media critic Howard Kurtz this week wrote, “The media’s legions of Trump-bashers are finally acknowledging the obvious. And trying their best to justify it. But there’s one problem: Tilting against one candidate in a presidential election can’t be justified.”

It’s not just our political house that’s a shambles. American journalism needs to put its house in order, too.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/11/journalisms-double-standard-covering-hillary-clint/
 
Trump created the Duke story. He hemmed & hawed about disavowing the endorsement & Duke, and said he didn't know who Duke was.

This wasn't on the media. If Trump just disassociated himself from the get go, it never would have been a story.
 
Duke?

Why didn't he say he didn't know who Duke was?

The only thing I can guess is, he is horrible with words. I have listened to him say the same thing about a half a dozen people, all of whom he "knew about". I think he actually meant he doesn't personally know him.

That is the only guess I have.
 
Duke?

Why didn't he say he didn't know who Duke was?

Larry King asked the Don on Nov 19, 1991 about the majority of white Louisiana voters voting for David Duke.
I hate seeing what it represents, but I guess it just shows there’s a lot of hostility in this country. There’s a tremendous amount of hostility in the United States. It’s anger. I mean, that’s an anger vote. People are angry about what’s happened. People are angry about the jobs. If you look at Louisiana, they’re really in deep trouble.

In Feb, 2000, the NY Times quoted the Don-
The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep.

On Feb 14, 2000, during a Matt Lauer interview, the Don said-
Well, you’ve got David Duke just joined — a bigot, a racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.


But, on Feb 28, 2016 the Don now says-
Just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke, OK? I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. So I don't know. I don't know -- did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke; I know nothing about white supremacists.
 
I guess Mogur just proved Trump is not a racist.

I actually don't think Trump is a racist in the strict sense. I definitely think he has a lesser view of women. I also think he has prejudice against certain nationalities and religions. I think a lot of his rhetoric appeals to racists.

But he really created this firestorm w/ his initial response to it. We'll never know, but I think at that time in the campaign, he knew who the main part of his base was, and was vague about Duke on purpose.
 
I guess Mogur just proved Trump is not a racist.

No, my feathered friend, I simply proved that he is a liar. And that by lying about knowing anything about David Duke and white supremacy, he is tacitly approving of that support. Dog whistling does not prove he is a racist, but it sure as hell proves that he is willing to befriend the racists, by lying about his earlier disapproval.
 
No, my feathered friend, I simply proved that he is a liar. And that by lying about knowing anything about David Duke and white supremacy, he is tacitly approving of that support. Dog whistling does not prove he is a racist, but it sure as hell proves that he is willing to befriend the racists, by lying about his earlier disapproval.
All his quotes against him and white supremacy means he is a racist.

Yeah, go with that.

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I actually don't think Trump is a racist in the strict sense. I definitely think he has a lesser view of women. I also think he has prejudice against certain nationalities and religions. I think a lot of his rhetoric appeals to racists.

But he really created this firestorm w/ his initial response to it. We'll never know, but I think at that time in the campaign, he knew who the main part of his base was, and was vague about Duke on purpose.

I agree with you especially about Trump and women. He always denigrates them, mostly their looks, often their brains.
 
All his quotes against him and white supremacy means he is a racist.

Yeah, go with that.

What fucking posts are you reading? I didn't call him a racist. I said that he was willing to tacitly accept racist support. I even went further and said, "Dog whistling does not prove he is a racist,". His quotes over the years only prove that he is now lying. Or, maybe he simply wakes up each morning, like a goose, and doesn't remember anything previous. Lying doesn't disqualify him from becoming a president, god knows, but being a goose surely should.
 
Every time a David Duke or some other marginal Klan-connected or neo-Nazi lowlife crawls out from under a rock and gratuitously endorses Donald Trump (or anyone else, particularly a Republican or a conservative), the mainstream media call breathless attention to the news. They further demand that Mr. Trump or the other endorsee renounce the unsolicited and unwanted endorsement.
It's the media's fault:palm:

Certainly couldn't be that those kinda folks like what he says or that he panders to that kinda ilk?? NO, certainly not..

They demand?? lol

& he can refuse can't he??

No one is forcing him, hell, his own campaign can't tell that fool what to do, eventhough he is paying them to guide him & it is in his own interest to listen..

He aint PC remember, he does things his own way, or no way @ all....
 
If your posts don't prove he is not a racist, then what?

Geez, really? LYING! Saying that he disapproves of Duke and white supremacy does not prove he ISN'T a racist. Subsequently contradicting what he said earlier proves that he is LYING. None of his statements can be believed. Neither the current version where he knows nothing about Duke et al, nor the previous versions where he disapproved of Duke et al for their racism. Get it?
 
I actually don't think Trump is a racist in the strict sense. I definitely think he has a lesser view of women. I also think he has prejudice against certain nationalities and religions. I think a lot of his rhetoric appeals to racists.

But he really created this firestorm w/ his initial response to it. We'll never know, but I think at that time in the campaign, he knew who the main part of his base was, and was vague about Duke on purpose.

Probably all of us on this site can truthfully say "I don't know Duke"....we know about him, whats been said about him, know what he been accused of....etc...but we don't know him....

Everyone THINKS they know Trump....what he will or will not do.....how he will or will not act....what he will or will say....

They think,,,,they don't know...they just listen to the media and grab the opinion that is being put forth if it fits their personal agenda....and nothing is going to change their
out looks on politics...that kind of change takes years and it takes an open mind, a person willing to see issues thru other eyes........

We might want to face for real, what we KNOW about Trump and Hillary that can actually/probably be the truth as proven with the facts we know about each of them, and certainly not what other peoples opinions of them are....

Seem like everyone is afraid of what they imagine Trump might or might not do, conjecture........I'm afraid of I KNOW Hillary will do by her previous actions and inaction, and
LIES........
 
Quote Originally Posted by Seahawk:
If your posts don't prove he is not a racist, then what?

I answered you by saying that it proves only that Drumpf is lying when he said he knew nothing about Duke.

You responded to that by claiming my response made no sense.

You are either baiting me, or a goose. Make sense of THAT.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Seahawk:


I answered you by saying that it proves only that Drumpf is lying when he said he knew nothing about Duke.

You responded to that by claiming my response made no sense.

You are either baiting me, or a goose. Make sense of THAT.
Do you drunk post?

BTW, I think you're a chill dude.

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